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Re: The Red Wave
Reply #60 - Nov 12^th, 2022 at 8:26pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 6^th, 2022 at 3:30am:

For World Peace, I wish the Republicans well.
For the selfish Democrats who thrive on persecuted victimhood to get ahead and probably claim that Russia started it all as well.
You'll hang yourself like a victim indeed, but you'll not take the lives of billions with you for your Nuke War.

...meanwhile Peccary squeals "But what about Trump!?"

Post 3: Just JaSin dribbling on his keyboard again.

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Re: The Red Wave
Reply #61 - Nov 12^th, 2022 at 8:31pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 6^th, 2022 at 3:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 6^th, 2022 at 9:19am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 6^th, 2022 at 8:48am:

It's hard to overestimate the rising tide of the ultra-religious, Christian fundamentalist conservative resentment building in the US bible belt and throughout the southern US.

The socio-cultural engineering experimentation over the last few years has more than alarmed this demographic - they're convinced it's satanic.

"Ah gaht mah mahnd made up, an' mah heart is raht, an' ahm goin' with Jesus awl tha way".

That's more than an affirmation from this demographic - it's a mortal threat to those who stand in their way.

Their Jesus is not a peacenik turning the other cheek, he's a warrior messiah.

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It's hard to overestimate the rising tide of the ultra-religious, Christian fundamentalist conservative

It is also difficult to measure the pro Roe v Wade Woman's rights vote. This is a group many of which normally don't vote who will this time. This is a direct parallel to the Trump Base who voted for the first time in 2016.

Both a dynamic that the polls likely will not measure till after the election. Several recent election votes fell victim to this. One state was polling republicans by 4% the actual vote went Dems by 16% A 20% swing against the republicans that they didn't see coming.

One scenario could see this applying across the board, probably not the most likely outcome but it is possible.

Yes, that may have an effect.
I think biden will lose some seats.

I think the US is in real trouble for a good leader.
Not Trump, not Biden, not kamala Harris.
Pence?

We had a run of Leaders that were voted out.
It was bad for the country

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Pence?

No - Pence cucked himself to Trump for 4 years and forty percent of the base still want to hang him. Most rethuglicans would vote democrat before Pence.

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Re: The Red Wave
Reply #62 - Nov 12^th, 2022 at 9:26pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 12^th, 2022 at 8:24pm:

...But the Republicans are Blaming Trump.

And rightly so...

On election day, the Republicans suffered widespread humiliation. The much-vaunted
“red wave” emerged like a hoax, closer to a red ripple. Although the full results are
still being counted, we know this much at least: that across all states and timezones,
Republicans under-performed. This morning, the stench of failure hangs over Donald
Trump and his party.

With Trump’s specter hovering over the ballot box like a malignant ghost, democracy
and abortion proved to be more resilient issues than predicted. Crime and inflation
remained relevant, but not determinative. Suburban women went Democratic.

Trump is scared. Hours before the polls closed, he lashed out at DeSantis, and
signalled that he was privy to the governor’s secrets – “things about him that won’t
be very flattering”. Of course, after Stormy Daniels, there is little that voters would
find shocking... LOL

Right now, “Ron DeSanctimonious” occupies rent-free space in Trump’s head. It’s
game on for the Republican presidential nod. In the end, both men may emerge bloodied.

Suddenly, Biden isn’t looking so old.

—Excerpted from The Guardian Australia, 12 November.

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Re: The Red Wave
Reply #63 - Nov 12^th, 2022 at 9:44pm

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 12^th, 2022 at 9:26pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 12^th, 2022 at 8:24pm:

...But the Republicans are Blaming Trump.

And rightly so...

On election day, the Republicans suffered widespread humiliation. The much-vaunted
“red wave” emerged like a hoax, closer to a red ripple. Although the full results are
still being counted, we know this much at least: that across all states and timezones,
Republicans under-performed. This morning, the stench of failure hangs over Donald
Trump and his party.

With Trump’s specter hovering over the ballot box like a malignant ghost, democracy
and abortion proved to be more resilient issues than predicted. Crime and inflation
remained relevant, but not determinative. Suburban women went Democratic.

Trump is scared. Hours before the polls closed, he lashed out at DeSantis, and
signalled that he was privy to the governor’s secrets – “things about him that won’t
be very flattering”. Of course, after Stormy Daniels, there is little that voters would
find shocking... LOL

Right now, “Ron DeSanctimonious” occupies rent-free space in Trump’s head. It’s
game on for the Republican presidential nod. In the end, both men may emerge bloodied.

Suddenly, Biden isn’t looking so old.

—Excerpted from The Guardian Australia, 12 November.

Trump has never been popular among republicans. The issue is that the base will continues to vote for him which means that he doesn't need the standard republican politicians to win the nomination - as in 2016.

