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Reply #1260 - Dec 8th, 2022 at 8:53pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2022 at 6:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 8th, 2022 at 5:56pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2022 at 8:21am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 8th, 2022 at 5:37am:
I don't understand why people get so vehement about defending a rapist.  It's not like you're related to him ..... or are you? Shocked



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Ok, that explains why you defend him, but surely that doesn't apply to everyone on here defending him?


I'm not defending him. Show me where I'm actually doing that?

There's something fishy in Denmark the way the DPP has dropped the case citing looking after her mental health.

Mental health that is so bad she now has her legal team chasing a multimillion dollar compensation payout.



She gave notice of her intended suit back in March this year.  Nothing 'now' or recent about it.
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Reply #1261 - Dec 8th, 2022 at 10:03pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 8th, 2022 at 5:58pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 8th, 2022 at 4:16pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 8th, 2022 at 5:37am:
I don't understand why people get so vehement about defending a rapist.  It's not like you're related to him ..... or are you? Shocked


The issue is that a person has been accused of a serious crime, after the complainant took her sweet time making the accusation. This is basically giving me the opinion that a woman has changed her mind about consenting to sex with a work colleague.


well guess what, some people react differently to being raped than others.

Many women don't report it at all and yet that doesn't mean they weren't raped.


We still do not know if a rape occurred. The lack of DNA evidence is the real factor here. If you cleaned yourself up after being assaulted, you are washing away evidence of being assaulted. I have not heard of Higgins having caused defensive injuries to Lehrmann. I mean, even inebriated you would still have enough sense to fight off an attacker or atleast struggle.

I think Higgins has just had a change of heart about cheating on her boyfriend.
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Reply #1262 - Dec 8th, 2022 at 10:12pm
 
Aussie :

I've been reading on Instagram (and there's plenty there) about this cringeworthy fiasco.

Brittany and her Bruce look a like/twin brother boyfriend David are now BOTH suing a long list of people. Both are claiming they can't work and need millions in compensation because of that.

Bruce is doing the same.

So right now this is the scenario:

1. No one has been convicted of anything.

2. No one has gone to prison.

3. Brittany is busy writing her book Mein Kampf/My Struggle.

4. 3 people in their mid to late 20's are currently suing a list of people for millions of dollars in compensation because they claim they can no longer work.

HAS AUSTRALIA GONE MAD???
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Reply #1263 - Dec 8th, 2022 at 10:12pm
 
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Reply #1264 - Dec 8th, 2022 at 10:34pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 8th, 2022 at 10:12pm:
Aussie :

I've been reading on Instagram (and there's plenty there) about this cringeworthy fiasco.

Brittany and her Bruce look a like/twin brother boyfriend David are now BOTH suing a long list of people. Both are claiming they can't work and need millions in compensation because of that.

Bruce is doing the same.

So right now this is the scenario:

1. No one has been convicted of anything.

2. No one has gone to prison.

3. Brittany is busy writing her book Mein Kampf/My Struggle.

4. 3 people in their mid to late 20's are currently suing a list of people for millions of dollars in compensation because they claim they can no longer work.

HAS AUSTRALIA GONE MAD???

Ha ha!

I watched that movie - Michael Douglas and Kathleen Turner - The War of the Roses.
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Re: Trial of Brittany Higgins's alleged rapist begins
Reply #1265 - Dec 8th, 2022 at 10:45pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 8th, 2022 at 8:53pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2022 at 6:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 8th, 2022 at 5:56pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 8th, 2022 at 8:21am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 8th, 2022 at 5:37am:
I don't understand why people get so vehement about defending a rapist.  It's not like you're related to him ..... or are you? Shocked



2 short planks - thick as.



Ok, that explains why you defend him, but surely that doesn't apply to everyone on here defending him?


I'm not defending him. Show me where I'm actually doing that?

There's something fishy in Denmark the way the DPP has dropped the case citing looking after her mental health.

Mental health that is so bad she now has her legal team chasing a multimillion dollar compensation payout.



She gave notice of her intended suit back in March this year.  Nothing 'now' or recent about it.


March this year?  Wow - only 2.5 years after she resigned........................ that makes it all relevant and timely......
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Reply #1266 - Dec 8th, 2022 at 10:54pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 8th, 2022 at 8:51pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 8th, 2022 at 6:51pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 8th, 2022 at 6:28pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 8th, 2022 at 6:25pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 8th, 2022 at 3:52pm:
What was in error in what she said?



Shall we count the ways... - "it was obvious who was on trial here'..... what nonsense.  She was NEVER on trial, but she did have the responsibility of facing the person she accused and being questioned about the issues and the complaint and what was ans wasn't done....

