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Reply #30 - Oct 13^th, 2022 at 9:46pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 8:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 6:19pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 5:48pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 10^th, 2022 at 8:37pm:

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Today, we released an analysis on COVID-19 mRNA vaccines the public needs to be aware of. This analysis showed an increased risk of cardiac-related death among men 18-39. FL will not be silent on the truth.

https://twitter.com/FLSurgeonGen/status/1578515633159180289?cxt=HHwWgsDUrdzmgegr...

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Guidance for mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines
October 7, 2022

The Florida Department of Health (Department) conducted an analysis through a self-controlled case series, which is a technique originally developed to evaluate vaccine safety. This studied mortality risk following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination. This analysis found there is an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination.

The State Surgeon General now recommends against the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines for males ages 18-39 years old.

Individuals and health care providers should also be aware that this analysis1 found:
• Males over the age of 60 had a 10% increased risk of cardiac-related death within 28 days of
mRNA vaccination.
• Non-mRNA vaccines were not found to have these increased risks among any population

The Department continues to stand by its Guidance for Pediatric COVID-19 Vaccines issued March
2022, which recommends against use in healthy children and adolescents 5 years old to 17 years old.
This now includes recommendations against COVID-19 vaccination among infants and children under
5 years old, which has since been issued under Emergency Use Authorization.

https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/20221007-guidance-mr...

Australian Bureau of Statistics data showed a 99.9% survival rate for those under 60 up to Delta variant when our vaccination rate was below 30%.

I guess the internet experts will disagree with the Florida surgeon general and take Lisa Wilkinsons advice

Looks like the Florida surgeon gereneral is right.

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Todd Woodbridge survives heart attack and issues urgent health warning - after Shane Warne, Darren Lehmann and other top Australian athletes suffered major cardiac incidents around same age

Super fit Australian tennis champion Todd Woodbridge has encouraged people to get a health check after suffering a heart attack last week.

The 51-year-old commentator who won 16 grand slam doubles titles with doubles partner Mark Woodforde has described the incident as a 'wake-up call' of the hidden dangers even for the fittest of middle-aged people.

At 51, Woodbridge is a year younger than Shane Warne when he had his fatal attack while a slew of other Australian sports figures have had heart attacks around that same age.

'It was last Thursday, I tried to keep my routine having travelled to the US Open and London and I was just exercising and had chest pains and every symptom when you look up Google – full sweats and I felt awful,' Woodbridge told the Herald.

'I had a little heart episode that goes down as a mild heart attack which is a bit of a shock to me.

'I consider (I) lead a pretty good fit healthy lifestyle – I keep active, I eat well, I do all the right things, I enjoy doing that.

'It's been a wake-up call to me to make sure I look after myself. If it can happen to me it shows that it can happen to anybody.'

The event is the latest in a disturbing spate of heart attacks bringing down high profile Aussie athletes in their early 50s.

Cricket icon Shane Warne was 52 when he was found unresponsive in his luxury villa in Thailand after suffering a heart attack.

Just days later, former AFL star Dean Wallis, 52, suffered a major heart attack but survived the scare after he was rushed to hospital for life-saving surgery.

WA cricket great Ryan Campbell, 50, is also lucky to be alive after he was given just a seven per cent chance of survival after a cardiac arrest in April.

In May, West Coast Eagles premiership player Peter Matera, 53, suffered a heart attack while he was chopping wood on his property in Victoria. The AFL great was rushed to hospital where doctors put two stents placed in his heart.

Former Australian cricket coach Darren Lehman also survived a heart attack in the early hours of his 50th birthday - and was thankfully saved by a triple bypass surgery.

'I'd urge anybody out there coming off the last couple of years (of lockdowns), where we've gone, nah I'm OK, haven't been to doctors, haven't had check ups, to ensure you get out there and do that.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-11309437/Todd-Woodbridge-heart-...

All vaxxed to the max with the clot shot.

