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Reply #17 - Nov 16th, 2022 at 3:08pm
 
Looks like McClown land known as WA have accepted risks with MRNA vaccines. They lag behind the Florida surgeon general who was talking about this quite some time ago.

Take note on how patients with vaccine related Myocarditis should be admitted to hospital.

The truth will come out it can't be swept under the carpet.

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Reply #18 - Nov 25th, 2022 at 4:32pm
 
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Martin Kulldorff
@MartinKulldorff

@Facebook
@Twitter
@Google
@YouTube
and @Microsoft's  @LinkedIn
all censored accurate #COVID information from honest credible scientists. They owe Americans and the world an apology.

https://twitter.com/MartinKulldorff/status/1595780987635499008?cxt=HHwWgICwtc-Wr...


Harvard epidemiologist says these people who control information need to apologise to the world for censoring accurate covid information.

The sheeple have been brainwashed with misinformation for over 2 years they're too stupid to realise it.
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Reply #19 - Nov 25th, 2022 at 4:42pm
 
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Reply #20 - Nov 25th, 2022 at 5:09pm
 
Baron ... I've asked Freediver to merge my topic into this one (apologies as I've had a shocker of a day AND I did not realise that this topic existed).

As I've stated on OzPol many times previously... I have a congenital heart disorder (born with a hole in my heart and it has never closed) plus I have DVT.

Thank God I had enough initiative to ignore the incessant and relentless marketing of these vaccines and sought medical advice by those qualified practitioners who knew my personal medical conditions.

There's no way I would have been ok if I had taken those vaccines! And I would have been just another statistic with a pre existing condition.

And yet the irony remains : I've never had Covid19 at all despite the fact that my husband who is triple jabbed DID! Three times too! And to top it all off I had to be his personal nurse 24/7 until he got better. Even though I was exposed to him and his virus I kept testing negative every 12 hrs and not once did I have any symptoms either. He on the other hand kept testing positive (and yes he started getting the sh1ts because he reckoned I had some rare/special/natural immunity). 

I STILL cannot explain how I have remained Covid19 free despite the fact that I am totally unvaccinated. I DO know that I pray and ask God every day to help keep me safe so that I can be of assistance to all my family and of course my neighbours - many of them are old/have lost their spouses/their kids live interstate....some have terminal cancer now so I do visit them regularly with groceries and/or flowers or fruit and veges or herbs from my garden.

Having said all this .... I am still worried for everyone. Yes EVERYONE! Why? Without a doubt this virus is a runaway train and the current vaccines are just playing catch up with it WHILE causing other serious health issues. 🥺i

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Reply #21 - Nov 25th, 2022 at 5:17pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 4:42pm:
Yep.


There are medical staff who were fired because they didn't take the vaccine.

Fauci and the CDC admitted in August 2021 the vaccines don't stop transmission there was no scientific justification for firing anyone who refuse the vaccines.

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‘Let us save lives again’ say vaccine-free healthcare workers


Healthcare workers who were forced to leave their employment when they declined Covid vaccinations say it’s time to drop the mandates and let them get back to their jobs.

Peaceful protests have been taking place this week at four major public hospitals located in Queensland, New South Wales, South Australia, and Victoria. These states still have injection mandates in place for healthcare workers, as well as for people who work in aged care homes or disability support services.

The protests unite some 1,600 healthcare workers across the country who have been brought together by Monica Smit, founder of Reignite Democracy Australia, in a bid to challenge the mandates.

One of the nurses demonstrating outside the emergency department at St Vincent’s Hospital, Sydney, who had more than 35 years’ experience said:
    ‘I’m heartbroken that I haven’t been able to work for over a year because of my unvaccinated status. I was dismissed from my job. I’m willing and able and capable…. I’m here to help.’

At the Royal Melbourne Hospital on the first day of the demonstrations, protesters brought with them 392 years of combined nursing experience, Smit noted.

One vaccine-free nurse who had lost her job said:
‘[I] can go to a hospital and visit someone. I can go to a nursing home and visit my aunt. But I can’t go and work in a nursing home or work in a hospital. Where is the science behind that?’


While the mandates were originally intended to protect patients, the logic behind that decision must be questioned, given that none of the three genetic vaccines were tested in their clinical trials for their ability to prevent transmission of the virus.

Famously in early October, Rob Roos, Member of the European Parliament, asked a question that made the world aware that Pfizer’s clinical trials had not tested for transmission. In fact, the dearth of information on transmission for all three vaccine clinical trials has been in plain sight ever since government regulatory bodies, such as the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA), published public assessment reports on the vaccines at the start of the rollout. These documents either report that the effect on transmission was not evaluated (Pfizer and Astra Zeneca) or do not mention transmission (Moderna).

