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Re: Reality check on vaccine narrative
Reply #60 - Jan 23rd, 2023 at 7:36pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jan 23rd, 2023 at 10:03am:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 23rd, 2023 at 6:50am:
It's interesting that the heads of both pfizer and moderna have been invited to the world economic forum
Presided over by Mr Bill Gates


Gates is now one of the largest private landholders in the United states
He is very keen to demolish the climate unfriendly cattle market lol
And get you all on processed carbs

This of course should ensure his friends in big pharma can continue to make massive profits treating all those sick diabetics cardiac patients hypertension etcetera etcetera that bill is helping to create

Surprise surprise the head of the Coca-Cola corporation is also invited to the world economic forum
Interesting that Mexico now has the highest rate of childhood obesity on the planet
Mexican children actually drink more Coca-Cola then water

This is also becoming a problem for India and China

Big tech
Big government
Big media
Big pharma
Big food

All getting together to decide your future

What could possibly go wrong Grin Grin Grin


Surprise, surprise that the heads of these large companies would be invited to a World Economic Forum.

What on earth were they thinking?  Roll Eyes

"Presided over by Mr Bill Gates"

Really? You do know the meaning of the words presided over, don't you?

He didn't even confirm that he was attending and some people were even falsely claiming he'd withdrawn from the forum.

Posts falsely claim Bill Gates withdrew from Davos forum

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CLAIM: Billionaire philanthropist Bill Gates abruptly pulled out of the 2023 World Economic Forum gathering in Davos, Switzerland.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Gates was never confirmed to attend this year’s forum, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation said in a statement provided to The Associated Press. A spokesperson for the World Economic Forum also confirmed that the claim is false.


You're not just making things up again, are you?


Not at all. The "noble Scoot" has seen the light.

Look, he's a bit of a bullshitartist, he likes a good yarn.

But Aquascoot has finally stumbled onto the big picture.

Be it Jeff, Bill or Elon, it matters not. The Great Industrialists, the carpetbaggers of our age, exploit systems.

It's not personal. They may even want to be nice.

But without regulation, capitalism produces monopolies. Bill Gates is as much a symptom as an agent.

The noble Scoot is just making stuff up to highlight this truth.
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Re: Reality check on vaccine narrative
Reply #61 - Jan 31st, 2023 at 4:36pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Jan 23rd, 2023 at 12:34am:
https://i.postimg.cc/rwvPhWJy/Screenshot-2023-01-23-at-01-14-22-Malone-jpg-JPEG-...

Okay... firstly Doctor Robert Malone did not "invent mRNA technology".
While he was involved in some early research into the technology, his
role in its creation was minimal at best
, say half a dozen Covid experts
and researchers, including three who worked closely with Malone.

The idea that he is the inventor of mRNA vaccines is “a totally false claim,”
said Dr. Gyula Acsadi, a pediatrician in Connecticut who along with Malone
and five others wrote a widely cited paper in 1990 showing that injecting
RNA into muscle could produce proteins.

But Malone was not the lead author on the paper and, according to Acsadi,
did not make a significant contribution to the research.

Malone has emerged as one of the most controversial voices of the
movement against coronavirus vaccines and health mandates. His
claims and suggestions have been discredited and denounced by
medical professionals as not only wrong, but also dangerous
.



It appears you're only having a whinge about the role Robert had in developing mrna vaccines.

Robert is vaccinated he did get serious adverse effects should he have kept quiet to appease our benevolent dictators?

Care to comment on his prediction which NSW numbers show with more shots more likely to end up in ICU being correct?
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Reply #62 - Jan 31st, 2023 at 4:55pm
 
Looks like the UK realise these vaccines aren't what people claim they are.

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JCVI statement on the COVID-19 vaccination programme for 2023: 8 November 2022


Updated 27 January 2023

Overview
During this time, the risk of severe COVID-19 continues to be disproportionately greater in those from older age groups, residents in care homes for older adults, and persons with certain underlying health conditions. Compared to the initial phases of the pandemic, much more is now understood regarding SARS-CoV2 infection.
(Bullshit- The Great Barrington Declaration knew this everyone dismissed them as fringe epidemiologists thanks to Fauci)

JCVI also advises that:

