AusGeoff wrote on Nov 1^st, 2022 at 1:20pm:


And yet only yesterday in Fed Parliament Lydia Thorpe (pretty sure it was her - single mother at 17, houso from Collingwood - but correct me if you can) speeched that something like 20,000 (I think it was) kids are being abused (in her eyes) by being removed as a new Stolen Generation or something, and this after a stringent process and as a last resort ... of course she also threw in 'deaths in custody' as some weeping sore... forgetting that most of those die of natural causes or kill one another in prison, there is no cover-up of Aborigines being done away with etc, and that their death rate in prison is lower than in their own community.... she lamented that nobody was being held responsible.... well - don't get put in prison just to be safer than in your own community ......

This was on the wahless so I didn't catch every word..... but clearly it was a very one-sided interpretation...

https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/child-protection/child-protection-australia-2018...

So you can't really trust what they say...

Figures don't gel with my recollection - that 20,000 could be higher.

Ah - here we go, from that link:-

"1 in 6 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children received child protection services

In 2018–19, 51,500 Indigenous children received child protection services, a rate of 156 per 1,000 Indigenous children—an increase from 134 per 1,000 in 2014–15.

12,600 Indigenous children were the subject of a substantiation in 2018–19. The most common type of substantiated abuse was emotional abuse (47%) followed by neglect (31%).

At 30 June 2019, 21,900 Indigenous children were on care and protection orders. Of these children, 70% (15,300) were on guardianship or custody orders."

Note that term 'substantiation'.. it's a lengthy and complex thing involving courts and others.... not just some big hairy white bureaucrat coming in and stealing children in the dead of night....      

Oh, yeah - Thorpe was ranting about The Treaty.... and yet only the day before a learned Aboriginal Elder stated categorically that it was impossible to classify Indigenous groups as being a single contiguous group... each to his/her own... right?

No 'nationwide' treaty is possible, they say themselves.... and is a phantom in the minds of those who want to be True Believers.... a convenient peg on which to latch your raving and ranting and your endless set of demands in return for giving nothing......

Which reminds me again - what happened to Albo's Key Performance Indicators needed before any Voice proposal could be put to the people?  You know - work on the substance abuse problem, the violence problem, the endless incarceration problem for doing wrong, the abuse and neglect of children to the point where they are removed into care and protection......

Oh - I'm sorry ... that was the Used Car Salesman's advertising so beloved of politicians... pull a few rabbits out of the hat, tell all sorts of tall stories about mutual co-operation and responsibility and solid improvement in any 'gaps' by their own steam (bit of body filler here and there) ... then as soon as the buyer thinks it's kosher, rush them to signing the sales documents without any further discussion... then let them drive away in a smoking heap that rattles and clunks and needs more oil than petrol to keep on the road.  No warranty of course on any Voice or handover of national parks etc, etc, etc ... all politicians and parties are complicit in this theft of a nation to suit a small minority ..... nothing new - they already sold it all off to the Offshore Globalist Vultures anyway.... for thirty pieces of silver in many cases.

So you tell me the actual figures

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 8:49pm:



Only the rope can save our society:

Yadda wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2022 at 8:19am:

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2022 at 10:05am:


You can stop arguing now - as usual I've done the homework and got the oil from the government horse's mouth:-

https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/child-protection/child-protection-australia-2018...

"1 in 6 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children received child protection services

In 2018–19, 51,500 Indigenous children received child protection services, a rate of 156 per 1,000 Indigenous children—an increase from 134 per 1,000 in 2014–15.

12,600 Indigenous children were the subject of a substantiation in 2018–19. The most common type of substantiated abuse was emotional abuse (47%) followed by neglect (31%).

At 30 June 2019, 21,900 Indigenous children were on care and protection orders. Of these children, 70% (15,300) were on guardianship or custody orders."

I'm fully aware that this will never satisfy some, who will continue to rave that this is a deliberate crime against the Noble Indigenous who never do any wrong.... and if they do it's all the White Man's fault...  yeah, yeah, yeah  ... we've heard it all before...

P.S.  The rate of Indigenous incarceration has apparently gone up as well.......... it seems the apology only set them off... same as everything else does and will....  just gives them the false idea that they are above the law and somehow special etc - I warned yez that appeasement will never work but only make things worse by giving them the false illusion of power and control, and yet that's all the stupid politicians and public servants have.....

BTW - when people talk about 'truthtelling' - clearly they want a one way street of The Big Whine, and not the whole truth.  Just remember that the Human Rights And Equal Opportunities Commission has zero interest in overall human rights for all... go in there and you will be met with incredulous looks from the Indigenous staff wondering why any White person would consider they had a right abrogated.... it's like Danny Glover going into the South African Embassy to say he wanted to migrate to South Africa.....

WTF are you doing here, White Keffir - get out!! Are you joking or something? You White bastards are privileged - I can see by your holey shoes and your ratty clothes ... now get out... you have no right to be here.... bloody White Keffir....

Young Abo men experience violence at a rate significantly higher than other racial groups in Australia, but just like how in America by FAR the biggest danger to black men, is other black men, the biggest danger to young Abo men in Australia is other Abos.

So a white guy kills an Abo teen in a senseless act of violence, which may or may not have been racially motivated, it's a total outlier.

Anyone who obsesses on such a rare occurrence as this obviously has no interest actually learning what the real dangers are for young men.

We know that Mothra and her ilk has zero interest that Abo women are killed by Abo men at 11 times the rate of white women, therefore they must love it when Abo women are killed. I guess the same is for the deaths of young Abo men.

Is Mothra a real life genocidal maniac?

Gordon wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2022 at 11:57am:

Bluies only fizz at the bung over violence when they can inject an ethnic element into its motivation.