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Reply #255 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 1:54pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 12:24pm:

only a theory to validate the dumb ..... like the faggots saying anyone who opposes their silly claims to 'rights' is a closet gay ..... LMFHO.....

You obsessed with gays again; but surely not 'closet gay' but 'homophobic bastard'?

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never been my thing ... a man has to do what a man has to do, and so does an Abo ....

Certainly not your thing to think; just to get out there and compete for a job, ignoring the fact unemployment is built into the system (to control inflation, see NAIRU).

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..... irrelevant... we are talking about the Ning Nang Nong livers - no unemployed Other can move to the Nong and get paid social security........

wrong again, we are talking about the permanent pool of involuntarily unemployed workers , in the current economic system.

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......some play school before they went faggot on us all... brought in the TrannyPlay to not indoctrinate little kids into false belief systems...

"faggots and trannies"...beloved by the right to serve as diversions from the vicious 'survival of the fittest' economic competition which favours the greediest money-lovers.

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Reply #256 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 2:36pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 1:54pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 12:24pm:

only a theory to validate the dumb ..... like the faggots saying anyone who opposes their silly claims to 'rights' is a closet gay ..... LMFHO.....

You obsessed with gays again; but surely not 'closet gay' but 'homophobic bastard'?

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never been my thing ... a man has to do what a man has to do, and so does an Abo ....

Certainly not your thing to think; just to get out there and compete for a job, ignoring the fact unemployment is built into the system (to control inflation, see NAIRU).

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..... irrelevant... we are talking about the Ning Nang Nong livers - no unemployed Other can move to the Nong and get paid social security........

wrong again, we are talking about the permanent pool of involuntarily unemployed workers , in the current economic system.

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......some play school before they went faggot on us all... brought in the TrannyPlay to not indoctrinate little kids into false belief systems...

"faggots and trannies"...beloved by the right to serve as diversions from the vicious 'survival of the fittest' economic competition which favours the greediest money-lovers.

We prefer the term Non-Aligned Homophobic (NAH) Bastard... no obsession here - just a never-ending refusal to allow all these oddball groups into the castle....

(Igor - prepare the boiling oil! .... All ready already, Master....)

So discussion of an Aboriginal voice now involves every unemployed person in Australia? You do try to spread a wide net, don't you? We're talking about ABOS here - not the unemployed... you are obsessed with your ideological stance ..... Grin

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Reply #257 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 5:38pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 2:36pm:

We prefer the term Non-Aligned Homophobic (NAH) Bastard... no obsession here - just a never-ending refusal to allow all these oddball groups into the castle....

like I said, a diversion of the Right (identity politics on the Right) , to avoid looking at a dysfunctional economic system which nevertheless serves their own comfortable asses well enough ..and you are not even aware of it.

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So discussion of an Aboriginal voice now involves every unemployed person in Australia?

Not every unemployed person, but every involuntarily long-term unemployed person. c1 million as identified by Pearson.

Meanwhile, note this from the mouth of a Vic. Nat today (while defending the Nats intention to vote no to the voice): "we have a systems problem" re closing the gap.

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You do try to spread a wide net, don't you? We're talking about ABOS here - not the unemployed... you are obsessed with your ideological stance ..

A net holding 1 million people in fact, regardless of race.

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Reply #258 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 5:50pm

Frank wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 10:09am:

Pictured at a ‘right wing’ think tank event. Noel - Given your longer standing relationship with the CIS, their support for your work & your contributions through CIS papers and events are you suggesting you’re caught in a celebrity redneck vortex unable to think for yourself?

Noel has adopted the Job Guarantee policy, as a system to close the gap, after long discussions with Prof Bill Mitchell.
(see youtube video: Noel Pearson interviews Bill Mitchell)

The fact he is photographed here with Price is immaterial to his subsequent "celebrity redneck vortex" comment re people like Pauline Hanson and Price.