Problem is the same as we seen in this last election. The Base can elect Trump candidates in a republican run off election but the form does not hold up in a full election. The result is that Trump can win nomination weather the republican politicians like him or not but he likely cannot win a full election.

He lost the peoples vote in 2016 by 3 million votes and then in 2020 he lost it by 8 million votes, You would expect that this number can only get worse for Donald.

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Bias_2012 Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 10688 Gender:	Re: The Red Wave Reply #65 - Nov 13^th, 2022 at 3:16am Raven wrote on Nov 13^th, 2022 at 2:35am: Who would have thought. Despite his approval rating, Joe Biden has proved to be the most successful Democratic president in a mid term election in decades. Yeah, voluntary voting is not that bad after all ... what do you think?
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Re: The Red Wave
Reply #68 - Nov 13^th, 2022 at 10:57pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2022 at 3:16am:

Raven wrote on Nov 13^th, 2022 at 2:35am:

Who would have thought. Despite his approval rating, Joe Biden has proved to be the most successful Democratic president in a mid term election in decades.

Yeah, voluntary voting is not that bad after all ... what do you think?

Clinton lost 54 House seats, Bush lost 31, Obama lost 64, Trump lost 42, Biden is looking at losing 10 to 15. Voluntary voting seems to work for the US so good for them.

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Re: The Red Wave
Reply #69 - Nov 13^th, 2022 at 11:38pm

Raven wrote on Nov 13^th, 2022 at 10:57pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2022 at 3:16am:

Raven wrote on Nov 13^th, 2022 at 2:35am:

Who would have thought. Despite his approval rating, Joe Biden has proved to be the most successful Democratic president in a mid term election in decades.

Yeah, voluntary voting is not that bad after all ... what do you think?

Clinton lost 54 House seats, Bush lost 31, Obama lost 64, Trump lost 42, Biden is looking at losing 10 to 15. Voluntary voting seems to work for the US so good for them.

They also look like gaining a senate seat.

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Dnarever Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 58037 Here Gender:	Re: The Red Wave Reply #70 - Nov 13^th, 2022 at 11:46pm Raven wrote on Nov 13^th, 2022 at 2:35am: Who would have thought. Despite his approval rating, Joe Biden has proved to be the most successful Democratic president in a mid term election in decades. Maybe since Roosevelt in the early 1900's.
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Reply #71 - Nov 14^th, 2022 at 2:09am

It’s been odd listening to Fox News lately. They now seem to blame youth voters for the mid term results. Going so far as to say they have been brainwashed. If anything youth voters seem to recognise many of them will be in debt, they’ve seen two “once in a lifetime” recessions. When they look at Republicans they see they are not offering solutions, they are offering hate, division, conspiracy and authoritarianism.

Why would they vote Republican?

The Republican Party has lost its way. Which is a shame. The party of Lincoln, Grant and Eisenhower.

What a waste.

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Re: The Red Wave
Reply #72 - Nov 14^th, 2022 at 2:56am

Raven wrote on Nov 13^th, 2022 at 10:57pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2022 at 3:16am:

Raven wrote on Nov 13^th, 2022 at 2:35am:

Who would have thought. Despite his approval rating, Joe Biden has proved to be the most successful Democratic president in a mid term election in decades.

Yeah, voluntary voting is not that bad after all ... what do you think?

Clinton lost 54 House seats, Bush lost 31, Obama lost 64, Trump lost 42, Biden is looking at losing 10 to 15. Voluntary voting seems to work for the US so good for them.

If it works for the US, why wouldn't it work here?

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Re: The Red Wave
Reply #73 - Nov 14^th, 2022 at 3:27am

Raven wrote on Nov 14^th, 2022 at 2:09am:

It’s been odd listening to Fox News lately. They now seem to blame youth voters for the mid term results. Going so far as to say they have been brainwashed. If anything youth voters seem to recognise many of them will be in debt, they’ve seen two “once in a lifetime” recessions. When they look at Republicans they see they are not offering solutions, they are offering hate, division, conspiracy and authoritarianism.

Why would they vote Republican?

The Republican Party has lost its way. Which is a shame. The party of Lincoln, Grant and Eisenhower.

What a waste.

Youth voters would be more inclined to vote for populist socialism and soft sentencing

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Reply #74 - Nov 14^th, 2022 at 5:09am

real americans will vote for governor de santis is record numbers in 2024.

he will emerge from the ashes like a pheonix and demolish the party of woke ideology, inflation, identity politics, lawlessness and division.

an alpha male we can all rally around.

he will give the old buck a presidential pardon , finish the wall , and take his place in the white house where he will chuck out all the adult daipers and get the cleaners to remove that old person smell.

god bless him

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