Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16
th, 2022 at 12:59pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16
th, 2022 at 12:22pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 16
th, 2022 at 8:35am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16
th, 2022 at 8:09am:
AusGeoff wrote on Oct 24
th, 2022 at 12:27am:
Belgarion wrote on Oct 23
rd, 2022 at 6:46pm:
There should be no mention of Christmas before 01 December, on pain of violation by a very prickly piece of holly!
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Seriously, the commercial build up gets earlier every year and the magic wears off long before the day arrives.
I agree absolutely. For a start, being a lifelong atheist—who had Christmas
force fed to my by my conservative Christian family—I detest the so-called
"festive" season. One that celebrates the imagined, non-birth of someone
who in all likelihood never existed.
It's become an overcommercialised, crass, odious, marketer's wet dream that
for some reason sucks the plebs in to spending hundreds of dollars they don't
have on kid's cheap and nasty, nonbiodegradable plastic toys for $400 a hit.
I'll be mailing this out to all my enemies this year.....
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I don't participate in it at all.
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As it's a pagan based festival you (being godless and a pagan) should be celebrating it big time.
No, Christmas isn't a pagan festival - it's a festival commemorating the birth of Jesus Christ.
You're thinking of Saturnalia.
Some people mistakenly believe that Christmas originated from Saturnalia, but it didn't.
They just happen to be two festivals that are held at the same time of year.
A common mistake, but a mistake nonetheless.
Christmas has nothing to do with Saturn or Saturnalia. You need to go further back in time.
Its pagan roots are entrenched within the very ancient and abominable Baal - Sun god cult worship which is often referred to in the Old Testament of the Holy Bible.
If your link doesn't state this ....then keep Googling.
Edit : Your link DOES refer to the Sun god! That Sun god is/was Baal!
Re Baal : Baal has been revived by Neo-Pagan and Wiccan groups who often choose him as their personal deity in ritual worship.
The celebration of Christmas iS linked especially wrt the date ... to this pagan god. Back in ancient times our pagan ancestors gave presents to each other and cut down trees and celebrated the birth of the sun god in order to please him.
True Christians know all this....but what can we do?
Some Christians have re defined the day to reflect on the birth of Jesus Christ knowing full well it wasn't the day at all. It was most likely in March. Other Christians ignore the day and treat it like any other. These Christians tend to be very adamant about not participating in a pagan festival.
On 25 Dec - I'm happy to host a bbq for family and friends. It's a public holiday so that means it's a great opportunity to do this as more people will be off work and can therefore attend.
Re presents : I buy/give presents to people on THEIR birthday AND whenever I find something on sale which I know will be a blessing for them (something they need/have been looking for).
I never wait for the 25 December to give someone a present. Everyone who knows me in real time knows that's how I operate. As I find bargains throughout the year including December...I buy them and pass these through to family, friends and neighbours throughout the year. It makes them happy and it makes me happy.
How do you celebrate the 25th of December? Do you even celebrate anything on that day??
From Greg's link :
The festival of dies natalis solis invicti, ‘birthday of the unconquered sun’. The Philocalian calendar also states that December 25th was a Roman civil holiday honouring the cult of sol invicta. With its origins in Syria and the monotheistic cult of Mithras, sol invicta certainly has similarities to the worship of Jesus. The cult was introduced into the empire in AD 274 by Emperor Aurelian (214-275), who effectively made it a state religion, putting its emblem on Roman coins.
Sol invicta succeeded because of its ability to assimilate aspects of Jupiter and other deities into its figure of the Sun King, reflecting the absolute power of ‘divine’emperors. But despite efforts by later pagan emperors to control Saturnalia and absorb the festival into the official cult, the sol invicta ended up looking very much like the old Saturnalia. Constantine, the first Christian emperor, was brought up in the sol invicta cult, in what was by then already a predominantly monotheist empire: ‘It is therefore possible,’ says Dr Gwynn, ‘that Christmas was intended to replace this festival i