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Captain Nemo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9783 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Trial of Brittany Higgins's alleged rapist begins Reply #435 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 12:19pm Zero physical evidence of anything taking place. There must be reasonable doubt.
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Re: Trial of Brittany Higgins's alleged rapist begins
Reply #436 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 12:39pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 25^th, 2022 at 6:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 25^th, 2022 at 6:28pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 25^th, 2022 at 6:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 25^th, 2022 at 4:06pm:

In tells ya.....you cannot give three/four entirely different explanations for being right at the scene of an alleged crime and right at the time it is alleged to have occurred and expect to be believed by all of 12 people who are deciding on your credibility.

I went to my office to have a nightcap.
And to collect my keys.
And to look over some notes while there for tomorrow.

GUILTY!!!!!!

And 'tomorrow' was a Saturday, not a Sitting Day.....and....he takes a pissed female with him....and leaves her there after leaving 'hurriedly.'

None of which proves sexual activity took place.

Of course it doesn't....ALONE.......by ITSELF!

But, it does add to the weight of the OTHER evidence against him.

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Re: Trial of Brittany Higgins's alleged rapist begins
Reply #438 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 12:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 9:42am:

Fat, white, old men still defending alleged rapists rather than taking the word of the woman.

The woman is always lying, and the man is always the victim.

Would it be the same if it was their daughter?

Not this same lunatic ranting spam again! Groggy lay off the drugs!

Unlike you bozo some of us really do have daughters AND sons! I would not want MY son going to prison on the say so of a woman who was too drunk to know WTF happened to her!

There's simply NO OTHER EVIDENCE! And I'm stating this based on what the media has revealed to us about the matter.

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11571 Gender:	Re: Trial of Brittany Higgins's alleged rapist begins Reply #439 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 12:57pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 9:42am: Would it be the same if it was their daughter? How would Greggary know? He hasn't had kids. How would a family feel if it was their son accused?
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Re: Trial of Brittany Higgins's alleged rapist begins
Reply #440 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 1:03pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 25^th, 2022 at 11:10pm:

**SNIP***

As I made clear from Day One - under ACT law which governs legal issued inside PH that are not directly covered by Federal law - if any of you bothered to check - an inebriated woman cannot give consent......

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The argument from the defence is that no sexual activity took place at all.

That's right!

The other argument is this: Brittany was too drunk to know wtf was going on and thus too drunk to give consent BUT she wasn't too drunk to remember everything that happened!

That there is the big problem for Brittany. And Brittany waited for weeks before she acted on what she 'remembered'. For all we know it was the security guard who may well have done something to her. Even then he may have simply covered her and/or closed the door.

This is why YOU need to take responsibility for YOUR safety! Don't expect others to do that for you because they won't!

Anyway .. no decision. I keep saying on the admissible evidence presented in court ... the guy is innocent until proven guilty and the burden of proof is BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT.

Right now ALL we have is DOUBT! Doubt is HERE on OzPol and doubt is THERE with the jury.

From the outset I stated that on the basis of the information we've been allowed to see via the MSM...I cannot see a conviction. That view has not changed.

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Re: Trial of Brittany Higgins's alleged rapist begins
Reply #441 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 1:08pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 12:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 9:42am:

Would it be the same if it was their daughter?

1. How would Greggary know? He hasn't had kids.

2. How would a family feel if it was their son accused?

1. Groggy IS a kid <--- 2nd childhood issues (He's an old unemployed lonely codger these days).

2. If it was my son I'd be so frightened for him. He could well be facing a criminal conviction and jail sentence for having done nothing at all.

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Reply #442 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 1:09pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 12:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 9:42am:

Fat, white, old men still defending alleged rapists rather than taking the word of the woman.

The woman is always lying, and the man is always the victim.

Would it be the same if it was their daughter?

Not this same lunatic ranting spam again! Groggy lay off the drugs!

Unlike you bozo some of us really do have daughters AND sons! I would not want MY son going to prison on the say so of a woman who was too drunk to know WTF happened to her!

There's simply NO OTHER EVIDENCE! And I'm stating this based on what the media has revealed to us about the matter.

No matter how drunk a woman gets, it's not an invitation for rape.

Pretty sad that this needs to be said Roll Eyes

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Re: Trial of Brittany Higgins's alleged rapist begins
Reply #443 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 1:10pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 12:41pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 12:19pm:

Zero physical evidence of anything taking place.

There must be reasonable doubt.

Why do you pretend that Higgins never swore she was raped?

Why do you pretend that Lehrmann has never, under oath, denied her allegations?

Who's pretending Aussie?

Those very facts go against Brittany.

How the frack can she swear ANYTHING on oath? She was blind drunk ffs!