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Reply #259 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 6:07pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 5:50pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 10:09am:

Pictured at a ‘right wing’ think tank event. Noel - Given your longer standing relationship with the CIS, their support for your work & your contributions through CIS papers and events are you suggesting you’re caught in a celebrity redneck vortex unable to think for yourself?

Noel has adopted the Job Guarantee policy, as a system to close the gap, after long discussions with Prof Bill Mitchell.
(see youtube video: Noel Pearson interviews Bill Mitchell)

The fact he is photographed here with Price is immaterial to his subsequent "celebrity redneck vortex" comment re people like Pauline Hanson and Price.

An idiotic comment by Pearson. A bit like yours.

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Reply #260 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 8:48pm

Frank wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 6:07pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 5:50pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 10:09am:

Pictured at a ‘right wing’ think tank event. Noel - Given your longer standing relationship with the CIS, their support for your work & your contributions through CIS papers and events are you suggesting you’re caught in a celebrity redneck vortex unable to think for yourself?

Noel has adopted the Job Guarantee policy, as a system to close the gap, after long discussions with Prof Bill Mitchell.
(see youtube video: Noel Pearson interviews Bill Mitchell)

The fact he is photographed here with Price is immaterial to his subsequent "celebrity redneck vortex" comment re people like Pauline Hanson and Price.

An idiotic comment by Pearson. A bit like yours.

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The Job Guarantee isn't an "idiot comment", it's a policy to solve the problem of systemic entrenched unemployment. Please try to engage your brain before responding.

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Reply #261 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 9:01pm

I'm laughing at the pushback your guru J Peterson has created for himself (even if I'm also sick of the ubiquitous "we acknowledge 1st nations' land, etc" refrain):

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/national/jordan-peterson-fumes-at-qantas-over-ind...

""I could really do without the land acknowledgment propaganda delivered to me by a corporate behemoth (QANTAS)," Peterson said.

"I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way. Stick to (1) flying and (2) making money. I don't want or need moral lessons from you or any other corporation."

earning a clever parodied response:

"Stick to (1) Clinical psychology (2) Enlightening your students by reexplaining Jung's ideas, how you once enlightened me. I could really do without the aggressive rhetoric and pushing of a political counter-narrative. And I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way."

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Reply #262 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 9:43pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 9:01pm:

I'm laughing at the pushback your guru J Peterson has created for himself (even if I'm also sick of the ubiquitous "we acknowledge 1st nations' land, etc" refrain):

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/national/jordan-peterson-fumes-at-qantas-over-ind...

""I could really do without the land acknowledgment propaganda delivered to me by a corporate behemoth (QANTAS)," Peterson said.

"I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way. Stick to (1) flying and (2) making money. I don't want or need moral lessons from you or any other corporation."

earning a clever parodied response:

"Stick to (1) Clinical psychology (2) Enlightening your students by reexplaining Jung's ideas, how you once enlightened me. I could really do without the aggressive rhetoric and pushing of a political counter-narrative. And I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way."

Petersen is right. The acknowledgement of country and respect for the totally, utterly USELESS elders is a farce.
Corporations like Qantas are doing the genuflecting to this poo for marketing reasons. Most people a thoroughly sick of it. I know I am.

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Reply #263 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 9:48pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 5:38pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 2:36pm:

We prefer the term Non-Aligned Homophobic (NAH) Bastard... no obsession here - just a never-ending refusal to allow all these oddball groups into the castle....

like I said, a diversion of the Right (identity politics on the Right) , to avoid looking at a dysfunctional economic system which nevertheless serves their own comfortable asses well enough ..and you are not even aware of it.

.. none so blind ...

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So discussion of an Aboriginal voice now involves every unemployed person in Australia?

Not every unemployed person, but every involuntarily long-term unemployed person. c1 million as identified by Pearson.

So now there are classes of unemployed people?

