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Reply #1050 - Dec 2nd, 2022 at 12:45pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 2nd, 2022 at 12:28pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 2nd, 2022 at 12:22pm:
Don't worry about him....he'll no doubt sue the $h1t out of the govt for damages.

THE ENTIRE FIASCO HAS COST THE TAXPAYERS OF AUSTRALIA UNTOLD MILLIONS!

Meantime we're in an unresolved global recession, unresolved global pandemic and our entire Aged Care system is bankrupt.

Wasting much needed money against such a backdrop of concurrent crises is both reckless and cruel!



he'll no doubt sue the $h1t out of the govt for damages

I don't know about that - can he?
We need a lawyer like Aussie to chime in and tell us.


He will not be suing anyone.  I hope he does.

He dodged a bullet and he will not oine up for a second shot at him.

You can't be a Plaintiff in a civil action and NOT GET IN THE BOX TO GIVE EVIDENCE IN SUPPORT OF YOUR CLAIM.

The very last thing he wants is to be anywhere near that witness box, even though his very freedom might well have depended on him doing so.  He was willing to risk, and did risk, a conviction and imprisonment rather than face the music.
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Reply #1051 - Dec 2nd, 2022 at 12:52pm
 
You can stop strutting around the place Lisa Jones.  The decision not to proceed has SFA to do with any lack of evidence or commitment of the Prosecutor.

He simply was not willing to risk the life of Higgins in pursuing Lehrmann.  She is in Hospital as I type as a result of all this, and he was just not willing to put her life in any further jeopardy, to the extent that he could mitigate that existential and real potential.

What would you do if you were a Prosecutor?  Run a Trial and see the alleged victim perish as a result?

If I was Lehrmann, I'd buy lottery tickets every day of my existence for as long as that is.

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Reply #1052 - Dec 2nd, 2022 at 1:11pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 2nd, 2022 at 12:41pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 2nd, 2022 at 9:01am:
It would be great if the accused was able to sue the crap out of certain members of the media.


I desperately hope he does.  But I'll bet pounds to peanuts he will not.


Once again I disagree with you Aussie.

Bruce has lost a lot in terms of reputation, future employment opportunities etc. Not only will he sue but he will instruct his lawyers to highlight every key milestone in the case where Brittany Higgins stuffed up.

Why? Because each milestone will give him an opportunity to re iterate the severity of his damages claim.

Here's just 1 important and well documented milestone where Brittany stuffed up :

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/bruce-lehrmanns-legal-team-re...
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Reply #1054 - Dec 2nd, 2022 at 1:12pm
 
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Reply #1056 - Dec 2nd, 2022 at 1:22pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 2nd, 2022 at 12:52pm:
You can stop strutting around the place Lisa Jones.  The decision not to proceed has SFA to do with any lack of evidence or commitment of the Prosecutor.

He simply was not willing to risk the life of Higgins in pursuing Lehrmann.  She is in Hospital as I type as a result of all this, and he was just not willing to put her life in any further jeopardy, to the extent that he could mitigate that existential and real potential.

What would you do if you were a Prosecutor?  Run a Trial and see the alleged victim perish as a result?

If I was Lehrmann, I'd buy lottery tickets every day of my existence for as long as that is.



1. You should read my posts more carefully Aussie. You conveniently skim past the key bits which don't make you look good and I'm sick of it!

2. The DPP stuffed up from the get go. HE ( and those pathetic wanna be publicity hangers on) are to blame for where Brittany is at today! The DPP SHOULD have been able to foresee the circus in its initial assessment but it didn't. Why? They USED Brittany as an opportunity for themselves!

3. Which brings me to you Aussie. The fact that you yourself couldn't see where this trial was going from day 1 proved to me immediately something about you: you have no idea about women AND court.

4. Stop assuming (and you bloody well are doing this on a veiled basis too) that I'm some Bruce supporter! I'm tired of saying I'm not!

5. I know I disagree with you a lot (and that can get annoying for you) but sometimes Aussie even you (a lawyer who is old enough to be my dad's age) needs to be ready to eat humble pie.

Here it is Aussie. Enjoy!

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Reply #1057 - Dec 2nd, 2022 at 1:24pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 2nd, 2022 at 12:45pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 2nd, 2022 at 12:28pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 2nd, 2022 at 12:22pm:
Don't worry about him....he'll no doubt sue the $h1t out of the govt for damages.

THE ENTIRE FIASCO HAS COST THE TAXPAYERS OF AUSTRALIA UNTOLD MILLIONS!

Meantime we're in an unresolved global recession, unresolved global pandemic and our entire Aged Care system is bankrupt.

Wasting much needed money against such a backdrop of concurrent crises is both reckless and cruel!



he'll no doubt sue the $h1t out of the govt for damages

I don't know about that - can he?
We need a lawyer like Aussie to chime in and tell us.


He will not be suing anyone.  I hope he does.

He dodged a bullet and he will not oine up for a second shot at him.

You can't be a Plaintiff in a civil action and NOT GET IN THE BOX TO GIVE EVIDENCE IN SUPPORT OF YOUR CLAIM.

The very last thing he wants is to be anywhere near that witness box, even though his very freedom might well have depended on him doing so.  He was willing to risk, and did risk, a conviction and imprisonment rather than face the music.



Thanks Aussie,
that is sound legal advice.
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Reply #1058 - Dec 2nd, 2022 at 1:25pm
 
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Reply #1059 - Dec 2nd, 2022 at 1:26pm
 
Bloody Hell 😐
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Reply #1060 - Dec 2nd, 2022 at 1:27pm
 
Wish this forum glitch would be fixed
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Reply #1061 - Dec 2nd, 2022 at 1:40pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 2nd, 2022 at 1:27pm:
Wish this forum glitch would be fixed



Hi Lisa,
I think the problem is in your browser.
The page had already flipped but somehow your
browser couldn't pick up the changes.
Maybe - try to update your browser?
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Reply #1062 - Dec 2nd, 2022 at 2:05pm
 
"He simply was not willing to risk the life of Higgins in pursuing Lehrmann.  She is in Hospital"

Hmmm - I recall Lehrmann went to hospital too.... stress, you know....with the lack of hard evidence clearly any further trial would be a trial for Young Brittany .... but it is convenient.

Make a good part of the book....
'my terrible trauma of having the perpetrator go scot free   .... oh, the HORROR of the lawyers in the DPP not wanting to go ahead when I was prepared to face the torrent of fire again - right took the wind out of my sails that did!!'
- oh, dear... we'll just have to change the laws so not only are Abos special children in a court, but women as well... make it a proper shemozzle even more than it currently is.... just set in stone the already preferential treatment given to some under law and make it just an arbitrary thing along lines of race and sexand social position and even Postcode ... that'll really help the Decline Of the West along....

As Pamela Stephenson said, when told that often a dying Hindu would have a few drops of the sacred Ganges placed on his lips.... "Well - that'll certainly help things along!".... I suppose a few drops of this social science water on the lips will help the death of the West along nicely ....
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Reply #1063 - Dec 2nd, 2022 at 3:09pm
 
I dunno - if he feels as strongly about his innocence as Ms Higgins felt about his guilt - he would face a court and tell his story... and put her through that again, no?

I haven't presumed guilt or innocence here - but I will not be guided by prejudice or victim affirmation ..... I require proof on reliable hard facts.... not just opinions...

Anyway - The Guv might quietly slip him a few large to send him on his way and retain the silence... does Young Brittany have a claim in for job-related etc for compensation?
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....... see
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