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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11913 Armidale Gender:	Re: Fraser Island formally named K'gari Reply #120 - Oct 6^th, 2022 at 3:04am Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 9:09pm: So speak it that then. It's spelt, in English FASER ISLAND. I just spoke it. You heard me. And I said FASER ISLAND as well.
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Reply #121 - Oct 6^th, 2022 at 4:40am

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 3:47pm:

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Poor, poor, Aqua, weren't you consulted? Was that because you weren't a member of the local community, which backs the move to a old name? You need to climb down off your "alpha" high horse and rejoin the rest of Australian society. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Well I'm a member of that community & I can tell you that most people won't be calling it K'Gari ...

it will still be Fraser Is. or just Fraser.

Whilst the traditional name is spelt with a "K" ... & the K was always pronounced ....

the activists(many of whom do not live in this community) are now saying the "K" is silent and the name is pronounced "Garee".

Never mind there was no written language, now there's silent letters in front of names. Grin

Local timber producers Hyne & Son operated a timber barge between Fraser Island, up the Mary River to their Maryborough sawmill for decades it's name was K'Gari ....... the K was always pronounced.

A local Real Estate agent whose family I know very well secured an area of land for residential development at the seaside village of Boonooroo in the 70's. He consulted with local Aboriginals regarding the naming of streets and of note was the one given Fraser Islands Aboriginal name ...

and it was spelt "Kougari" and pronounced as Koogaree.

The whole exercise behind changing the name & it's pronunciation is an appeasing guilt trip & race based wank.

There are so many more important issues confronting Aboriginal Australians ......

like a statistic of 67% non attendance rate of school age children & teens from schools nationally.

Education is key to them changing their circumstances but all the luvvy lefties don't give a shyte about that....

just full of symbolic tokenism like this.

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Re: Fraser Island formally named K'gari
Reply #122 - Oct 6^th, 2022 at 4:52am

chimera wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 4:05pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 3:41pm:

encouraging the aborigine to reconnect with his awesome roots and develop self reliance is what will see him back in an upward spiral

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This week marked an important milestone for the Butchulla Aboriginal Corporation – which has been campaigning to change the name of Queensland’s Fraser Island to its traditional name, K’Gari (pronounced “Gurri”), for decades.

The Queensland Government confirmed it has officially changed the island’s name to its Aboriginal name, which means “paradise” in Butchulla language.

It has only been pronounced "Gurri" in very recent times.

Prior to that local Badtjala pronounced it with the K.

And Badtjala language has had to be reinvented because it had been lost.

If they are going to go by traditional names then they have to cease calling themselves Butchulla ... that's an Anglicanised version ....

they are Badjala, Badjula, Badjela, Bajellah, Badtjala or Budjilla.

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Reply #123 - Oct 6^th, 2022 at 4:52am

Gnads wrote on Oct 6^th, 2022 at 4:40am:

Education is key to them changing their circumstances but all the luvvy lefties don't give a shyte about that....
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Knowing about their country language gives them self-worth. Original place names also does which is why they ask for that. The change in that circumstance promotes positive actions such as education.

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Reply #124 - Oct 6^th, 2022 at 4:55am

Frank wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 4:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 3:33pm:

Fraser Island expected to be formally named K'gari as community consultation ends Cool

The general manager of the Butchulla Aboriginal Corporation, Chantel Van Wamelen, said the title change was a restoration, rather than a renaming.

"It's always been known as K'gari to us and it's about the truth-telling too," she said.

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Is that the original Butchulla spelling of K'gari (pron gurri)?

Is 'Chantel Van Wamelen' an original Butchulla Aboriginal name? Is that the traditional owners' original spelling of her name? What does it mean in Butchulla?

The Van Wamelens were a family of Dutch origin from Maryborough who fostered/adopted several Aboriginal children in the 60's & 70's.

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Reply #125 - Oct 6^th, 2022 at 4:59am

random wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 4:11pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 4:07pm:

Is 'Chantel Van Wamelen' an original Aboriginal name? Is that the traditional owners' original spelling of her name?

I suspect her mother was raped by a Dutchman. Rape was what happened after all the men were shot. How else were all the mixed race children created? Did you think is was from romantic love matches?

What a racist ignorant khunt you are Frank.

What a lying, making it up khunt you are ....

The Van Wamelens were a well respected Dutch family in Maryborough.....they weren't rapists ... they were foster carers & adopted Aboriginal children.

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Reply #126 - Oct 6^th, 2022 at 5:02am

chimera wrote on Oct 6^th, 2022 at 4:52am:

Gnads wrote on Oct 6^th, 2022 at 4:40am:

Education is key to them changing their circumstances but all the luvvy lefties don't give a shyte about that....
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Knowing about their country language gives them self-worth. Original place names also does which is why they ask for that. The change in that circumstance promotes positive actions such as education.

Bullshyte - they don't attend education.

And the education they need is not about having Fraser Island renamed K'Gari

it's reading, writing, arithmetic education that gets them into the workplace & changes their circumstances.