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Re: Trial of Brittany Higgins's alleged rapist begins
Reply #444 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 1:14pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 12:41pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 12:19pm:

Zero physical evidence of anything taking place.

There must be reasonable doubt.

Why do you pretend that Higgins never swore she was raped?

Why do you pretend that Lehrmann has never, under oath, denied her allegations?

I said Zero physical evidence.

I am saying without that evidence there must be reasonable doubt as to the guilt of the accused.

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Re: Trial of Brittany Higgins's alleged rapist begins
Reply #445 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 1:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 1:09pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 12:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 9:42am:

Fat, white, old men still defending alleged rapists rather than taking the word of the woman.

The woman is always lying, and the man is always the victim.

Would it be the same if it was their daughter?

Not this same lunatic ranting spam again! Groggy lay off the drugs!

Unlike you bozo some of us really do have daughters AND sons! I would not want MY son going to prison on the say so of a woman who was too drunk to know WTF happened to her!

There's simply NO OTHER EVIDENCE! And I'm stating this based on what the media has revealed to us about the matter.

No matter how drunk a woman gets, it's not an invitation for rape.

Pretty sad that this needs to be said Roll Eyes

It's pretty lame that YOU think it needs to be said.

We've all moved on from that basic point. And we all did that when the topic STARTED ffs!

You on the other hand must be drunk as a skunk right now because you can't see to move on! In fact you're still stuck on repeat like a broken record!

Whilst here ...could you exercise some self control and stop self projecting about angry old white men please? We are quite aware that YOU are THAT angry old white man.

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Re: Trial of Brittany Higgins's alleged rapist begins
Reply #446 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 1:17pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 1:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 1:09pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 12:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 9:42am:

Fat, white, old men still defending alleged rapists rather than taking the word of the woman.

The woman is always lying, and the man is always the victim.

Would it be the same if it was their daughter?

Not this same lunatic ranting spam again! Groggy lay off the drugs!

Unlike you bozo some of us really do have daughters AND sons! I would not want MY son going to prison on the say so of a woman who was too drunk to know WTF happened to her!

No matter how drunk a woman gets, it's not an invitation for rape.

Pretty sad that this needs to be said Roll Eyes

It's pretty lame that YOU think it needs to be said.

We've all moved on from that basic point. And we all did that when the topic STARTED ffs!

All except you - you're the one who just mentioned it.
Dear oh dear Roll Eyes

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Reply #447 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 1:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 1:09pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 12:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 9:42am:

Fat, white, old men still defending alleged rapists rather than taking the word of the woman.

The woman is always lying, and the man is always the victim.

Would it be the same if it was their daughter?

Not this same lunatic ranting spam again! Groggy lay off the drugs!

Unlike you bozo some of us really do have daughters AND sons! I would not want MY son going to prison on the say so of a woman who was too drunk to know WTF happened to her!

There's simply NO OTHER EVIDENCE! And I'm stating this based on what the media has revealed to us about the matter.

No matter how drunk a woman gets, it's not an invitation for rape.

Pretty sad that this needs to be said Roll Eyes

You are assuming that a rape happened.

There is no proof of that happening.

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Re: Trial of Brittany Higgins's alleged rapist begins
Reply #448 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 1:23pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 1:08pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 12:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 9:42am:

Would it be the same if it was their daughter?

1. How would Greggary know? He hasn't had kids.

2. How would a family feel if it was their son accused?

1. Groggy IS a kid <--- 2nd childhood issues (He's an old unemployed lonely codger these days).

2. If it was my son I'd be so frightened for him. He could well be facing a criminal conviction and jail sentence for having done nothing at all.

He definitely reads like he has no kids.

If he had, it would have occurred to him that his family argument 'gotcha' cuts both ways.

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Re: Trial of Brittany Higgins's alleged rapist begins
Reply #449 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 1:25pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 1:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 1:09pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 12:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 9:42am:

Fat, white, old men still defending alleged rapists rather than taking the word of the woman.

The woman is always lying, and the man is always the victim.

Would it be the same if it was their daughter?

Not this same lunatic ranting spam again! Groggy lay off the drugs!

Unlike you bozo some of us really do have daughters AND sons! I would not want MY son going to prison on the say so of a woman who was too drunk to know WTF happened to her!

There's simply NO OTHER EVIDENCE! And I'm stating this based on what the media has revealed to us about the matter.

No matter how drunk a woman gets, it's not an invitation for rape.

Pretty sad that this needs to be said Roll Eyes

You are assuming that a rape happened.

There is no proof of that happening.

I didn't say anyone was raped.

Read it again:

No matter how drunk a woman gets, it's not an invitation for rape.

It's a shame Lisa doesn't understand this.

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