UnSubRocky wrote on May 29
th, 2023 at 3:54pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 28
th, 2023 at 1:13pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 28
th, 2023 at 10:56am:
No. It was because you did not make a direct response to what I wrote.
I did, by pointing out your response is ineligible, owing to your
blind self-interested ideology Your response was to imply that a 17 year old girl...etc
No, my response indicates you are blinded by your own conservarive ideology which is the reason why you don't understand
macro-economics. Pity.
Quote: The subject of indigenous people receiving exclusive benefits is not irrelevant.
Indeed, but they only "receive exclusive benefits" because they are the most unemployed people in Oz, a point you refuse to acknowledge, or simply blame the blacks themselves for what is a macroeconomic problem.
Quote:Or cut the benefits of those that do not participate in job search/training with job network organisations, without having a sufficient excuse. "Being aboriginal" is not an excuse.
It is an "excuse" when peple are not - as a matter of law - either provided with paid training, or paid employment.
Simple.
Quote:I have the DVD of "High Ground" sitting in the DVD rack of this room......But, that was 100 years ago. There is no relevance of that to indigenous people today. They did not witness that kind of thing.
There is a powerful scene in the film when a black elder is debating "law and justice" with a senior British law officer (through a translator), re who has 'sovereignty' over the land in which they are debating....in central NT... Guess who looked liked the usurper of 'sovereigty' in that place...does law come 'from the land', or 'from the King of England'?
Quote:Geez-Louise... you were so sympathetic to the characterisation portrayed by the actors that you want to vote "yes" because Western culture is not all that advanced, compared to ancient cultures?
Correct: we are still killing children in wars, because the UN was neutered by blind men demanding
individual sovereignty (and absolute national sovereignty), hence the incapacitating veto in the so-called "Security" Council.
Quote:I might have to rewatch "High Ground" tonight. Perhaps you could avail yourself of the movie "Sweet Country" to trigger your empathy for the Stolen Generations, too?
Already watched "Rabbit Proof Fence', same topic.
The social and economic problems of half casts were tricky in those days; and indeed we are still faced with finding better solutions re family dysfunction (and child removals) related to incompatible cultures, to close the gap.
Quote:It won't be the "no" group that deserves the civil war, no matter how the vote turns out.
We will all deserve the civil war if it happens, for failing to solve the
problem of black poverty in particular (though all poverty should be condemned by the entire population, in this 'rich' country).
Quote: Australians have been fighting to bring about peace, either internationally or domestically.
That's your ideological blindness speaking; Australians are committed to US global hegemony, not peace under international law.
Quote:At no point did I ever say that the government could guarantee everyone work.[/qquote]
Indeed, and that is your blindness (re economic orthodoxy): government CAN guarantee everyone work ((and paid training), though the current neoliberal small govt. ideology denies it.
[quote]Cut benefits to people that are capable of working but refuse to at least do job training/study.
Everyone is capable of some type of work and training, and if not living in dysfuntional circumstances, will glady take the opportunity if offered.
Quote:I am trying to *voice* my opinion that there should be equal welfare opportunities available to all eligible recipients, irrespective of race.
Welfare should not exist; paid training resulting in jobs should be the norm.
Quote:"Special privileges" available to indigenous people exclusively is indicative of successive federal governments trying to bury the problems of indigenous self-inflicted destitution.
That paragraph is correct if you replace 'self-inflicted' with 'systemic', ie caused by the current neoliberal/ 'small government' economic orthodoxy. I expect you, being ideologically blind, won't see it.
Quote:What are you doing trying to dictate terms on social media of how the voice gets approved? Hypocritical.
No, I am trying to educate you to understand your blindness - a difficult task. Indeed the voice debate is a diversion resulting from the nation failing to face the
real problem of entrenched poverty, in a rich country.
Quote:*I* think that a lot of things could be bought if we saved on the $30 billion given to the aboriginal industry.
Note: there are
sufficient resources in Oz to ensure the training and employment of ALL Australians.
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