Gnads wrote on Apr 10^th, 2023 at 7:56pm:


Yes, a Constitutional voice is divisive.

Whereas legislation to eradicate systemic poverty and welfare dependency is not...unless you have an objection to such legislation..... 

Gnads wrote on Apr 11^th, 2023 at 1:55pm:


That's not debate.

Try this:

https://www.caritas.org.au/global-issues/poverty/?utm_campaign=AO_2022_DIGI_Glob...

The causes of poverty are complex, and interlinked. Historical circumstances, like conflict and wars can create poverty, but even during adverse world events, certain groups of people are more likely to face challenges than others.

Historical events alone do not provide a full explanation. Ethnicity, gender, age, economics, social systems and cultural attitudes all play a part.

On top of these ‘man-made’ differences, geographic location also matters. Where you live in the world, and whether or not that place is prone to extreme weather events – earthquakes, tsunamis, typhoons, droughts, even climate change – can have a huge influence on whether or not you experience poverty.

Main Causes: Factors that entrench poverty

Most of the time, it is a combination of factors that creates poverty, almost all of which are outside of any one individual’s – or even a community’s – control. The important thing to remember is that poverty is not a choice.

It would be impossible to list all the causes and factors that keep poverty alive in our world. Below, you can see some of the causes..."

So...you object to legislation eradicating poverty?

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 11^th, 2023 at 2:29pm:


Not "force", remember: poverty is not  choice; hopefully you read the link in my previous post.

Now, education of some of the cultural warriors is required, to teach them an obsolete h-g culture cannot exist in the modern world.  Using the 'carrot' of a meaningful above poverty lifestyle, to 'entice', not force them into a job...

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Indeed, the obligation to engage in gainful employment.

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"never" is a long time....

In the 21st century, remote Aboriginal disadvantage is due largely to remote Aboriginal behaviour around, alcohol, child neglect, delinquency, violence, drugs. Any Aboriginal Voice should speak to Aborigines engaging in such behaviour, and their elders and leaders.
Speaking to parliament, to government, to Leeser, Craven, Albanese or Dutton is barking up the wrong tree.

I know an Aborigine Farmer who would say that his 'land' does the talking for him. Not Politics.

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 11^th, 2023 at 3:49pm:


Yeah, these guys are crying out for work. "GISSA JOB" they are shouting every day from non, when the bottle-o opens.





Truth telling

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 13^th, 2023 at 9:57am:



I do not buy that sob story for one minute. No welfare dependency MAKES people treat each other, their women and children, the way some of these remote Aborigines do.
People depend on welfare because they make themselves dependent. People drink and beat up their families when they are not neglecting them because they chose to do so. Nobody could force me to behave like that, welfare or no welfare.

It's only an option, an easy option, not a compulsion or a forced imposition. They are not bloody Russian serfs tide to the estate, forbidden to to make a life for themselves. It's their culture and their personal choices to adhere to it, with the aiding and abetting of idiotic progressive bureaucrats, that makes them settle into self-destructive "sloth and heathen folly".