And now that many of us have experienced Covid in the real world, scientific studies are not needed to know that people who have been vaccinated, even with multiple shots, can catch and spread the disease.

If the vaccines do not prevent transmission, then why do health workers have to have them?


Other countries have been managing their health services without mandating the Covid injections. In the UK, staff in the National Health Service (NHS) were told they would be mandated for vaccination from April 1, but this was dropped.

One of the factors behind abandoning the NHS mandates was a protest group called NHS100k which made clear to Boris Johnson and his government that between 80,000 and 100,000 healthcare workers were likely to quit their jobs if the mandates were brought in.

Johnson realised that the NHS simply could not run with that reduction in staff numbers.

Here in Australia, we hear reports of health services that are stretched, and in Victoria there was a crisis in triple zero call response times earlier this year. A staffing shortage of nurses seems evident in Victoria, at least, which is running large billboard advertisements in NSW, trying to attract nurses to the state.

Allowing unvaccinated staff to return to work would surely be beneficial, Smit argues.

    ‘I wonder, has anyone asked the patients what they want? Has anyone asked a mother whose child is choking if she would prefer an unvaccinated paramedic in five minutes or a vaccinated paramedic in one hour? Or a mother whose son is crying with a broken arm in the emergency ward if she’d rather see an unvaccinated doctor sooner?’

She says a policy that was allegedly put in place to protect people’s health is having the opposite effect, and damaging Australia’s entire health system.

Smit has carried out a survey on her website. So far, 29,243 people have responded and 27,568 of them said they wanted private and public hospitals to allow unvaccinated workers to come back to work. A similar number said they would be happy to be treated by a person who had not had the shots. Of course, many followers of her website are pro-choice. Smit said:

    ‘The latest country to jettison the vaccine mandates for all health workers is Italy. Why can’t Australia follow suit? It is time to restore some sanity. Abolish the vaccine mandates and reinstate these healthcare workers so they can continue to save lives.’

https://www.spectator.com.au/2022/11/let-us-save-lives-again-say-vaccine-free-he...
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Reply #22 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 10:05pm
 
New advice from our benevolent dictators on  vaccine.

This is a major change -
During the consent process, all people who receive a COVID-19 vaccine should be advised of
the very rare risk of myocarditis and/or pericarditis after vaccination, the possible symptoms
(presented in Table 3), and what to do if symptoms develop.


Quote:
Guidance on Myocarditis
and Pericarditis after
COVID-19 vaccines


9 November 2022

Myocarditis and pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination

What is the risk of myocarditis after COVID-19 vaccination, and who is at greatest risk?Reported rates of myocarditis after COVID-19 vaccination vary by country, vaccine type, age, gender, and interval between vaccine doses.

Can AstraZeneca cause myocarditis or pericarditis?
There is a small risk of myocarditis and/or pericarditis following AstraZeneca. This risk is lower than following an mRNA vaccine.A UK study in December 2021 found the risk was highest in men under 40 years of age at 8-14
days after dose 2

What is the risk of myocarditis and pericarditis following a bivalent mRNA vaccine?There are currently no published studies on the rates of myocarditis and/or pericarditis following bivalent mRNA vaccines. The clinical trials of the bivalent vaccine did not observe any cases of myocarditis or pericarditis32,33, but were not powered to detect rare events

Advice for vaccine recipients regarding clinical features of myocarditis or pericarditis following COVID-19 vaccination
During the consent process, all people who receive a COVID-19 vaccine should be advised of
the very rare risk of myocarditis and/or pericarditis after vaccination


Assessment of possible myocarditis or pericarditis following vaccination
Patients with significant clinical suspicion of myocarditis and/or pericarditis should immediately be
referred to ED.


Referral & Management
Patients with confirmed myocarditis should be admitted to hospital for cardiac monitoring (ideally continuous ECG monitoring), until the cardiac biomarker levels have peaked and symptoms have resolved

After a diagnosis of myocarditis and/or pericarditis, cardiology follow-up will be required for at least 12 months. People for whom management in the community is advised should be reviewed by their general practitioner every 1-2 days. Advise patients to avoid high-intensity exercise or
competitive sports until resolution of symptoms and ECG changes, and normalisation of cardiac function


Severity, outcomes, and long-term prognosis
It is important to consider pericarditis and myocarditis separately when reviewing clinical outcomes. Most myocarditis cases linked to COVID-19 vaccination have required hospitalisation, with the majority of cases having a relatively mild and selflimitingcourse.6,20,35 Fatal cases have been reported, including in females

Recommended long-term follow up
Patients with myocarditis and/or pericarditis after an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine whose symptoms resolve quickly, who do not have any arrhythmia associated with the acute myocarditis, and who have not had prolonged impairment of ventricular systolic function should be followed up for at
least 12 months. There will usually be some restriction of exercise (particularly strenuous exercise or competitive sport) if they have confirmed myocarditis.

