The dilemma: How do you make laws in a multiethnic liberal democracy for a particular ethnicity with stone age culture?



An observation: most current supporters of Yes would be loud No voters if this amendment were put before them by a Morrison government. THEN they would smell a rat, like the rest of us do now. There is no way they would trust a coalition government with such a proposal and give it the carte blanche they are eager to give a Labor/Green government.

Readers may not be aware that there is no Department of Indigenous Affairs as such. No ivory tower bureaucracy ensconsed in Canberra developing policy, drafting laws and overseeing implementation, as we see in most other ministries.  The minister for Indigenous Australians is part of the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet and exercises her responsibilities through a number of agencies and boards that include:

Aboriginal Hostels Limited, Anindilyakwa Land Council, Australian Institute of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Studies, Central Land Council, Indigenous Business Australia, Indigenous Land and Sea Corporation, National Indigenous Australians Agency, Northern Land Council, Northern Territory Aboriginal Investment Corporation, Tiwi Land Council, Torres Strait Regional Authority, Wreck Bay Aboriginal Community Council, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Mental Health and Suicide Prevention Advisory Group and Aboriginal Hostels Limited (Board), Australian Institute of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Studies (Board), Central Land Council (Board), Indigenous Business Australia (Board) and the Indigenous Land and Sea Corporation (Board)

So, there is hardly a lack of grass roots advice on Aboriginal matters.  Nonetheless, the Voice will insinuate itself into the workings of these groups – as well as other Departments such as Health, Education, Energy and Climate Change – to such an extent they will effectively become part of the government.  Indeed, on reflection, there may not need to be any litigation because nothing will emanate from the government that is not already a product of the Voice.

And that makes the Voice an Aboriginal-only Parliament.

https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/the-voice/2023/02/thank-you-marcia-langton-for-y...

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25^th, 2023 at 1:45pm:



You are deranged

Is a shot loon - people are lining up to say they will be voting NO... regardless of any silly attempts at 'polls' that show otherwise.  People are not so stupid as to further divide this country against itself.... we've got enough of that already, and to quote Lincoln - a nation divided against itself cannot stand....

NO VOICE!

Of course you're racist, Brian - you support activists for one colour over all others.

So to accord with law everyone else should have more direct say over everything that affects their lives....

Already covered for you in my call for "Plebiscites To The People NOW!"... people includes Abos even though they kick in the traces all the time...

Please explain why they, of all groups, should have more say etc..... and show us where, for example, 'the people' had a clear say in immigration policy and in economic stuff etc... then perhaps you could attempt to explain to us all what affects them ONLY and not others or everyone else in the community....

Give it a go - I know it's hard when the difficult questions are asked.

BTW - it isn't some mythical 'conservative element' that is trying to stuff the YES vote.... it's ordinary people asking legitimate questions and either being fobbed off or finding that the answers are unacceptable in our form of democracy.  The YES proposal is doing a fine job of stuffing itself up with the utterances of its advocates.....




Maybe you need to get your mind around what democracy is, sonny..... and it ain't no racist, apartheidist, one-sided voice........

Pedro Curevo wrote on Feb 25^th, 2023 at 5:00pm:

Megan Davis is a professor. Langton, too. Burney, Wyatt - ministers. Price, Thorpe, others - parliamentarians.

How come they are not disadvantaged? Why IS there such a spread among Aborigines? It cannot possibly be race.

What is it? Why do some succeed and others not? How is that different to white professors and white drug addicted drunks and drongos?

It is OBVIOUSLY not race. Yet there is a push for a race based differentiation between Aboriginal drunks and drongos versus all other drunks and drongos.

Madness.

An Aboriginal wastrel is not a wastrel because he is not heard by politician. He is a wastrel for exactly the same reason a wastrel of any other hue is a wastrel.