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Question: Will the referendum be voted in?
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The Aboriginal Voice referendum (Read 91774 times)
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Reply #735 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 5:41am
 
Boris wrote on Feb 14th, 2023 at 7:43am:
John Smith wrote on Feb 14th, 2023 at 7:33am:
Boris wrote on Feb 14th, 2023 at 6:41am:
John Smith wrote on Feb 14th, 2023 at 6:03am:
Frank wrote on Feb 13th, 2023 at 5:29pm:
Well, WHAT difference does it make to have the Voice in the Constitution rather than merely be legislated by Parliament without any Constitutional change?



if it makes no difference then why have you and the other racist wankers on here shed so many tears over it? Roll Eyes


And this from someone who has never seen the carnage and has no clue of the reality



unlike your fake nurse who turned out had never worked in Alice as a nurse? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


She is an NT nurse and she saw horror - as did I

A Northern Territory nurse who spoke out about the sexual abuse children in remote Indigenous communities suffer has come under fire from trolls.

Rachel Hale, 45, has been working as a full-time cosmetic nurse for the past two years in the Territory.

She previously worked for Darwin's Danila Dilba Aboriginal Health Service, NT Health, an alcohol and rehab centre and a jail and did cosmetic work on the side.

But after sharing anecdotes about some of the horrific abuse she and her colleagues have witnessed, she came under fire for giving an 'unsubstantiated' theory amid claims she wasn't a real nurse.

'Can anyone confirm if Rachel Hale has ever worked as a nurse (no not a cosmetic nurse) in Alice Springs?' one person questioned on Facebook.

A YouTube commentator, Tom Tanuki, dedicated an entire 15-minute video to Ms Hale, where he rejected her being dubbed an 'Outback nurse' - arguing she simply 'squirted Botox' into peoples' faces.

Ms Hale lives in Darwin and visits Alice Springs every couple of months for her business.

She said she has experienced first-hand the violence in the town but has now had to defend her background.

'Everyone started calling me and messaging me, saying I'm a fake and I've never witnessed anything,' she told news.com.au, adding she's received countless 'disgusting' and threatening messages.

'People are saying I'm just trying to promote my own profile. What am I gaining out of this? I knew I'd get blowback, I just didn't think it would be this severe.'

The nurse said while she now works in a different profession, 'it doesn't discount what I've seen and what my colleagues have seen'.

'It's about these people boosting their own political and personal platforms and tearing me to shreds.'

Ms Hale earlier revealed the shocking sexual and physical abuse to Daily Mail Australia, claiming children were roaming the streets at night because they were safer there than at home.

During her 14 years of nursing in communities near both Alice Springs and Darwin, when she was called to a remote Aboriginal home she would be accompanied by a second nurse because the visits were so unsafe.

'Some of these houses have 10-15 people sleeping on the floor of a three-bedroom house. There's no personal hygiene, there's lice, scabies, fungal rashes, maggots in wounds, perforated ear drums - the level of care is shocking,' she said.

'That's why the kids are not at home, along with the vicious sexual assaults. The parents, the uncles, the cousins are all drinking and the kids are being preyed upon.

'The wives are being beaten in front of the kids, check any emergency department and you'll see the horrific injuries.'

Ms Hale recalled horrifying incidents and injuries seen by herself and nursing colleagues of children as young as two being raped.

'It's hard to talk about, but the physical trauma that these kids have endured is hard to comprehend,' she said.

'My colleagues told me about witnessing an eight-year-old girl being raped by a man who had covered her lower half with butter.

'She didn't scream or cry or resist because she was so used to it.'

Ms Hale said she saw very young children and toddlers with sexually transmitted diseases, including a whole family with the same strain of gonorrhea - both children and parents.

'I've seen a four-year-old boy in a clinic with anal warts and a sex-year-old girl with vaginal sores,' she said.

'Children petrified to come in [to medical clinics] with their mothers as ''daddy will find out'' and the abuse will escalate.'

Ms Hale said alcohol did play a big role, as it perpetuated the abuse children faced at home and shaped their lives as they grew up.

'I've seen babies dehydrated as their mother wouldn't breastfeed and were drinking alcohol and pregnant women pickling their babies with a bottle of rum each day while six months pregnant,' she said.

'Fetal alcohol spectrum disorders are very common and often used as a defence in court to excuse behaviour.

'Some feed a toddler a can of Coke and a packet of chips for the day and that's it.'

Alcohol restrictions have since been implemented into Alice Springs following Anthony Albanese's visit last week.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11707443/Northern-Territory-nurse-Rache...





She injects botox into the wrinkles of wankers.  She was put on the rights soapbox as an expert on nursing in Alice,  a city she has never worked as a nurse.

By the way numbnuts,  all nurses see horrors. People don't go to hospital to celebrate.
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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #736 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 6:43am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14th, 2023 at 8:22pm:
The Government never publishes propaganda...