More here
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2022/11/covid-19-vaccina...
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Reply #23 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 10:18pm
 
There was no mention of this during vaccine trials.

Quote:
Autopsy‑based histopathological characterization of myocarditisafter anti‑SARS‑CoV‑2‑vaccination


Abstract
Cases of myocarditis, diagnosed clinically by laboratory tests and imaging have been described in the context of mRNA-basedanti-SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. Autopsy-based description of detailed histological features of vaccine-induced myocarditis is lacking. We describe the autopsy findings and common characteristics of myocarditis in untreated persons who received anti-SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. Standardized autopsies were performed on 25 persons who had died unexpectedly and within 20 days after anti-SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. In four patients who received a mRNA vaccination, we identified acute (epi-)myocarditis without detection of another significant disease or health constellation that may have caused an unexpected death.[/highlight]

Results
Among the 35 cases of the University of Heidelberg, autop-
sies revealed other causes of death (due to pre-existing ill-
nesses) in 10 patients (Supplementary Table 1). Hence, these were excluded from further analysis. Cardiac autopsy findings consistent with (epi-)myocarditis were found in five
cases of the remaining 25 bodies found unexpectedly dead
at home within 20 days following SARS-CoV-2 vaccina-
tion.

Four persons died after the first vaccine jab,the remaining case after the second dose. All persons diedwithin the first week following vaccination (mean 2.5 days,median 2 days). Clinical findings, blood tests, ECGs or imaging data were not available as deceased persons did not seek medical attention prior to death. Person 1 was found dead 12 h after the vaccination.

Through our autopsy-based approach, we identified five
cases of lymphocytic (epi-)myocarditis in persons, who were
unexpectedly found dead at home within the first week fol-
lowing mRNA-mediated anti-SARS-CoV-2 immunization.

https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s00392-022-02129-5.pdf?pdf


There was a Cardiologist who brought this up about 18 months ago he has had more papers published than any other Cardiologist. He was banned from Twitter,Facebook and Youtube who are owned by Google. He was also deregistered for not following Faucis narrative. Looks like he was right.
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Reply #24 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 11:25pm
 
Quote:
The Incidence of Myocarditis and Pericarditis in Post COVID-19 Unvaccinated Patients—A Large Population-Based Study


Post COVID-19 infection was not associated with either myocarditis (aHR 1.08; 95% CI 0.45 to 2.56) or pericarditis (aHR 0.53; 95% CI 0.25 to 1.13). We did not observe an increased incidence of neither pericarditis nor myocarditis in adult patients recovering from COVID-19 infection.

Patients with a first vaccination received before COVID-19 infection were excluded (n = 16,632), resulting in the final COVID-19 cohort (n = 196,992).

Post COVID-19 infection was not associated with myocarditis (aHR 1.08; 95% CI 0.45 to 2.56, p = 0.869).

4. Discussion
In the current large population study of subjects, who were not vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2, we observed no increase in the incidence of myocarditis or pericarditis from day 10 after positive SARS-CoV-2.


5. Conclusions
Our data suggest that there is no increase in the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis in COVID-19 recovered patients compared to uninfected matched controls

https://www.mdpi.com/2077-0383/11/8/2219



The media like to downplay this to  'mildcarditis'...

It is a irreversible scarring of the heart. Nothing mild about it.
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Reply #25 - Dec 18th, 2022 at 10:03pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 5:09pm:
Baron ... I've asked Freediver to merge my topic into this one (apologies as I've had a shocker of a day AND I did not realise that this topic existed).

As I've stated on OzPol many times previously... I have a congenital heart disorder (born with a hole in my heart and it has never closed) plus I have DVT.

Thank God I had enough initiative to ignore the incessant and relentless marketing of these vaccines and sought medical advice by those qualified practitioners who knew my personal medical conditions.

There's no way I would have been ok if I had taken those vaccines! And I would have been just another statistic with a pre existing condition.

And yet the irony remains : I've never had Covid19 at all despite the fact that my husband who is triple jabbed DID! Three times too! And to top it all off I had to be his personal nurse 24/7 until he got better. Even though I was exposed to him and his virus I kept testing negative every 12 hrs and not once did I have any symptoms either. He on the other hand kept testing positive (and yes he started getting the sh1ts because he reckoned I had some rare/special/natural immunity). 

I STILL cannot explain how I have remained Covid19 free despite the fact that I am totally unvaccinated. I DO know that I pray and ask God every day to help keep me safe so that I can be of assistance to all my family and of course my neighbours - many of them are old/have lost their spouses/their kids live interstate....some have terminal cancer now so I do visit them regularly with groceries and/or flowers or fruit and veges or herbs from my garden.

