John Smith wrote on Nov 17^th, 2022 at 2:04pm:


Again, if I remember correctly, you said that in a later post, not your first one

Actually, I've been trying to work out how low the Lib's and Lab's primary vote would have to go before all their preference votes would be ineffective for them to form government. What I've deduced so far is that if their primary vote dropped to say 25%, the electorate would start to question the validity and integrity of preferential votes, because it would mean the major parties are getting more preference votes than primary votes. So would a party be prevented from forming government if they got more preference votes than primary votes .... something to think about!

Where the red wave was reflected in votes counted was in Florida where Ron DeSantis won 59.4 per cent of the vote. This was not only because he has proved to be an excellent governor, but also because he wisely closed the door to fraud in ‘mail-in’ voting and ballot harvesting, while cleansing the roll of the dead and requiring voter ID.

Rather than pointing to systemic fraud and gerrymandering as reasons for the failure of the red wave being reflected in seats won, the usual suspects, and not only Democrats, the never-Trumpers, RINOs, the mainstream and social media, but also panicking Republican grandees, joined together in blaming Donald Trump.

They have foolishly made him the ubiquitous and principal enemy of the people, just as Emmanuel Goldstein was in the Oceania of Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four.

The mainstream media might as well host a daily two-minute Trump hate session at 11am similar to Goldstein’s.

The fact is that as in 2016, when the lead contenders were Donald Trump and the excellent Ted Cruz, the Republicans have a veritable stable of quality choices for worthy future US presidents and thereby leaders of the free world.

The Democrats, now a neo-Marxist rabble, have none.
David Flint

No fraud - Republicans win.



Australians should not feign superiority. Our electoral system is more open to fraud than most comparable countries.

In 1983, the Hawke government legislated to make it ‘easier to vote’. So instead of voting in a nearby subdivisional polling station, I found I could vote in about 40 places, all without ID or any controls. Even when controls became easily available through the internet, they were never installed. Then in the middle of the 2010 election, the High Court moved against John Howard’s blocking of the usual tsunami of fraudulent, unverifiable enrolments in the week after the calling of an election. Declaring it unconstitutional, the Court waited until near Christmas to publish their unconvincing reasons and reveal their decision was taken by the narrowest majority. Meanwhile, GetUp! boasted it had 100,000 additional names inserted onto the rolls.
https://www.spectator.com.au/2022/11/red-wave-was-no-trickle-it-was-real/

John Smith wrote on Nov 17^th, 2022 at 5:27pm:


Tell us another one

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 17^th, 2022 at 5:01pm:


Dnarever wrote on Nov 17^th, 2022 at 6:16pm:


That would be great, finally the major parties monopoly on politics would be gone and they won't be major party any longer - can't wait!

All votes should hold 100% of their value ... as it is now, mine get discarded and thrown in the bin, because I voted for the "wrong" candidate, my whole life that's been happening whenever I've voted. So I don't vote anymore, for me it's waste of time and expense

I'm looking forward to the time when my vote counts for something, then I'll start voting againi

Who cares if Trump wins or loses.
He had nothing to lose in the first place.
What matters is that he makes you froth at the mouth. 

Peccary: The Forum's biggest liar, fraud and soccer b*itch.

And you're a homo-erotic deviant and stalker of members on this board with your chum John Smith and Doxxer Monk.

The fear here is that the red wave was squashed but it may be temporary as the situation driving the red wave still persists but was overridden by the crazies threat to democracy. It is possible that if the Republicans do not go with Trump the red wave could surge in 2024 with no crazy leader to frighten the voters they could easily vote on the economic lies from the right..