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Reply #15 - Oct 29th, 2022 at 10:30pm
 
The same UN who gave Saudi Arabia the chair on human rights.

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Reply #16 - Oct 29th, 2022 at 10:48pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 29th, 2022 at 10:30pm:
The same UN who gave Saudi Arabia the chair on human rights.



Why? In a word . . . OIL.

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Reply #17 - Oct 30th, 2022 at 8:50am
 
wombatwoody wrote on Oct 29th, 2022 at 3:31pm:
Dismantling Israel’s Illegal Occupation is a Sine Qua Non for Palestinian Right to Self-determination: Special Rapporteur on the Situation of Human Rights in oPt – Press Release



PRESS RELEASES
SPECIAL PROCEDURES
27 October 2022

Report (A/77/356)

NEW YORK (27 October 2022) – Israel’s occupation is illegal and indistinguishable from settler-colonialism, which must end as a pre-condition for the Palestinians to exercise their right to self-determination, the UN’s independent expert on the occupied Palestinian territory said today.

“For over 55 years, the Israeli military occupation has prevented the realisation of the right to self-determination of the Palestinian people, violating each component of that right and wilfully pursuing the “de-Palestinianisation” of the occupied territory,” said Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Palestinian Territory occupied since 1967, in a report to the General Assembly.


https://www.un.org/unispal/document/dismantling-israels-illegal-occupation-is-a-...



Israel blasts ‘unfit’ lawyer tapped to head UN probe into treatment of Palestinians
Last year Francesca Albanese said she hesitated to take on a project about Palestinian refugees as her ‘deeply held personal views could compromise [her] objectivity’

“In fact, the special rapporteur has even expressed concerns about her own personal views, which she said could compromise her objectivity when addressing the situation,” she said, adding that Israel therefore objected “in the strongest terms” to the appointment of Albanese to the “already one-sided mandate dedicated to delegitimizing and demonizing Israel.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-blasts-unfit-lawyer-tapped-to-head-un-probe...


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Reply #18 - Oct 30th, 2022 at 8:59am
 
Im sure when the Italian Mafia-Vatican starts genociding all Moslems (who no longer have an empire) like the Palestinians.

I'm sure they will be asking for Israeli help, rather than throwing stones. Wink
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Reply #19 - Oct 30th, 2022 at 12:27pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 29th, 2022 at 10:30pm:
The same UN who gave Saudi Arabia the chair on human rights.


Yes. The UN of course was crippled from the start by adopting the obsolete doctrine of absolute national sovereignty, as well as the absurd doctrine  of legal ("defensive") war, when the whole Charter of the UN was supposed to eradicate the scourge of war. 

Doc Evatt resisted adoption of the veto by members of the (so-called) "Security" (!) Council, but he was overruled.  Hence as many people have been killed in wars since WW2 as were killed in that war itself.

...and the UN hasn't been able to solve the Arab- Israel conflict.

As to "human rights" abuses, every nation commits them; the West particularly in the area of systemic economic abuse, leading to entrenched poverty in otherwise rich nations, in violation of UN HDHR article 23. 


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Reply #20 - Oct 30th, 2022 at 12:36pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 30th, 2022 at 8:50am:
wombatwoody wrote on Oct 29th, 2022 at 3:31pm:
Dismantling Israel’s Illegal Occupation is a Sine Qua Non for Palestinian Right to Self-determination: Special Rapporteur on the Situation of Human Rights in oPt – Press Release



PRESS RELEASES
SPECIAL PROCEDURES
27 October 2022

Report (A/77/356)

NEW YORK (27 October 2022) – Israel’s occupation is illegal and indistinguishable from settler-colonialism, which must end as a pre-condition for the Palestinians to exercise their right to self-determination, the UN’s independent expert on the occupied Palestinian territory said today.

“For over 55 years, the Israeli military occupation has prevented the realisation of the right to self-determination of the Palestinian people, violating each component of that right and wilfully pursuing the “de-Palestinianisation” of the occupied territory,” said Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Palestinian Territory occupied since 1967, in a report to the General Assembly.


https://www.un.org/unispal/document/dismantling-israels-illegal-occupation-is-a-...



Israel blasts ‘unfit’ lawyer tapped to head UN probe into treatment of Palestinians
Last year Francesca Albanese said she hesitated to take on a project about Palestinian refugees as her ‘deeply held personal views could compromise [her] objectivity’

“In fact, the special rapporteur has even expressed concerns about her own personal views, which she said could compromise her objectivity when addressing the situation,” she said, adding that Israel therefore objected “in the strongest terms” to the appointment of Albanese to the “already one-sided mandate dedicated to delegitimizing and demonizing Israel.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-blasts-unfit-lawyer-tapped-to-head-un-probe...