Having said all this .... I am still worried for everyone. Yes EVERYONE! Why? Without a doubt this virus is a runaway train and the current vaccines are just playing catch up with it WHILE causing other serious health issues. 🥺



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Reply #26 - Dec 24th, 2022 at 5:08pm
 
Data for week ending 10th December

No deaths for those under 50 years of age.
2 deaths 50-59
2 deaths 60-69
11 deaths 70-79
23 deaths 80-89
18 deaths 90+

Vaccination status - Hospital -  ICU - Deaths
4 or more                 345         31       35
3 doses                    163         12       6
2 doses                    95           11       5
1 dose                      3             1        3
No doses                   1             0        6

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-overvie...

Old people are leading the deaths. No unvaxxed people under 50 died.

Those with 4 or more clot shots continue to lead with hospital admissions in ICU and Deaths.

If the vax worked why are those with 4 or more shots topping the numbers for hospital and ICU as welll as deaths?

         


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JAMA = Journal American Medical Association

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Reply #28 - Dec 24th, 2022 at 6:22pm
 
wombatwoody wrote on Dec 18th, 2022 at 10:03pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 5:09pm:
Baron ... I've asked Freediver to merge my topic into this one (apologies as I've had a shocker of a day AND I did not realise that this topic existed).

As I've stated on OzPol many times previously... I have a congenital heart disorder (born with a hole in my heart and it has never closed) plus I have DVT.

Thank God I had enough initiative to ignore the incessant and relentless marketing of these vaccines and sought medical advice by those qualified practitioners who knew my personal medical conditions.

There's no way I would have been ok if I had taken those vaccines! And I would have been just another statistic with a pre existing condition.

And yet the irony remains : I've never had Covid19 at all despite the fact that my husband who is triple jabbed DID! Three times too! And to top it all off I had to be his personal nurse 24/7 until he got better. Even though I was exposed to him and his virus I kept testing negative every 12 hrs and not once did I have any symptoms either. He on the other hand kept testing positive (and yes he started getting the sh1ts because he reckoned I had some rare/special/natural immunity). 

I STILL cannot explain how I have remained Covid19 free despite the fact that I am totally unvaccinated. I DO know that I pray and ask God every day to help keep me safe so that I can be of assistance to all my family and of course my neighbours - many of them are old/have lost their spouses/their kids live interstate....some have terminal cancer now so I do visit them regularly with groceries and/or flowers or fruit and veges or herbs from my garden.

Having said all this .... I am still worried for everyone. Yes EVERYONE! Why? Without a doubt this virus is a runaway train and the current vaccines are just playing catch up with it WHILE causing other serious health issues. 🥺



Natural immunity most likely.


And our immune system is like “you take care of me… and I’ll take care of you”

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Reply #29 - Jan 1st, 2023 at 1:44pm
 
There is misinformation that being unvaxxed makes you many times more likely to end up in Hospital or ICU.
The data for NSW doesn't support this myth.

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NSW Respiratory Surveillance Report - week ending 19 November 2022

         Data for hospital and ICU
Unvaxxed        0                 0
1 shot             4                 0
2 shots           59                4
3 shots          114               18
4 or more      214              23
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-overvie...

NSW Respiratory Surveillance Report - week ending 26 November 2022
                   Hospital         ICU
Unvaxxed       3                  0
1 shot            6                  0
2 shots          80                10
3 shots          142               9
4 or more      249               12
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-overvie...

NSW Respiratory Surveillance Report - week ending 03 December 2022
                    Hospital         ICU
Unvaxxed       0                   0
1 Clot shot     8                    3
2 clot shots    85                  4
3 clot shots    170                15
4 or more      296                 18
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-overvie...

NSW Respiratory Surveillance Report - week ending 10 December 2022
                    hospital         icu
Unvaxxed       1                  0
1 shot            3                  1
2 shots          95                 11
3 shots          163               12
4 or more      345               31
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-overvie...


Data clearly shows 4 or more clot shots have highest number of hospital admissions, icu admissions and deaths.

Those who are unvaxxed have the lowest rates.

Why are those with 4 or more clot shots having the highest number of serious infections?

Was Geert VandenBosssche who spent his life working for every major vaccine maker along with employment with Bill and Melinda Gates foundation right with these vaccines being a huge mistake?

When you induce (vaccine) your immune system to fight this virus it overpowers your innate (natural immune system) leaving you vulnerable to new variants. It can't be undone.Starting to look like Geert was right with this.

When we look at the numbers of those who have received clot shots the difference between those who have had 4 or more compared to none is stunning in hospital numbers.

The myth the unvaxxed are hospitalised for covid at far greater rates is busted it's bullshit. Does anyone want to do the maths on this?






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