You know what they say about that kitchen being too hot girls... you can always go home to the kitchen...


Really?  Have a look at the pro Lehrmann posts in this thread.  Are they defending him or putting her on trial?


So people supporting the idea that, alongside the complainant, the accused, having been turned out by a court, can sue for damages, is somehow a crime now?

Show us - with full quote - where anyone 'defended' the accused..... and where anyone put Higgins on trial other than herself by her own choice.  Kitchen too hot, remember.....

And you may ONLY use things said/written during the course of the trial... once that is over, clerk of the court, the issue has become the lunge for cash - and probably for a seat as the Joan Of Arc for the rape accusers (where is Lehrmann's seat as the John Of Arc for the rape accused?) and possibly a future lunge for a political seat - and what that implies about the character of the individuals involved..... not to mention those who supported one side in the allegation and trial phase as if it was a foregone conclusion that he was guilty - thus attempting to pervert the course of justice by applying pressure from baying crowds and other useful tools.

When will they be charged?


Grappler, have a look at your own posts and the posts of many others and note how many times there is a concentrated incessant attack on Higgins (her on Trial) and SFA about the lies he told and his conduct both at the time, when he was interviewed by the Coppers and at the Trial.

You can keep pissing into the wind as much as you like.  No piss in my face follows.


Never attacked Higgins - only ever pointed out inconsistencies and poor judgement and poor actions on many parts....

You are being over-emotional again.....

What makes you think that there is some equity in why people should comment on poor decisions - such as Brucie and his stories and reasons why - when he was not the complainant?  What makes you think they cannot comment on the very poor actions of the complainant, times many?

He wasn't out there flogging his story on the media nationally....attending ridiculous anti-law marches ... making a public spectacle of himself ... only to be torn to shreds as a witness time and again for making false statements on oath.

The dress, the doctors, the long after bruise photo, the not wearing panties, the lack of a timely complaint, the removal of messages from phones, the telling content of some revealed phone messages.....

Are you serious?

It was her choice..... and all through the trial I was neutral and said I was even sorry for her and that he was a total dork if he did it...

Are you and mothra the same person?  Same silly interpretation of what people say and zero reading of what they actually said.

Your kind are so wrong about reality that you seriously need help..... and if you say I ever attacked her, you are a liar.
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Re: Trial of Brittany Higgins's alleged rapist begins
Reply #1267 - Dec 8th, 2022 at 11:00pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 8th, 2022 at 10:12pm:
Aussie :

I've been reading on Instagram (and there's plenty there) about this cringeworthy fiasco.

Brittany and her Bruce look a like/twin brother boyfriend David are now BOTH suing a long list of people. Both are claiming they can't work and need millions in compensation because of that.

Bruce is doing the same.

So right now this is the scenario:

1. No one has been convicted of anything.

2. No one has gone to prison.

3. Brittany is busy writing her book Mein Kampf/My Struggle.

4. 3 people in their mid to late 20's are currently suing a list of people for millions of dollars in compensation because they claim they can no longer work.

HAS AUSTRALIA GONE MAD???


How come the new boyfriend is suing anyone? WGAF about that temporary part-timer?

No longer work?  What do you call writing a book for an already agreed advance?

That's like saying Julia G illard should sue for not being able to work as a PM but being forced instead to tour the world lecturing to silly young girls about how to take power and wreck a silly nation with silly feminist socialist half-baked ideas (not all socialist ideas are half-baked).... you know - like Brittanny's Law ... a half-baked sheila's idea of law and justice and protection from legal abuse....

"Come along quietly, Tovarich - you have been denounced and there is no escape! First Lubyanka where nobody hear you scream... then show trial with show confession and then show execution.... all for good of Republic and people, you understand... nobody denounced is ever innocent..... all are guilty ...."

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Reply #1268 - Dec 8th, 2022 at 11:09pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 8th, 2022 at 8:34pm:
Yep and Brittany is a despicable loser too! She is forever opening her mouth and talking cringeworthy shyte of the highest order! If she could just STFU but she's always fronting the media not realising the damage she's causing to herself and women in general.

Her latest rant essentially consisted of blaming and attacking our legal system's principle of presumption of innocence because it stood in her way. It was such a horrible obstacle for her! Well too bad Brittany! That's our legal system. And EVERYONE is entitled to that presumption. Even you! So next time you decide to hop into the ring make sure you remember that you can't just jump up and down accusing people with SFA evidence to back you up and expect the legal system of Australia to stop operating just for you.