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Reply #127 - Oct 6^th, 2022 at 5:06am

random wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 4:24pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 4:17pm:

random wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 4:11pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 4:07pm:

Is 'Chantel Van Wamelen' an original Aboriginal name? Is that the traditional owners' original spelling of her name?

I suspect her mother was raped by a Dutchman. Rape was what happened after all the men were shot. How else were all the mixed race children created? Did you think is was from romantic love matches?

What a racist ignorant khunt you are Frank.

If so, why does she keep the name? Why does she have a white man's name?

That's how white men attempt to erase the Aboriginal culture. Stop them using their names, stop them speaking their language and convert them to Christianity while the priests farrkkk the children.

But I suspect that it's easier for her to get a job with that name. Racist khunts filter out all the non-anglo names when the applications are received.

Do I have to school you in everything you dumb khunt?

You're the only dumb khunt here.

You know phukkall ... just keep making up lefty wank lies.

Are you shytty no Priest ever phukked you so you could get on the compo gravy train? Grin

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29956 Gender:	Re: Fraser Island formally named K'gari Reply #128 - Oct 6^th, 2022 at 5:08am random wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 4:34pm: Frank wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 4:32pm: So she keeps a white rapist's name as her own to upset other whites?? Is that the old "Butchulla revenge? https://c.tenor.com/u0Eoa2CkXBcAAAAC/yep-nod.gif Idiot
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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29956 Gender:	Re: Fraser Island formally named K'gari Reply #129 - Oct 6^th, 2022 at 5:11am Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 6:30pm: Perhaps rave-on could explain to us how a surname is passed down to a child of rape??????????? That's a hard one, eh? Graps ... there was no raping by the Van Wamelens.
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Re: Fraser Island formally named K'gari
Reply #130 - Oct 6^th, 2022 at 5:11am

K'Gari.
Many Indigenous languages abbreviate sounds in everyday speech. It's like 'the Gong' for Wollongong, 'Maccas' for McDonalds'.
So, Narragunnawali is from the language of the Ngunnawal people of Canberra and defines them.
Anaiwan / Nganyaywana people. Anaiwan / Nganyaywana language (D24) (NSW SH56-09).
For a long time Anēwan was regarded as unable to fit into the known Australian patterns of language. The seeming irregularity was caused by initial consonant loss in over 100 cognate terms between Anēwan and other languages and dialects of the region. The Ng is often silent.

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29956 Gender:	Re: Fraser Island formally named K'gari Reply #131 - Oct 6^th, 2022 at 5:12am random wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 6:36pm: Gordon wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 6:35pm: When I got 4x4ing on Fraser Island , can I still use a dirty great big boongbar? https://c.tenor.com/DZmDkbi5otAAAAAd/filthy-frank-butthurt.gif Still advertising your toothpaste I see.
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Reply #132 - Oct 6^th, 2022 at 5:18am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 8:20pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 8:03pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 7:00pm:

Ooooh, look - the Brittany Higgins case is on ... interesting - original statement that the woke up with him on top of her, has become she woke up with him raping her.... first statement never mentioned penetration.

I smell coaching and maybe a little word-changing...

Could you kindly tell us exactly what this has to do with the
renaming of Fraser Island to K'gari? Or is it simply a feeble
excuse to jump on your personal, hateful high horse?

I'm sure we'd all appreciate it if you could cease derailing
threads on this forum—as you've done repeatedly in the past.

Thank you.

He's literal human garbage, glad some lefty woman got put in her place, and raped

She was working for your RW scum ... you dickhead.

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Re: Fraser Island formally named K'gari
Reply #133 - Oct 6^th, 2022 at 5:20am

Sophia wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 11:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 4^th, 2022 at 3:33pm:

Fraser Island expected to be formally named K'gari as community consultation ends Cool

I like the sound of that name.
It takes time to remember… like with Ayers/Uluṟu.

I’m wondering… whilst Queensland support aboriginal renaming…
Here in Vic it’s pulling away from aboriginal names!
I’m absolutely against this taking away the aboriginal name of our hospital ….

https://7news.com.au/news/vic/daniel-andrews-plan-to-rename-maroondah-hospital-a...

“The short story is Mr Andrews wants to rename Maroondah Hospital to Queen Elizabeth II hospital.

Maroondah is a local Wurundjeri Woi-wurrung word meaning throwing of leaves. For some in the community, they found the replacement of an Indigenous-named hospital with that of our beloved late Queen a step too far.”

It's still Ayres Rock to me &

Fraser Island is still Fraser Island.

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Reply #134 - Oct 6^th, 2022 at 5:26am

Gnads wrote on Oct 6^th, 2022 at 5:02am:

chimera wrote on Oct 6^th, 2022 at 4:52am:

Knowing about their country language gives them self-worth. Original place names also does which is why they ask for that. The change in that circumstance promotes positive actions such as education.

Bullshyte - they don't attend education.

And the education they need is not about having Fraser Island renamed K'Gari

it's reading, writing, arithmetic education that gets them into the workplace & changes their circumstances.

So a way to improve education is opposed because they don't attend.
You don't really want it but just oppose them.

Indigenous Australian students' self-concept might help to identify constructs that could facilitate Indigenous Australians' well-being and educational outcomes including academic accomplishments .
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