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Reply #30 - Jul 24th, 2024 at 7:03pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 22nd, 2024 at 11:50pm:
The UN were happy to create a state of Palestine what happened there?



UN Resolution 181 neither partitioned Palestine nor conferred any legal authority to the Zionists for their unilateral declaration of Israel's existence.

There is a widely accepted belief that United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181 “created” Israel, based upon an understanding that this resolution partitioned Palestine or otherwise conferred legal authority or legitimacy to the declaration of the existence of the state of Israel. However, despite its popularity, this belief has no basis in fact, as a review of the resolution’s history and examination of legal principles demonstrates incontrovertibly.

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Reply #31 - Jul 24th, 2024 at 7:06pm
 
Palestine is real. Israel is a figment which is currently being dismembered by Israeli Jews.

Israeli Jews are murdering Judaism.
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Please don't thank me. Effusive fawning and obeisance of disciples, mendicants, and foot-kissers embarrass me.
 
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Reply #32 - Jul 24th, 2024 at 7:19pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 24th, 2024 at 7:06pm:
Palestine is real. Israel is a figment which is currently being dismembered by Israeli Jews.

Israeli Jews are murdering Judaism.



The thing about you, throbbo, is that there is NO conversation to be had with you.
You are the grusome Islamic Pallos writ small - no dialogue, no listening, no compromise, no nuffin.

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Reply #33 - Jul 24th, 2024 at 7:25pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 24th, 2024 at 7:19pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 24th, 2024 at 7:06pm:
Palestine is real. Israel is a figment which is currently being dismembered by Israeli Jews.

Israeli Jews are murdering Judaism.



The thing about you, throbbo, is that there is NO conversation to be had with you.
You are the grusome Islamic Pallos writ small - no dialogue, no listening, no compromise, no nuffin.



Is Frank surrendering?
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Reply #34 - Aug 20th, 2024 at 10:21pm
 
Don’t be fooled. The ruling by the International Court of Justice (ICJ) on 19 July that Israel’s occupation of Palestine is unlawful is earth-shattering. Israel is a rogue state, according to the world’s highest court.

For that reason, the judgment will be studiously ignored by the cabal of western states and their medias that for decades have so successfully run cover for Israel...

Western politicians and columnists will keep emphasising that the World Court is offering nothing more than an “advisory opinion” and one that is “non-binding”.

What they won’t point out is that this opinion is the collective view of the world’s most eminent judges on international law, the people best positioned to rule on the occupation’s legality.

And it is non-binding only because the western powers who control our international bodies plan to do nothing to implement a decision that doesn’t suit them.

Nonetheless, the ruling will have dramatic consequences for Israel, and its western patrons, even if those consequences will take months, years or even decades to play out...


Apartheid rule

The World Court’s ruling is most significant in that it permanently blows apart western states’ cover story about Israel.

The judges point out that Israel’s permanent occupation of the territories, and its transfer of Jewish settlers into them, has necessitated the development of two separate and distinct systems of laws.

One is for the Jewish settlers, enshrining for them the rights enjoyed by Israelis. Palestinians, by contrast, must submit to the whims of an alien and belligerent military regime.

There is a word for such an arrangement: apartheid.

Over the past decade, a consensus had already emerged in the world’s human rights community - from Amnesty International to Human Rights Watch - that Israel was an apartheid state.

Now the world’s highest judicial body has declared that it agrees.

Apartheid is a crime against humanity. This means that Israeli officials are war criminals, quite aside from the crimes they are currently committing in Gaza.

That was why the Israeli media reported panic inside the Israeli government at the ICJ ruling.

Officials fear that it will leave the International Criminal Court, its sister court, with no option but to issue arrest warrants against Netanyahu and his defence minister, Yoav Gallant, as already requested by its chief prosecutor.

It is also likely to strengthen the ICC’s resolve to prosecute more senior Israeli officials for crimes associated with Israel’s settlement programme.

A former Israeli foreign ministry official told the Haaretz newspaper that the World Court ruling had punctured Israel’s claim to be a western-style state: “The democratic aura is no longer protecting us as it did before."


https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/icj-clears-fog-hiding-western-support-isra...
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Reply #35 - Aug 20th, 2024 at 11:51pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 24th, 2024 at 7:06pm:
Palestine is real. Israel is a figment which is currently being dismembered by Israeli Jews.

Israeli Jews are murdering Judaism.


They're just extending the borders of Judea back to where they were....  always was Israeli land, always will be!!  From the River to the Sea, Judea will be free of Hamas and Hezbollah.  If it works for the Ozaborigines who never won a fight, it works for Israel....

