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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #960 - Feb 26^th, 2023 at 5:55pm

One of the Nazi's greatest achievements was full employment - everyone had a job but no real rights in it.... also they had organised by the state holidays and so forth.... a true Nirvana that was....

Some think that full employment will solve all problems, but forget that factors such as inflation and so forth continue to operate and the working person is still never better off and will just get enough to get by.

Pipe dream....

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Captain Nemo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9926 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum Reply #961 - Feb 26^th, 2023 at 9:30pm LOL ... Albo is running for cover already!!!
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83842 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum Reply #962 - Feb 26^th, 2023 at 9:48pm Well - it WILL be voted down and it WILL be against him. He pushed it.
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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11924 Gender:	Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum Reply #963 - Feb 26^th, 2023 at 10:15pm I'd bet Albanese and his government will be more relieved than the rest of us if the referendum fails. Be ready for subtle political self-sabotage from Labor.
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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #964 - Feb 26^th, 2023 at 10:17pm

Frank wrote on Feb 26^th, 2023 at 5:30pm:

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Solution: guaranteed above poverty employment for all, then democracy is largely obsolete (except for minor issues)...

....carry on....

That sounds like slavery or serfdom.

It's not; it IS 'guaranteed above poverty employment for all - at a minimum'. The upper limit is open to determination by the community.

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Imagine if Australia also abolished the dole and introduced anti-parasite laws against people out of work for more than 4 weeks.

That's not what a JG is - see above. (A JG is based on a variable 'buffer pool' of employed workers to control inflation, instead of the present pool of un/underemployed workers to control inflation.

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https://nintil.com/the-soviet-union-achieving-full-employment/

The Soviet model was a different model.

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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #965 - Feb 27^th, 2023 at 12:49pm

This shows just how toxic some of the Yes activists are. Like the Left generally, they want to shut up anyone sho doesnt toe their propaganda line.

Blackmores has found itself in the centre of a political storm with calls to boycott the Australian vitamin company flooding Twatter.

The controversy was sparked after major shareholder Marcus Blackmore, whose dad started the vitamin giant, publicly declared he would vote 'no' on the Indigenous Voice to Parliament referendum.

His announcement saw the hashtag 'BoycottBlackmores' shooting to the top of Twatter's trending list as people either pledged to avoid the company's products or argued why it shouldn't matter.

Mr Blackmore said he would be supporting Indigenous senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price's 'vote no' campaign which is funded by conservative group Advance.

'If Jacinta tells me I should vote no, I am voting no. She obviously knows a lot more about the Aboriginal issues than I do,' he told The Australian Financial Review last week.

'I have not been convinced by the Prime Minister or anybody else that I should vote yes. It's no different to business. If you're no good at sales, employ a salesman.'

BREAKING! Blackmore sales skyrocketing.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83842 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum Reply #966 - Feb 27^th, 2023 at 7:02pm https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/lidia-thorpe-protested-at-the-sydney-mardi-...
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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29297 Gender:	Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum Reply #967 - Feb 27^th, 2023 at 7:18pm Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 26^th, 2023 at 9:30pm: LOL ... Albo is running for cover already!!! https://i.imgur.com/P57DOde.jpg It will be exactly about him, the Labor Party & his/their failed campaign in woke tokenism.
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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29297 Gender:	Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum Reply #968 - Feb 27^th, 2023 at 7:19pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 26^th, 2023 at 10:15pm: I'd bet Albanese and his government will be more relieved than the rest of us if the referendum fails. Be ready for subtle political self-sabotage from Labor. Already happened & Marcia Langton helped that outcome.
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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29297 Gender:	Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum Reply #969 - Feb 27^th, 2023 at 7:21pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 27^th, 2023 at 7:02pm: https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/lidia-thorpe-protested-at-the-sydney-mardi-... Yeah saw the coverage on the lunatic..... she has to be removed from a Senatorial role .. & pronto.
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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12511 Gender:	Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum Reply #970 - Feb 27^th, 2023 at 7:34pm Frank wrote on Feb 27^th, 2023 at 12:49pm: Like the Left generally, they want to shut up anyone who doesnt toe their propaganda line. This from the guy who reckons "(a minimum) above poverty employment for all 'sounds like slavery' " - and then referenced the Soviets. Classic TINA fallacy.
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 44744 Gender:	Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum Reply #971 - Feb 28^th, 2023 at 7:09am
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Boris Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3977 Gender:	Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum Reply #972 - Feb 28^th, 2023 at 8:05am The Voice is the Biggest threat to our Democracy since WWII. All the Leftie looney Latte sippers want it because they are looneys This is what the Voice will do to Australia - stop it
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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #973 - Feb 28^th, 2023 at 8:19am

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 27^th, 2023 at 7:34pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 27^th, 2023 at 12:49pm:

Like the Left generally, they want to shut up anyone who doesnt toe their propaganda line.

This from the guy who reckons "(a minimum) above poverty employment for all 'sounds like slavery' " - and then referenced the Soviets.

Classic TINA fallacy.

Selectively quoting, mon petit perroquet on uppers. What I said:

That sounds like slavery or serfdom.
Or what the Soviers had, 'full employment' - no unemployment benefit plus strong anti parasite laws, including jail and forced labour.

In all these cases responsibility for individual was assumed by the slave owner, the landlord or the state.

Imagine if Australia also abolished the dole and introduced anti-parasite laws against people out of work for more than 4 weeks.
https://nintil.com/the-soviet-union-achieving-full-employment/

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Re: The Aboriginal Voice referendum
Reply #974 - Feb 28^th, 2023 at 9:54am

We prefer the term "pimply faced, fat-arsed (probably with pimples), latte` sippers who've never once gone out to actually see".

How many of these armchair 'experts' so loudly proclaiming "the Abos could have burnt the bush off better" actually ever SAW a burnoff and the conditions in which it is allowed? How would a few Abos scattered across a vast area even achieve it to the extent that big fires never happened? It didn't matter if a big fire occurred because there weren't enough of them to be bothered by it. Just go and catch a wallaby somewhere else.

So they limited their burns to an area where they might be coming back later..... just torch and go, and it didn't matter if it got out of control.

There's no ooga-booga in it.... NOBODY is permitted to light a fire in hot windy conditions .... and every farmer does a 'traditional burn' every year in some spots.

FFS... it's not rocket burn science.

What else can they teach anyone these days? Let's hear it..... Hunting At Macca's with the Footyjira Tribe? Hey, Boss - guess what - where trees grow is where there's more water! **picks self up off floor**

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