Absolutely nothing unusual about fit athletes (and non-athletes) having heart attacks in their 50s.

healthy 15 yo's having heart attacks and myocarditis !! Since when ??

Myocarditis is well known with MRNA vax for some reason males are 10x more likely than females to get it with younger people being higher risk.

The FL SG was right to advise younger men and kids to avoid it

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Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Reply #31 - Oct 13^th, 2022 at 10:31pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 9:46pm:

Myocarditis is well known with MRNA vax for some reason males are 10x more likely than females to get it with younger people being higher risk.

That Florida “analysis” on COVID vaccines is—you guessed it—total garbage

Experts roundly dubbed the analysis "utter rubbish," "extremely misleading," and "comically bad." Some called the analysis method "terrible," and one epidemiologist called it "the absolute most batshit study design & analysis plan I have ever seen." Others noted that the conclusion "smells of p-hacking" and data cherry-picking.

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Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Reply #32 - Oct 13^th, 2022 at 10:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 10:31pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 9:46pm:

Myocarditis is well known with MRNA vax for some reason males are 10x more likely than females to get it with younger people being higher risk.

That Florida “analysis” on COVID vaccines is—you guessed it—total garbage

Experts roundly dubbed the analysis "utter rubbish," "extremely misleading," and "comically bad." Some called the analysis method "terrible," and one epidemiologist called it "the absolute most batshit study design & analysis plan I have ever seen." Others noted that the conclusion "smells of p-hacking" and data cherry-picking.

Grin

Epidemiologists and public health experts spent the past weekend collectively shaking their heads at the latest harmful pronouncement from Florida's provocative surgeon general, Joseph Ladapo, who on Friday announced that he was recommending against mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines for men ages 18 to 39.

Ladapo based his recommendation on a dubious analysis, which was posted online by the Florida Department of Health. According to a misleading press release from the department, the analysis found "an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination."

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Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Reply #33 - Oct 14^th, 2022 at 6:26am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 10:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 10:31pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 9:46pm:

Myocarditis is well known with MRNA vax for some reason males are 10x more likely than females to get it with younger people being higher risk.

That Florida “analysis” on COVID vaccines is—you guessed it—total garbage

Experts roundly dubbed the analysis "utter rubbish," "extremely misleading," and "comically bad." Some called the analysis method "terrible," and one epidemiologist called it "the absolute most batshit study design & analysis plan I have ever seen." Others noted that the conclusion "smells of p-hacking" and data cherry-picking.

Grin

Epidemiologists and public health experts spent the past weekend collectively shaking their heads at the latest harmful pronouncement from Florida's provocative surgeon general, Joseph Ladapo, who on Friday announced that he was recommending against mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines for men ages 18 to 39.

Ladapo based his recommendation on a dubious analysis, which was posted online by the Florida Department of Health. According to a misleading press release from the department, the analysis found "an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination."

Cheesy

incorrect.

our politicians and chief health officers who for 2 years banged on about jabs in arms will end this , now freely admit they were wrong and in fact , now say, even if you test positive, do what you want.

lol

dont be getting up the consistent people in florida who have a lower death rate then california and new york DESPITE having the oldest population in the USA.

have a look at the inconsistent goal post shifting lying and propaganda from the left who have thoroughly screwed this up

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Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Reply #34 - Oct 14^th, 2022 at 8:07am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 14^th, 2022 at 6:26am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 10:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 10:31pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 13^th, 2022 at 9:46pm:

Myocarditis is well known with MRNA vax for some reason males are 10x more likely than females to get it with younger people being higher risk.

That Florida “analysis” on COVID vaccines is—you guessed it—total garbage

Experts roundly dubbed the analysis "utter rubbish," "extremely misleading," and "comically bad." Some called the analysis method "terrible," and one epidemiologist called it "the absolute most batshit study design & analysis plan I have ever seen." Others noted that the conclusion "smells of p-hacking" and data cherry-picking.

