Instead of arguing the merits of the referendum proposal, the case for the ‘yes’ campaign is increasingly defined by its outright contempt for, and disparagement of, those outside their camp. Their rancour is directed not only at those arguing the case for the negative, but also the undecided. Witness for example UNSW law professor, Uluru Dialogue leader, and Indigenous woman Megan Davis who last month attacked universities for not collectively backing the voice.

“Silence is political,” she said, declaring the universities’ decision not to take a joint stand amounted to “false objectivity”. No doubt anthropology professor, fellow Indigenous woman, and Referendum Working Group member Marcia Langton would agree. Last week she attacked conservatives who warned that extending the voice mandate to executive decision-making would result in government hamstrung by litigious activism. “Their argument reeks of subconscious racism,” decreed Langton.

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the voice, if realised, will be a boon for Indigenous activists and their Labor/Greens supporters. They, in conjunction with a sympathetic commentariat, will noisily hold that legislation which does not bear the voice’s imprimatur is morally illegitimate. Primarily, it will be used to frustrate and undermine a conservative government. Its influence would be manifestly disproportionate. To argue that notion is racist is a lazy slur.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/australians-are-against-the-voice-no...

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:51am:


Cease lying. Keating made no Anti Semitic comments like you have (under that particular multi troll id of yours which has now been duly reported to the regulator and other agencies). God knows I’ve taken enough screenshots over time on the ridiculous baseless lies you’ve posted.

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:57am:



Er....the spooks to whom you are appealing for support  at ASPI and ASIO etc certainly don't like what Keating is saying about "national defence" eg,  Keating's point about Labor confusing foreign affairs and defence.

But as for 'anti-semitism': I have pointed to the difference between hating Jews, and hating the oppression of Palestinians by the Israeli state.

Were you too taken aback to learn not everyone is in favour of amending the constitution to provide for a so-called Indigenous voice to parliament and government? It certainly was a shock to associate professor Alexandra Wake of RMIT’s School of Media and Communication, who last week officiated at ABC RN presenter Patricia Karvelas’s inaugural address following her appointment as honorary professor.

“I just thought that everyone would be voting for the voice,” said Wake, a former ABC reporter who has taught journalism at RMIT and Deakin University. “I can’t even understand why there is a debate, and yet now there is so many different sides to that and it is starting to get nasty in some quarters.”
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/australians-are-against-the-voice-no...


Former ABC journalist turned journalism academic - hitting every 'stupid' button.  CANNOT imagine that not everyone thinks like her and her colleagues.

Maybe we could put the Abos to work building nuclear subs..... get their skills to work .. they could show us how it's done.... like bushfire management and land management and seasons management .....

You Do realise that the Rainbow Serpent was an allegory for the first submarine, don't you?

Anyway, for dorks like Keating - the Astutes are ATTACK submarines, not 'Boomers' - they are intended to attack enemy shipping, not fire missiles at their homeland.

Keating needs to quietly disappear... and STFU.

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 9:52am:

Amazing how deplorable RW ideology renders its supporters unable to engage in reasoned debate.

1. You said you have alerted  Oz's 'security'  spooks who you claim are following my "disturbed posts".

I said Keating was now getting the same push back from Oz security spooks and deplorable RW media.

2.  You are accusing me of antisemtism: which I refuted in my 2nd point:  I have pointed to the difference between hating Jews, and hating the oppression of Palestinians by the Israeli state.

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Correct, as repeated above.

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ie part of the discussion, correct.

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Hey ...you sought FD ...and Oz 'security' spooks ("agents") for support. 

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No; my reference to Keating was obviously in relation to Keating's views  (with which I agree) in the current AUKUS controversy and its implications re national 'defence' (ie,  paranoid security spooks' bs).

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That's right , because your simple 'deplorables' mind isn't capable of connecting the dots re spooks, Keating on 'defence', and the difference between anti semitism and hatred of Israeli oppression Palestinians.   

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The last sentence is correct, the rest is  bs as noted above; I made no comment about Keating's views on Israel; my purpose was to align myself with Keating's contempt for paranoid Oz spooks and their "China threat" theory, because you were somehow trying to impress me that you were having my posts followed by various Oz spooks. 

(Interestingly, speaking of spooks AND Israel: one of Labor's other visionary leaders, Doc Evatt, who in 1946 proposed a UNSC without member veto powers, also - in 1947 - supported the creation of a state for Jews).   

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Don't blame me for your simple-minded inability to join the dots. We were discussing many issues related to, and deriving from, the debate re the referendum....

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Please quote one post.... just ONE point will do, and I will disabuse you of your confusion/ideological blindness  re same. 

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I'm too busy to think about a shrink (and that particular  'science' is still in its infancy anyway..)

As for "lack of empathy", the RW only have empathy for themselves and supporters of their own self-interested ideology. That's why their motto is  "freedom or death", rather than "universal  collective wellbeing".

Gnads wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 10:25am:
 

Here we go, more ideologically-blinded comments from a RW deplorable.   As Keating says, China has no plans to impose its system on anyone, only to resist encirclement by the self-elected global policeman, the US. 

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You own RW paranoia about self defense informs your views (fortunately Howard took guns out of RW gun-loving hands)

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Because any pretence about free competition in global markets is now tossed over board by the US, in favour of maintaining US global hegemony.

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It takes a hypocrite to recognize one...The paranoid US and its allies are containing China at its borders, not the reverse.

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 2:09pm:


... and  in the 78 pages there aren't any better arguments for the Yes case than the bilge and mindless drivel you have just posted.