All of which indicates to me that she was coached to put forward this idea that she should just totally and instantly be believed without question and Bruce hung, draw and quartered without trial  ... this seriously needs looking into .... I'd look closely at that 'commissioner for victims' sheila... for a start.......

I posted a thing from the women's legal centre (do men have a men's legal centre?) that clearly said that if police are unable to act on the available evidence, they are not calling you a liar..... they simply have to have enough evidence, and in most cases there is nowhere near enough, so the hype about '16%' is just the simple reality in play.

So all the hyperbolic emotion spewed by some, mothra/Aussie for one or two, here is moot and ridiculous... and NO - they will NOT have guilt by denouncement in this country, no matter how hard they try.

If once that was allowed in the door, that would be the end of all security whatsoever.....
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Reply #1269 - Dec 9th, 2022 at 2:43am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 8th, 2022 at 6:51am:
Geoff! I have no idea why you keep banging your head against the same freaking wall. Well that's exactly what it is as you keep repeating the same logical, factual information to Methra - a disturbed grey matterLESS tragic human being who isn't able to read and retain what is posted AT her...

LOL... yes Lisa, I wonder myself sometimes why I do that.

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I've noticed with a lot of her responses she seems to be very self-opinionated,
patronising, and inflexible in that she seldom accepts anybody else's points of
view as being relevant...  Ms Mothra is ALWAYS right, and will never admit to
any errors of judgement.

And yes; she does have an obvious problem with interpreting factual claims or
accepting even accredited, peer-reviewed statistics.   Sad really.



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Reply #1270 - Dec 9th, 2022 at 6:08am
 
AusGeoff wrote on Dec 9th, 2022 at 2:43am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 8th, 2022 at 6:51am:
Geoff! I have no idea why you keep banging your head against the same freaking wall. Well that's exactly what it is as you keep repeating the same logical, factual information to Methra - a disturbed grey matterLESS tragic human being who isn't able to read and retain what is posted AT her...

LOL... yes Lisa, I wonder myself sometimes why I do that.

https://i.postimg.cc/JhfwcXZy/5e8-1.jpg




I've noticed with a lot of her responses she seems to be very self-opinionated,
patronising, and inflexible in that she seldom accepts anybody else's points of
view as being relevant...  Ms Mothra is ALWAYS right, and will never admit to
any errors of judgement.

And yes; she does have an obvious problem with interpreting factual claims or
accepting even accredited, peer-reviewed statistics.   Sad really.





Hilarious. What fun!

Man Geoff, do you have some PMs coming your way. An absolute deluge of them.

BELIEVE EVERYTHING.

By the way, love to hear what peer reviewed papers i've rejected? ANy examples?

Interestingly, i don't recall ever being on a thread with you in which peer reviewed papers were cited.

Care to refresh my memory?

Methinks you have simply tripped over your spleen.
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Reply #1271 - Dec 9th, 2022 at 8:04am
 
Dear God you've been doing a manic Methra all-nighter even in THIS topic!

Log off and get to a doctor and get help! You're all over OzPol making a real dick of yourself and needlessly causing havoc. And just like you did on Yahoo.... 20 years back ....you're still confusing what others are posting and reading what's not there. You're an absolute shame and a disgrace! As well as an embarrassment to women. God I pity you!

On behalf of the few OzPol girls who are left I would like to apologise to everyone on OzPol who has been on the receiving end of Methra's incessant insanity all over this website especially over the past few days but it might be a good idea to ignore her ridiculous and illogical rants and just report her to Freediver who will no doubt once again give her a much needed break. Cheers
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Reply #1272 - Dec 9th, 2022 at 8:07am
 
One post is an all-nighter?

You hitting that critical point again Larry?
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Reply #1273 - Dec 9th, 2022 at 8:14am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 9th, 2022 at 8:04am:
Dear God you've been doing a manic Methra all-nighter even in THIS topic!

Log off and get to a doctor and get help! You're all over OzPol making a real dick of yourself and needlessly causing havoc. And just like you did on Yahoo.... 20 years back ....you're still confusing what others are posting and reading what's not there. You're an absolute shame and a disgrace! As well as an embarrassment to women. God I pity you!

On behalf of the few OzPol girls who are left I would like to apologise to everyone on OzPol who has been on the receiving end of Methra's incessant insanity all over this website especially over the past few days but it might be a good idea to ignore her ridiculous and illogical rants and just report her to Freediver who will no doubt once again give her a much needed break. Cheers


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Reply #1274 - Dec 9th, 2022 at 8:17am
 
Congratulations Lisa. You successfully evidenced that i have also posted on another thread this morning.

Did you have to practice to learn how to do that?
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