Grin

Epidemiologists and public health experts spent the past weekend collectively shaking their heads at the latest harmful pronouncement from Florida's provocative surgeon general, Joseph Ladapo, who on Friday announced that he was recommending against mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines for men ages 18 to 39.

Ladapo based his recommendation on a dubious analysis, which was posted online by the Florida Department of Health. According to a misleading press release from the department, the analysis found "an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination."

Cheesy

incorrect.

our politicians and chief health officers who for 2 years banged on about jabs in arms will end this , now freely admit they were wrong and in fact , now say, even if you test positive, do what you want.

lol

dont be getting up the consistent people in florida who have a lower death rate then california and new york DESPITE having the oldest population in the USA.

have a look at the inconsistent goal post shifting lying and propaganda from the left who have thoroughly screwed this up

Oh look more lies from horseboy, who has the nerve to call others liars,

What is it with you that you continually lie to try and make a point, you should be ashamed of yourself, you always get caught out, you still havent learned anything I see. Grin

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Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Reply #35 - Oct 14^th, 2022 at 10:35am

That Florida “analysis” on COVID vaccines is—you guessed it—total garbage

Experts roundly dubbed the analysis "utter rubbish," "extremely misleading," and "comically bad." Some called the analysis method "terrible," and one epidemiologist called it "the absolute most batshit study design & analysis plan I have ever seen." Others noted that the conclusion "smells of p-hacking" and data cherry-picking.

Oh dear.

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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14213 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine Reply #36 - Oct 15^th, 2022 at 7:23am Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 11^th, 2022 at 12:47pm: The back peddling is just beginning. Watch them all duck for cover and the blame games begin. You really DO live in a world of delusional fantasies , DON'T you * that wasn't a question .
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Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Reply #37 - Oct 21^st, 2022 at 8:24am

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 10^th, 2022 at 8:37pm:

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Today, we released an analysis on COVID-19 mRNA vaccines the public needs to be aware of. This analysis showed an increased risk of cardiac-related death among men 18-39. FL will not be silent on the truth.

https://twitter.com/FLSurgeonGen/status/1578515633159180289?cxt=HHwWgsDUrdzmgegr...

... and as such, we shall be quoting the one in one thousand 'mavericks' keen to stand outside of the - for all intent and purpose - mainstream consensus

Florida Senate confirms controversial Dr. Joseph Ladapo
as surgeon general,
on party lines

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/02/23/florida-senate-confirms-contr...

Why did all things COVID19 become a left/right issue ?

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Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Reply #38 - Oct 26^th, 2022 at 11:16pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 10^th, 2022 at 8:37pm:

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Today, we released an analysis on COVID-19 mRNA vaccines the public needs to be aware of. This analysis showed an increased risk of cardiac-related death among men 18-39. FL will not be silent on the truth.

https://twitter.com/FLSurgeonGen/status/1578515633159180289?cxt=HHwWgsDUrdzmgegr...

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Guidance for mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines
October 7, 2022

The Florida Department of Health (Department) conducted an analysis through a self-controlled case series, which is a technique originally developed to evaluate vaccine safety. This studied mortality risk following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination. This analysis found there is an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination.

The State Surgeon General now recommends against the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines for males ages 18-39 years old.

Individuals and health care providers should also be aware that this analysis1 found:
• Males over the age of 60 had a 10% increased risk of cardiac-related death within 28 days of
mRNA vaccination.
• Non-mRNA vaccines were not found to have these increased risks among any population

The Department continues to stand by its Guidance for Pediatric COVID-19 Vaccines issued March
2022, which recommends against use in healthy children and adolescents 5 years old to 17 years old.
This now includes recommendations against COVID-19 vaccination among infants and children under
5 years old, which has since been issued under Emergency Use Authorization.

https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/20221007-guidance-mr...

Australian Bureau of Statistics data showed a 99.9% survival rate for those under 60 up to Delta variant when our vaccination rate was below 30%.

