UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 16^th, 2022 at 7:57pm:


Let's see it then.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16^th, 2022 at 8:04pm:


You missed the rest of the statement that you conveniently redacted.

Aussie wrote on Oct 16^th, 2022 at 8:17pm:


Higgins allegedly made a rape complaint against Lehrmann in the days after the rape was alleged to have been committed. She later withdrew the complaint in the following April -- 3 weeks later. February 15, 2020, Higgins makes the announcement that she will be taking the matter up with police.

At least 10 months pass before she makes a formal complaint to police (for which she has not since withdrawn). That is about 10 months too long to make a complaint to anyone. Given that the security could have verified the whereabouts of Lehrmann being with Higgins at the time. Given that DNA tests could have been conducted on the couch to show who was where at the time of March 22 in Parliament House. Security footage could have been obtained by March 23rd, before they were mysteriously 'erased'.

Let us just either consider that Higgins had bungled up a potential "slam dunk" investigation because of her own incompetence, or concern about her career. Otherwise, we can conclude that Lehrmann is an innocent victim of a false rape allegation.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16^th, 2022 at 7:19pm:

I haven't seen any forum members actively "condoning" rape Greg.

What we are questioning is Higgins' possible fabrication of her
rape story, which at this stage is totally without one iota of supporting
evidence; even circumstantial.

Lisa Wilkinson, the well-known media whore, effectively judged and
condemned Lehrmann as a rapist, and unquestioningly accepted
Higgins' story at face value.  Which is why people were calling for
Wilkinson to be charged with contempt of court.

If you'd care too, can you cite some member comments that are
specifically condoning rape?

As an aside, at this point in the Higgins case, surely the phrase "sexual
assault" should be used—rather than the emotive trigger word "rape"?

Aussie wrote on Oct 17^th, 2022 at 8:12pm:

Not so.  The fact that she was allegedly found naked does not in any way,
shape or form prove that she was raped.

Aussie wrote on Oct 17^th, 2022 at 8:12pm:

Again, not so.  Higgins has presented zero evidence supporting her allegation.

Now I have a funny way of looking at things.... and you knooooow how much absolute respect I have for former Army Reserve Generals in support service areas ........... but riddle me this.......... if there was no suggestion of any criminal wrongdoing, apart from some breach of security which astounds me still because if it was why were the security staff not online with it.... then why would Brittany Higgins need or want counselling, as stated by Reynolds today in her testimony?

Tell you what - we'll leave that one for the moment....

Now - if there was a security breach that demanded the sacking of one staff member.... and that security breach was by two staff members.... why was there any difference in treatment and handling?  General?  Why was the man sacked and the woman offered counselling if she wanted it  - for a breach of security?

If there was indeed a breach of security....... why then were they allowed into the offices at all??

Might it not be more reasonable to suggest that the 'security breach' was a cover for something more serious reported to you?  And that there was no genuine security breach under the then rules?

So what was the reason for the sacking, General?

(ain't I a bastard?)....................

P.S.  Maybe the dork did it... I have no way of knowing..... but if he did...... he deserves a good kick in the arse... if not - she deserves a good kick in the arse.... and if it was a campaign to become a new Joan of Arc and be elected on a rush of emotion.... it's not working....

mothra wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 5:32am:


You assume her innocence just like Lisa, nothing of what she has been saying in court can be substatiated and no one is backing her up, proceedings are due to be wrapped up this friday weeks before the allocated time given. She was drunk as a skunk in the wrong place at the wrong time and and cried rape to save her job, the bloke that has been accused of rape has had his life destroyed, that's my opinion just as you have yours, go and be as sick as you like.

mothra wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 6:11am:


Her, who got so pissed she could barely stand up and made a decision to accompany him to the office.

Neither of this pair come out of this looking good. Did they have sex? Probably. Was it consensual? Who knows? There is a chance that the court may find she was too drunk to give informed consent.

There is certainly a possibility that Higgins was raped. There is also a possiblilty that she woke up with a raging hangover and thought "What the f-k did I do that for?" and there is another possibility that no sex happened at all.

As I have said, no one comes out of this looking good.