When are you giving back your homes, you land claim luvvahs??  Been awful quiet since that shell hit your main magazine and up you went like the Hood...

That invaded by flea bearers court run by every backward nation on earth is about the lowest on earth, not the highest .... nationally courts hold sway over their own .... not some camel and yak jockey clearing house for ratbaggery ....sometimes a majority of one is the only correct position ....
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Reply #36 - Aug 21st, 2024 at 10:59am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 20th, 2024 at 11:51pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 24th, 2024 at 7:06pm:
Palestine is real. Israel is a figment which is currently being dismembered by Israeli Jews.

Israeli Jews are murdering Judaism.


They're just extending the borders of Judea back to where they were....  always was Israeli land, always will be!! 


Wrong as usual: Israel ceased to exist under the emperor  Hadrian, and all Jews were expelled from the land.

In 1947, the West-dominated UN voted to partition  Palestine, resulting in the birth of "Islamic terrorism". 


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From the River to the Sea, Judea will be free of Hamas and Hezbollah.  If it works for the Ozaborigines who never won a fight, it works for Israel....


Oz blacks have only got back 50% of the land; you want Israelis to get 100% of their former lands. 
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Reply #37 - Aug 21st, 2024 at 1:21pm
 
Actually some Jewish communities stayed in Israel, Judea and Samaria all the time.

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Reply #38 - Aug 21st, 2024 at 1:36pm
 
tallowood wrote on Aug 21st, 2024 at 1:21pm:
Actually some Jewish communities stayed in Israel, Judea and Samaria all the time.

https://i.ibb.co/dGrLYxL/palestine-demographics.png



The 4th century figures are misleading; the Christian Byzantines banished Jews from Jerusalem, even if a majority in 'Palestina'  were in fact Jews. 

In fact the conquering Caliph in the 7th century allowed Jews to return to Jerusalem.

But the point is: "Judea" - eradicated by Hadrian - ceased to belong to Jews, until the UN partitioned Palestine, allowing Jews to reclaim half of Palestine.

As for the illegal Jewish occupation: both Hamas and Netanyahu are war criminals sought by the ICC for war crimes, as noted by Senator Bernie Sanders (a Jew)  recently.        
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Reply #39 - Aug 21st, 2024 at 2:23pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 21st, 2024 at 1:36pm:
tallowood wrote on Aug 21st, 2024 at 1:21pm:
Actually some Jewish communities stayed in Israel, Judea and Samaria all the time.

https://i.ibb.co/dGrLYxL/palestine-demographics.png



The 4th century figures are misleading; the Christian Byzantines banished Jews from Jerusalem, even if a majority in 'Palestina'  were in fact Jews. 

In fact the conquering Caliph in the 7th century allowed Jews to return to Jerusalem.

But the point is: "Judea" - eradicated by Hadrian - ceased to belong to Jews, until the UN partitioned Palestine, allowing Jews to reclaim half of Palestine.

As for the illegal Jewish occupation: both Hamas and Netanyahu are war criminals sought by the ICC for war crimes, as noted by Senator Bernie Sanders (a Jew)  recently.        


According to Finkelstein and Broshi, the population of Palestine at the end of the eighth century BC was around 400,000. In the area of Judah in the central hills, Benjamin and Jerusalem, the population was approximately 110,000. By the early sixth century, Ofer's survey results suggest that around 100,000 lived in the kingdom of Judah, with the population in the central hills, Benjamin and Jerusalem about 69,000.
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Reply #40 - Aug 22nd, 2024 at 1:18pm
 
tallowood wrote on Aug 21st, 2024 at 2:23pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 21st, 2024 at 1:36pm:
tallowood wrote on Aug 21st, 2024 at 1:21pm:
Actually some Jewish communities stayed in Israel, Judea and Samaria all the time.

https://i.ibb.co/dGrLYxL/palestine-demographics.png



The 4th century figures are misleading; the Christian Byzantines banished Jews from Jerusalem, even if a majority in 'Palestina'  were in fact Jews. 

In fact the conquering Caliph in the 7th century allowed Jews to return to Jerusalem.

But the point is: "Judea" - eradicated by Hadrian - ceased to belong to Jews, until the UN partitioned Palestine, allowing Jews to reclaim half of Palestine.

As for the illegal Jewish occupation: both Hamas and Netanyahu are war criminals sought by the ICC for war crimes, as noted by Senator Bernie Sanders (a Jew)  recently.        