Israeli bias is fully exposed in wombatwoody's post:

"The Rejection of Arab Self-Determination: The Struggle for Palestine and the Roots of the Arab-Israeli Crisis, by Jeremy R. Hammond". #13.

https://www.palestinehome.org/history-of-palestine-annotated-1/history-the-un-pa...

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Reply #21 - Jun 15th, 2024 at 12:50pm
 
The US of course is trying to lay the blame for the present collapse in "peace" negotiations - which "everyone has agreed to" - on Hamas.

Hamas have every right to think stage 3 of the US -brokered plan won't ever be agreed to by Israel's RW government. 

In  other words, the US 3-stage plan: ie, ceasefire, hostage and prisoner swap, and establishment of 2-states -  is a fraud, without specifying  the actual date for the 3rd stage to be implemented (ie the now decades old UN res 242 which was always blocked by the US).
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Reply #22 - Jun 15th, 2024 at 1:12pm
 
The USA has been dishonest in all its dealings with the Palestinians.

This is just that latest example of the whole US administration acting as Israel's spokesperson and uttering only Israeli propaganda.
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Reply #23 - Jul 21st, 2024 at 8:20pm
 
ICJ Declares Israel's Occupation Illegal


by Jeremy R. Hammond


The International Court of Justice (ICJ) yesterday issued its advisory opinion in its case examining the legal consequences of Israel’s occupation of Palestinian territory, ruling that Israel’s persistent occupation and discriminatory policies have no legal justification and therefore violate international law.

The ICJ had already ruled in 2004 that all of the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, remained “occupied territories” under international law and therefore that Israel’s settlement regime and the separation wall it was constructing within the West Bank were illegal.

In that prior ruling, the ICJ, also known as the World Court, affirmed “the illegality of territorial acquisition resulting from the threat or use of force”.

That is a principle of international law emphasized in United Nations (UN) Security Council Resolution 242 from November 22, 1967, which in the wake of the June “Six Day War” legally required Israel to withdraw its forces to armistice lines drawn in 1949 after Zionist forces established the “Jewish state” of Israel by ethnically cleansing most of the Arab population from their homes in Palestine.

The ICJ’s ruling for the more recent case goes further than its 2004 judgment by concluding that Israel’s prolonged occupation of Palestinian territory is itself inherently illegal.

The ICJ case is formally an inquiry into the “Legal Consequences arising from the Policies and Practices of Israel in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem”, which the court opened at the request of the United Nations (UN) General Assembly in December 2022.

This case is separate from a pending case brought before the ICJ on December 29, 2023, by the government of South Africa, which charged Israel with violating the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (or the Genocide Convention) for its murderous military operation in the Gaza Strip ongoing since October 2023.

The US government under the administration of President Joe Biden has also violated the Genocide Convention for its complicity in Israel’s genocide.

On January 26, 2024, the ICJ ruled that Israel was perpetrating a plausible genocide in Gaza and called on Israel to comply with its obligations under the Genocide Convention; and on May 24, the court issued additional provisional measures ordering Israel to halt its military operation in the city Rafah in Gaza.

As with its January ruling, Israel proceeded to ignore the ICJ order on May 24.

While the ICJ is a UN body that has no authority to enforce its legal judgments, the prosecutor of the International Criminal Court (ICC), a separate body at the Hague in the Netherlands that was established independently from the UN by the Rome Statute in 1998, has concomitantly sought arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Yoav Gallant for “crimes against humanity”.

In its ruling issued yesterday, the ICJ determined that Israel’s continued occupation of Gaza and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, is “unlawful”, and that Israel is therefore obligated under international law to end its occupation “as rapidly as possible”.

Reaffirming its 2004 advisory opinion, the ICJ ruled that Israel “is under an obligation to cease immediately all new settlement activities, and to evacuate all settlers from the Occupied Palestinian Territory”.

Additionally, Israel is obligated “to make reparation for the damage caused to all the natural or legal persons concerned in the Occupied Palestinian Territory”.

The ICJ also emphasized the legal obligation of UN member states to not act complicitly in Israel’s illegal occupation.

That applies to the US government, which has long maintained a policy of supporting Israel’s crimes against the Palestinians, including by means of the US-led so-called “peace process”, which was always aimed at blocking implementation of the two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

The aim of the “peace process”, which was premised on a rejection of international law, is not to be confused with the two-state solution, which is premised on the applicability of international law to the conflict.

As another example of US complicity in Israel’s violations of international law, in 2017, the Donald Trump administration moved the State Department’s Israeli embassy from Tel Aviv to occupied Jerusalem, which was a violation of UN Security Council resolutions prohibiting UN member states from taking actions to prejudice Palestinians’ rights in the occupied territories, including East Jerusalem.