Meanwhile, note this from the mouth of a Vic. Nat today (while defending the Nats intention to vote no to the voice): "we have a systems problem" re closing the gap.

he/she should 'please explain'?

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You do try to spread a wide net, don't you? We're talking about ABOS here - not the unemployed... you are obsessed with your ideological stance ..

A net holding 1 million people in fact, regardless of race.

... the subject here is the mythical Aboriginal voice concept... not unemployment... you are fixated on disadvantage.... you know nothing about it IRL ....

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Reply #264 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 9:49pm

Frank wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 9:43pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 9:01pm:

I'm laughing at the pushback your guru J Peterson has created for himself (even if I'm also sick of the ubiquitous "we acknowledge 1st nations' land, etc" refrain):

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/national/jordan-peterson-fumes-at-qantas-over-ind...

""I could really do without the land acknowledgment propaganda delivered to me by a corporate behemoth (QANTAS)," Peterson said.

"I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way. Stick to (1) flying and (2) making money. I don't want or need moral lessons from you or any other corporation."

earning a clever parodied response:

"Stick to (1) Clinical psychology (2) Enlightening your students by reexplaining Jung's ideas, how you once enlightened me. I could really do without the aggressive rhetoric and pushing of a political counter-narrative. And I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way."

Petersen is right. The acknowledgement of country and respect for the totally, utterly USELESS elders is a farce.
Corporations like Qantas are doing the genuflecting to this poo for marketing reasons. Most people a thoroughly sick of it. I know I am.

The problem for you is most people (65%, according to polls) want to close the gap, and they think - mistakenly - the voice might help.

That's why Peterson is getting strong pushback to his remark.

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Reply #265 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 10:04pm

Very true the comment to Peterson.

"Stick to (1) Clinical psychology (2) Enlightening your students by reexplaining Jung's ideas, how you once enlightened me. I could really do without the aggressive rhetoric and pushing of a political counter-narrative. And I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way."

Outside clinical psychology and Jungian and Nietzschean philosophy, Jordan Peterson is a certifiable nutjob.

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Reply #266 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 10:15pm

Frank wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 9:43pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 9:01pm:

I'm laughing at the pushback your guru J Peterson has created for himself (even if I'm also sick of the ubiquitous "we acknowledge 1st nations' land, etc" refrain):

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/national/jordan-peterson-fumes-at-qantas-over-ind...

""I could really do without the land acknowledgment propaganda delivered to me by a corporate behemoth (QANTAS)," Peterson said.

"I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way. Stick to (1) flying and (2) making money. I don't want or need moral lessons from you or any other corporation."

earning a clever parodied response:

"Stick to (1) Clinical psychology (2) Enlightening your students by reexplaining Jung's ideas, how you once enlightened me. I could really do without the aggressive rhetoric and pushing of a political counter-narrative. And I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way."

Petersen is right. The acknowledgement of country and respect for the totally, utterly USELESS elders is a farce.
Corporations like Qantas are doing the genuflecting to this poo for marketing reasons. Most people a thoroughly sick of it. I know I am.

Yes, but you've been to cities that never close down, old boy. You flew here.

You still call Denmark home, no?

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Reply #268 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 11:30pm

Johnnie wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 10:47pm:

Without anyone being funded by the Commonwealth for the yes or no vote as was the case with the rigged poof vote watch the Boongs pull out limitless funds and anyone else will be called WACISTS

How is it that you manage to post so much absolute rubbish
on this forum Johnnie? Do you ever have something meaningful
to say that may add to topics such as this? Or is puerile racist
or homophobic invective the limit of your mental abilities?

I often picture you as an anti-social, sexually repressed, lonely
little man-child locked up in your mother's basement, seething
with anger at a world you don't understand.

Could this be our very own Johnnie

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 84523 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum Reply #269 - Dec 1^st, 2022 at 3:50am Being Aboriginal is not a paid job and should not be considered a paid lifestyle........ that's what the voice is really all about.
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