Stick to the TSK TSK TSK post. It’s far safer....in your case.
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Reply #737 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 7:17am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14th, 2023 at 8:22pm:
Belgarion wrote on Feb 14th, 2023 at 8:09pm:
The government is attempting to hide its agenda by not publishing a pamphlet giving for and against arguments before the referendum. It has been called out on this blatant attempt to hide the facts from the people: https://ipa.org.au/ipa-today/australians-support-a-free-and-fair-debate-on-voice...


The Government never publishes propaganda, either for or against for refereda, Belgarion.  They are limited by the Constitution and the High Court decisions on the matter.  If you are old enough to remember the last referenda - the Republican question, the Government in that cast did not issue anything on the yes or no side of the question. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



What a complete idiot you are, Doktor Bbwian Lobotony.  Tsk, tsk,   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The endless agitation and emotional blackmail for the yes on radio, tv, print by Tennis Albo and his government and Aboriginal quangos IS government propaganda. Just because they dont give you a booklet doesn't mean you don't know what the government is pushing for very hard on the referendum.

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Estragon: I can’t go on like this.
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Reply #738 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 8:07am
 
The ABC and SBS are propaganda tools for the Extreme Left in Australia who have Hi Jacked the Public Service and Public Broadcasters to push the extreme Leftist agenda.
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Reply #739 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 8:09am
 
Quote John Smith Quote:
She injects botox into the wrinkles of wankers.  She was put on the rights soapbox as an expert on nursing in Alice,  a city she has never worked as a nurse.

By the way numbnuts,  all nurses see horrors. People don't go to hospital to celebrate.


Obviously reading & comprehension are a strong suit for you.

Do you always call women wankers?

Hypocritically denigrating a persons profession that they changed to because of the horrors they saw & the abuse they copped working as a nurse in the NT ... weak as piss.

She has worked as a nurse in remote communities, some of which are where the young ones running amok in Alice come from.

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Reply #740 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 11:42am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 14th, 2023 at 9:10pm:
I thought the CDEP tried that


It did, and succeeded in reducing crime and alcoholism in communities, UNTIL it was cancelled by 'small government' , free market ideologues.

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- yet not a single 'trade', 'skill', 'motivation or organised work ever went into any community.... once the cash dried up, so did the work.....


Plenty of skill, motivation and organized work was developed; and as for the "cash drying up", that's just greedy private sector ideology wishing to maximize its own claims on the nation's resources.
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Reply #741 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 12:26pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 6:43am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14th, 2023 at 8:22pm:
The Government never publishes propaganda...


Stick to the TSK TSK TSK post. It’s far safer....in your case.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Lisa, are you afraid of the truth that much that you need to lie to yourself?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #742 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 12:28pm
 
Boris wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 8:07am:
The ABC and SBS are propaganda tools for the Extreme Left in Australia who have Hi Jacked the Public Service and Public Broadcasters to push the extreme Leftist agenda.


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Whatever, whatever, Matty... Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #743 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 12:30pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 12:26pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 6:43am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14th, 2023 at 8:22pm:
The Government never publishes propaganda...


Stick to the TSK TSK TSK post. It’s far safer....in your case.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Lisa, are you afraid of the truth that much that you need to lie to yourself?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


1. OMG that’s EXACTLY WHAT you are!

2. Self projecting does not get any better than this post by Bwian.
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Reply #744 - Feb 16th, 2023 at 12:05pm
 
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Reply #745 - Feb 16th, 2023 at 12:07pm
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 8:09am:
Quote John Smith [quote]She injects botox into the wrinkles of wankers.  She was put on the rights soapbox as an expert on nursing in Alice,  a city she has never worked as a nurse.

By the way numbnuts,  all nurses see horrors. People don't go to hospital to celebrate.


Obviously reading & comprehension are not a strong suit for you.

Do you always call women wankers?

Hypocritically denigrating a persons profession that they changed to because of the horrors they saw & the abuse they copped working as a nurse in the NT ... weak as piss.

She has worked as a nurse in remote communities, some of which are where the young ones running amok in Alice come from.


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Reply #746 - Feb 16th, 2023 at 2:43pm
 
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #748 - Feb 17th, 2023 at 5:37am
 
Arafura By-Election - sounds more like a gerrymander to me... but Sovereign Aborigines refuse to vote in Australian elections, don't they?  That'd be giving in to White supremacism  ....
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Reply #749 - Feb 17th, 2023 at 5:38am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16th, 2023 at 2:43pm:


I wonder why that would be... **hint** because it's an empty headed idea?

"executive government of The Commonwealth" - so... what?  An extra "executive government of the Indigenous"?  If not, why should there be any attempt at defining any 'executive arm" of any government?  Surely that remains intact and unchanged..... hello??

They're gonna need a bigger explanation of exactly what they think they are being paid handsomely for.  Clearly they are collapsing into utter confusion.... time to call it quits, I think.
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