Frank wrote on Feb 13
th, 2023 at 5:45pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 13
th, 2023 at 10:46am:
Frank wrote on Feb 13
th, 2023 at 9:31am:
Our mistake, he argues, was to imagine that the solutions to human problems lie in politics and law rather than in the practical application of basic human rights.
Of course; and a basic human right is described in UNUDHR article 23:
"Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment. 2. Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work".Sutton of course is a hypocrite, he doesn't believe in the above.
And work for blacks has to take into account the h-g tradition, now eclipsed.
NOBODY - not Captain Cook, not the First Fleet, not you - makes anyone drink himself senseless every day, beat his wife, rape his niece, neglect his children, give her babies FAS, let them roam the street at night afraid to go home. These are either done or not done, entirely up to the individual, nobody else.
Not true: unemployment destroys families and relationships, even among whites.
Quote:Aborigines are no exception.
Correct, they are like whites, except
systemic unemployment and hence enforced welfare dependency, is much greater among blacks.
Quote: It is up to each and every single one of them to decide to drink or not, beat the wife or not, rape the niece or not, neglect the kiddies or not. No amount of government funding can change things that are entirely within an individual's power to do or not do.
Refuted above: you ignore the disaster of entrenched unemployment in communities. That's why governments of all persuasions always want to avoid recessions and the associated unemployment.
Quote:The 'elders' have their hands out for 'welcome to country' baksheesh but are evidently ignored by the people they are supposedly the wise elders of, leaders and 'custodians of the cultural knowledge'. That 'cultural knowledge' has no effect on the base, degrading behaviour of a largish chunk of remote Aborigines still closest to the the land, still closest to their tribal, ancestral ways.
A disjunct between the well-off and those subject to entrenched unemployment and poverty is a feature of all communities.
Quote:If the Chinese or Indonesians or whoever invaded tomorrow, would Australians simply go on the grog, rape and pillage and blame the Chinese invaders for their behaviour? Would ANYONE take them seriously if they did?
Wrong question: Australians would engage in guerilla war until the invaders were expelled, or until they or the invaders were exterminated/defeated.
Note: the gap in military technology was too vast, when Britain invaded Oz after 1788.
Quote:Of course not. But da blak fella is mysterious, moves in diverse, vibrant ways, 40 thousand year old ways. Who is to judge the drinking, the violence, the rape, the neglect? Soooo Eurocentric.
And you are so incapable of understanding the effect of the loss of culture on the survivors of the invasion.
Quote:But what about the ones in suits, in university and government positions? The ones on TV, in business, the ones who ignored all that Bbwianesque bollocks about victimhood and are more successful and are better off than all the Bbwianesque ijits. Traitors??
Most (all?) of them have some European ancestry, giving them a foot in both cultures already.
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