While a welcome development to those concerned with peace and justice, it is regrettable that it took until July 2024 for the world’s highest governmental authority on matters related to international law to explicitly inform the public that Israel has a legal obligation to immediately withdraw its military from the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem.


https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/2024/07/20/icj-declares-israels-occupation-illega...
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Reply #24 - Jul 21st, 2024 at 9:54pm
 
Israeli Jews don't even realize what a mess they created for themselves.

Once the ICJ Decision is promulgated in the UN countries will be bound to shun Israel and treat it as a pariah state until it complies with the ICJ ruling.

The US will not be able to help Israel out of this hole because any entities that help Israel commit crimes will themselves be guilty of the crime.

Israeli Jews with half a brain will be leaving Israel.

No rational investor will be investing money in Israel.
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Reply #25 - Jul 22nd, 2024 at 11:50pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 30th, 2022 at 12:27pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 29th, 2022 at 10:30pm:
The same UN who gave Saudi Arabia the chair on human rights.


Yes. The UN of course was crippled from the start by adopting the obsolete doctrine of absolute national sovereignty, as well as the absurd doctrine  of legal ("defensive") war, when the whole Charter of the UN was supposed to eradicate the scourge of war. 

Doc Evatt resisted adoption of the veto by members of the (so-called) "Security" (!) Council, but he was overruled.  Hence as many people have been killed in wars since WW2 as were killed in that war itself.

...and the UN hasn't been able to solve the Arab- Israel conflict.

As to "human rights" abuses, every nation commits them; the West particularly in the area of systemic economic abuse, leading to entrenched poverty in otherwise rich nations, in violation of UN HDHR article 23. 





The UN were happy to create a state of Palestine what happened there?

The Arabs invaded israel the day after it was created hoping to slaughter the jews.

Jordan controlled the West Bank from 1948-1967 why did the UN allow this?

Egypt controlled Gaza from 1948-1967 why did the UN allow this?

What is this highlighted Bullshit?
name on thing Palestinians have invented?
How does giving billions in aid to Palestinians lead to entrenched poverty, is it because their leaders steal that money?
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Reply #26 - Jul 23rd, 2024 at 12:33am
 
Bvr should clear the trash from his garage to make room for his ethnic group, Jewish refugees from Israel.

Hamas has defeated Israel. The unarmed defenseless women and children of Gaza will escort the Jewish refugees onto the boats and planes and speed their exit to their new homelands.

Israeli Jews have committed genocide on Judaism, Zionism, and the former state of Israel, soon to be Palestine..
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Reply #27 - Jul 24th, 2024 at 12:17pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 22nd, 2024 at 11:50pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 30th, 2022 at 12:27pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 29th, 2022 at 10:30pm:
The same UN who gave Saudi Arabia the chair on human rights.


Yes. The UN of course was crippled from the start by adopting the obsolete doctrine of absolute national sovereignty, as well as the absurd doctrine  of legal ("defensive") war, when the whole Charter of the UN was supposed to eradicate the scourge of war. 

Doc Evatt resisted adoption of the veto by members of the (so-called) "Security" (!) Council, but he was overruled.  Hence as many people have been killed in wars since WW2 as were killed in that war itself.

...and the UN hasn't been able to solve the Arab- Israel conflict.

As to "human rights" abuses, every nation commits them; the West particularly in the area of systemic economic abuse, leading to entrenched poverty in otherwise rich nations, in violation of UN HDHR article 23. 


The UN were happy to create a state of Palestine what happened there?

The Arabs invaded israel the day after it was created hoping to slaughter the jews.

Jordan controlled the West Bank from 1948-1967 why did the UN allow this?

Egypt controlled Gaza from 1948-1967 why did the UN allow this?


Didn't you read my post - I patiently explained WHY the UN was crippled from its inception, and hence can't prevent war as was envisioned in its Charter "to save mankind from the scourge of war".   

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What is this highlighted Bullshit?
name on thing Palestinians have invented?


You despise the UN for its acceptance of S.Arabia on the human rights council. 

I told you ALL countries ignore human rights when it accords with the economic or political interests of the ruling elites.

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How does giving billions in aid to Palestinians lead to entrenched poverty, is it because their leaders steal that money?


Your error: the aid prevents them from starving to death under the Israeli political and economic  stranglehold of the occupation.

But indeed corruption always exists when aid is used as a stop-gap to deal with economic dysfunction. 
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Reply #28 - Jul 24th, 2024 at 12:48pm
 
Tell the UN fantasists to go there and stand a watch.
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Reply #29 - Jul 24th, 2024 at 1:01pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 24th, 2024 at 12:48pm:
Tell the UN fantasists to go there and stand a watch.


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