thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 6^th, 2022 at 10:52am:



They survived 40,000 years without government - but now nothin' doin' WITHOUT government????

That's totally stupid, parrot. Totally.

Frank wrote on Dec 6^th, 2022 at 11:07am:

I already explained that to you, dummy: they lived in a (communist!!) money-less hunter gatherer economy.

Whereas govt. must intervene in a money economy, given the widely differing abilities of individuals to compete for "money", in the neoliberal money-based market competition. 

Interestingly, the first permanent outposts on the Moon and Mars will also be money-less economies, in which everyone has a role to play without requirement/expectation for money reward.   

Frank wrote on Dec 6^th, 2022 at 11:28am:


Yes, those black commie idiots.....still thinking they are living in a money-less, h-g economy, 'communist' world.

But once that idiocy is overcome, how are they all going to set up viable private enterprises, freeing them from the disaster of dependency on the welfare bureaucracy? 

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True, all that is needed is black employment -  for all.

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Again true...but we all agree they all need money earned by their own efforts, like all of us. 

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You forgot education as a prime responsibility of government, AND  ensuring the social conditions conducive to education

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The CDEP actually reversed that sad reality while it existed, but CIS ideology goons cancelled the CDEP.

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BOTH personal responsibility AND community responsibility (actioned by government) are needed for individuals to prosper, in our competitive  market economy. 

Frank wrote on Dec 6^th, 2022 at 12:36pm:


A dysfunctional community can't action anything, by definition.

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 6^th, 2022 at 1:17pm:

Well, get functional.

Thing is this - YTF would you give inside running to your parliament (parlous as it is) and every other level of government, to a group whose members continue to entertain such ideas as 'payback', 'their law', their rights to 'do things their way' regardless of consequences to selves and others... and so forth .. as nowhere more clearly evidenced than in the current parlous state of the Northern Territory - where Black politicians are holding far too much power per capita, and suck-holing to Black victimhood is getting way out of control - where obviously the Indigenous do NOT go to schools etc and learn that those days are long gone and they need to see a different way forward, where clearly many just want to pursue a life of crime against White civilisation to try to drive it out but somehow still retain all the benefits - and where obviously they think they have a right to simply demand what they want - even if it is such stupidity as demanding that a police officer acting in self-defence should be punished or 'paid back'.....

Where TF do these people get off with their demands?  And stupid governments are handing them masses of territory for nothing but whining and pursuing terrorism such as at Mt Warning.

Makes any reasonable person think the best way is to quarantine those who do not want The White Man's Way into their own Homelands, and sort through the rest to see how and where they can fit into society, since obviously far too many of them do not want to fit into society.

Either get into the 21st Century or stay TF out of it and everyone else's way.  Go live in your own paradise in a Homeland set aside for you.

Frank wrote on Dec 6^th, 2022 at 5:34pm:


Ask Jordan Peterson: requires external assistance, in this case, government.

1. Sobering up program.
2. a Job Guarantee, once 1. is achieved, because the competitive market economy cannot ensure basic success for all; again by definition: a competition has winners and losers.   
3. the above steps required to close the gap.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 11:40am:


See where your Libertarian fake "freedom values" leads?

You consider government-managed, sensible sobering-up programs as 'enforced re-education'.
 
But how will chronic alcoholics overcome their addiction, in dysfunctional black communities, without outside assistance? Even whites need groups like AA....even in the context of a functional community.

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Do I detect movement in your brain synapses?....well done!....you have described the start of a JG program. 

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Nah...that was for criminals.

The CDEP is a better model for instilling the 'habit of work'.

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...life expectancy, health status, employment stats, poverty stats, incarceration stats.....

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More GIGO from your frozen brain; the above rectification policies will reverse the sad reality you describe.

First you claim re-education is illegitimate, and then you insist no positive achievement is possible.

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Not sure who these "do-gooders" are, why they will be up your arse, and who is claiming "oppression and invasion".

eg, Price says the nation must intervene to close the gap.

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That's what ideology-informed, competitive-market,  neoliberal governments do, to avoid non-market solutions like the CDEP. 

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Of course you can, you just have to abandon your delusional Libertarian ideology, to discover how educable humans are. 

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The CDEP was a voluntary program, ready to be expanded before CIS market ideologues shut it down

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We all have to assimilate; Pearson, Mundine and Price all implicitly agree. 

In fact Pearson spelt it out explicitly in his 5th Boyer Lecture: we all have our superficial identities (religion, race, culture) but we are all Australians  ... (even human, like those people overseas). 

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Addressed above. Your Libertarian brain is the problem, holding back community development in the name of "freedom".

"Civilization is a race between education and catastrophe" : HG Wells.

Public education via government decree, not via individual Libertarian ideology.