I guess the internet experts will disagree with the Florida surgeon general and take Lisa Wilkinsons advice

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October 26, 2022

ATAGI didn’t know about heightened risk of myocarditis in young men until five months after Pfizer, Moderna approval

The Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation has revealed it did not know of heart risks until five months after approving vaccines for use.

The Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI) has revealed it did not know about the heightened risk of a heart condition called myocarditis from Covid vaccines until five months after they were approved for the public.

An updated document published by the health authority in late September has attracted serious attention this month — as it showed the side-effect was unknown to the group until May 2021.

The revelation raises questions over Australia’s vaccine mandates considering the risks associated with both Moderna and Pfizer jabs – which were highlighted by the health body.

The dossier points out the risk of heart issues in young males is higher with Moderna than with Pfizer.

“Pericarditis and myocarditis after Covid-19 vaccines have been mostly reported in males under 40 years of age, and mostly after the second dose,” it read.

“However, these conditions do occur in both females and males, at any age, and after any dose, including a third or fourth dose.

ATAGI now says it is “uncertain” whether the risk of myocarditis following Covid-19 infection remains higher than the risk following vaccination in the male 16-40 age group.

The AstraZeneca vaccine is also associated with an increased risk of myocarditis and pericarditis, however ATAGI says the risk “appears” lower than with Moderna or Pfizer.

ATAGI now says it did not know about the heightened risk of myocarditis from the Pfizer vaccine until May 2021.

The vaccine was provisionally approved for use on 25 January, 2021 – almost five months prior.

In 2021, Covid-19 vaccinations were mandatory to enter public spaces and still continue to be a requirement for employment in a number of sectors.

ATAGI is still conducting regular reviews of “emerging evidence” from the most accelerated vaccination rollout in history

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/atagi-didnt-know-about-heigh...

The Florida surgeon general was right again.

Moderna is worse than Pfizzer for heart troubles and that vaccine was more common in the US.

The vaccine mandates were bullshit we know the vaccines do nothing to prevent transmission.

The vaccine nazis were wrong and like pedophiles they want to stick their little pricks into your kids.

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Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Reply #39 - Oct 30^th, 2022 at 6:05pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 10:25am:

WWW search....

Astonishing Spike In Post-Vaccine Deaths Gets No Media Coverage As Over 2,000 Reported THIS WEEK Alone

To "google" something is not the hard work you make it out to be

First up ...

Fact Check-VAERS data does not prove over 2,000 deaths due to COVID-19 vaccines in July 2021

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid19-vaers-idUSL1N2PB2H3

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Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Reply #40 - Oct 30^th, 2022 at 6:40pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 30^th, 2022 at 6:05pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 10:25am:

WWW search....

Astonishing Spike In Post-Vaccine Deaths Gets No Media Coverage As Over 2,000 Reported THIS WEEK Alone

To "google" something is not the hard work you make it out to be

First up ...

Fact Check-VAERS data does not prove over 2,000 deaths due to COVID-19 vaccines in July 2021

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid19-vaers-idUSL1N2PB2H3

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And let's not forget, Prashant Bhushan is an anti-vaxxer nut-job who spreads lies and misinformation.

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Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine
Reply #41 - Oct 30^th, 2022 at 8:01pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 30^th, 2022 at 6:05pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 12^th, 2022 at 10:25am:

WWW search....

Astonishing Spike In Post-Vaccine Deaths Gets No Media Coverage As Over 2,000 Reported THIS WEEK Alone

To "google" something is not the hard work you make it out to be

First up ...

Fact Check-VAERS data does not prove over 2,000 deaths due to COVID-19 vaccines in July 2021

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid19-vaers-idUSL1N2PB2H3

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reuters again Cheesy

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59148 Here Gender:	Re: Florida surgeon general on mrna vaccine Reply #44 - Oct 31^st, 2022 at 9:20pm There must be something in Florida's water. They seem to all be nutters.
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