According to Finkelstein and Broshi, the population of Palestine at the end of the eighth century BC was around 400,000. In the area of Judah in the central hills, Benjamin and Jerusalem, the population was approximately 110,000. By the early sixth century, Ofer's survey results suggest that around 100,000 lived in the kingdom of Judah, with the population in the central hills, Benjamin and Jerusalem about 69,000.


And what has any of that to do with the fact Jews were a minority in Palestine during the British Mandate era, leading up to the UN Partition? 

And Israel's current illegal occupation of  the WB.
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Reply #41 - Aug 22nd, 2024 at 10:36pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 20th, 2024 at 11:51pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 24th, 2024 at 7:06pm:
Palestine is real. Israel is a figment which is currently being dismembered by Israeli Jews.

Israeli Jews are murdering Judaism.


They're just extending the borders of Judea back to where they were....  always was Israeli land 


Then explain this:

When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations—the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you— 2 and when the Lord your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally.[a] Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.

Deuteronomy 7:1-2

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Reply #42 - Aug 23rd, 2024 at 5:37am
 
wombatwoody wrote on Aug 22nd, 2024 at 10:36pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 20th, 2024 at 11:51pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 24th, 2024 at 7:06pm:
Palestine is real. Israel is a figment which is currently being dismembered by Israeli Jews.

Israeli Jews are murdering Judaism.


They're just extending the borders of Judea back to where they were....  always was Israeli land 


Then explain this:

When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations—the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you— 2 and when the Lord your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally.[a] Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.

Deuteronomy 7:1-2



... and Blaxie, Wentie and Lawsie went across the mountains (some now say with a native guide or something - Jesus - just take the easy way and follow the tracks - and how did they see them sweeping plains etc from Mt Victoria - or even get down... it was all trees - I suspect a lot of ball's chat is in our early histories here), and came upon the Bathurstites who were seven nations stronger - and then came the hosts of Britain to make treaties with them and then even show them mercy when they rose up and were defeated.

Is no mercy - is no Aborigine.... Bathurst Rules.... Sydney Basin Rules.. Everywhere Else Rules... Is No Mercy - Is No Aborigines Left... instead they are expanding in number... rooting the white out of Australia, alongside Albo and his New Abos coming in droves...  WTF is wrong with that man? Does he hate the place so much he needs to flood it with Third Worlders and terrorists?  It's not our fault the kids at school called him WOG and stole his lunch money.... he wanted to be Albo, not his sainted Irish mother's name...

"Hi - meet me dad - otherwise known as The Invisible Man...."

Jeez - them Jebusites sound dangerous.... but they weren't Beyond the Pale Stinians (HAMAS) then... not even Arabs... just a few goat herders ...
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Reply #43 - Aug 23rd, 2024 at 5:43am
 
Then why isn't the UN enforcing peace and separation?

A.  because none of its countries want to waste their troops' lives there when the HAM-ASSES continue to play up.... if Israel stopped fighting, it would be driven into the sea - if the Arabs stopped fighting, there would be peace and separation.

Many of you are both sick and thick in the head.  Close down all pro-"Palestinian" riots - maybe 10% are worth saving for the re-education camps... support of a terrorist organisation should mean instant removal of your student rights.... that'd shut 'em up...

The Yanks knew how to handle 'em at Kent State... proof of time travel - Abraham Lincoln holding on to that tree branch ... four score and seven tear gases ago.....

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Reply #44 - Aug 23rd, 2024 at 1:11pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 23rd, 2024 at 5:37am:
wombatwoody wrote on Aug 22nd, 2024 at 10:36pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 20th, 2024 at 11:51pm:
[quote author=Laugh_till_you_cry link=1666940170/31#31 date=1721812018]Palestine is real. Israel is a figment which is currently being dismembered by Israeli Jews.

Israeli Jews are murdering Judaism.


They're just extending the borders of Judea back to where they were....  always was Israeli land 


Then explain this:

When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations—the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you— 2 and when the Lord your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally.[a] Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.

Deuteronomy 7:1-2



... and Blaxie, Wentie and Lawsie went across the mountains... [quote]

The Jews themselves were eventually dispossessed from "The Promised Land" - which they had conquered from orhers - by a succession of world empires; you are now arguing the Jews have a right to repossess it, even though they were in a minority during the Palestine Mandate era.

Whereas it seems Oz blacks were indeed the first human inhabitants of Oz, until the 'modern' world entered Oz in 1788...   

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