The 2021 booster offer (third dose) for persons aged 16 to 49 years who are not in a clinical risk group should close in alignment with the close of the autumn 2022 vaccination campaign[footnote 1]

primary course COVID-19 vaccination should move, over the course of 2023, towards a more targeted offer during vaccination campaigns to protect those persons at higher risk of severe COVID-19. This would include:

    residents in a care home for older adults and staff working in care homes for older adults
    frontline health and social care workers
    all adults aged 50 years and over
    persons aged 5 to 49 years in a clinical risk group, as set out in the Green Book
    persons aged 12 to 49 years who are household contacts of people with immunosuppression
    persons aged 16 to 49 years who are carers, as set out in the Green Book

research should be considered to inform the optimal timing of booster vaccinations to protect against severe COVID-19 (hospitalisations and deaths) for groups who are at different levels of clinical risk. (WTF why is there no data on this Pharma is making billions there is no excuse)

Considerations

Natural immunity alone provides good levels of protection against severe COVID-19

Not all hospitalisations and deaths ascribed to SARS-CoV-2 infection are vaccine-preventable events.


Due to the high transmissibility of the Omicron variant, together with infection that can be asymptomatic or only mildly symptomatic, persons who require hospital care for non-COVID-19 reasons may be coincidentally infected with SARS-CoV-2. Such hospitalisations are not preventable through COVID-19 vaccination


In contrast, some highly vulnerable individuals may develop severe COVID-19 despite being vaccinated; these individuals often have underlying health conditions that confer high susceptibility to severe disease from other infections as well. In the UK, during the Omicron era (up to week 43, 2022), the highest rates of hospitalisations were consistently observed in persons aged 75 years and over, while rates of infection (non-severe illness) were high across all ages and especially among younger persons

Revised estimates of the number needed to vaccinate (NNV) to prevent one hospitalisation during the Omicron era indicate that 800 persons aged 70 years and above would need to be given a booster in autumn 2022 (a fourth dose) to prevent one hospitalisation from COVID-19. The corresponding NNV for persons aged 50 to 59 years is 8,000 and for persons aged 40 to 49 years who are not in a clinical risk group is 92,500 (Appendix 1).


https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccination-programme-for-20...


Nice to see the UK government finally admitting The Great Barrington Declaration nailed it.

The FDA says everyone should get boosters the experts from the UK say those under 50 who are fit and healthy don't need them.  Wink

The only thing bosters do is boost profits for big pharma.
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Re: Reality check on vaccine narrative
Reply #63 - Feb 4th, 2023 at 2:03pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 23rd, 2023 at 12:01am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 1st, 2023 at 1:44pm:
There is misinformation that being unvaxxed makes you many times more likely to end up in Hospital or ICU.
The data for NSW doesn't support this myth.

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NSW Respiratory Surveillance Report - week ending 19 November 2022

         Data for hospital and ICU
Unvaxxed        0                 0
1 shot             4                 0
2 shots           59                4
3 shots          114               18
4 or more      214              23
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-overvie...

NSW Respiratory Surveillance Report - week ending 26 November 2022
                   Hospital         ICU
Unvaxxed       3                  0
1 shot            6                  0
2 shots          80                10
3 shots          142               9
4 or more      249               12
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-overvie...

NSW Respiratory Surveillance Report - week ending 03 December 2022
                    Hospital         ICU
Unvaxxed       0                   0
1 Clot shot     8                    3
2 clot shots    85                  4
3 clot shots    170                15
4 or more      296                 18
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-overvie...

NSW Respiratory Surveillance Report - week ending 10 December 2022
                    hospital         icu
Unvaxxed       1                  0
1 shot            3                  1
2 shots          95                 11
3 shots          163               12
4 or more      345               31
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-overvie...


Data clearly shows 4 or more clot shots have highest number of hospital admissions, icu admissions and deaths.

Those who are unvaxxed have the lowest rates.

Why are those with 4 or more clot shots having the highest number of serious infections?

Was Geert VandenBosssche who spent his life working for every major vaccine maker along with employment with Bill and Melinda Gates foundation right with these vaccines being a huge mistake?

When you induce (vaccine) your immune system to fight this virus it overpowers your innate (natural immune system) leaving you vulnerable to new variants. It can't be undone.Starting to look like Geert was right with this.

When we look at the numbers of those who have received clot shots the difference between those who have had 4 or more compared to none is stunning in hospital numbers.

The myth the unvaxxed are hospitalised for covid at far greater rates is busted it's bullshit. Does anyone want to do the maths on this?




Looks like Robert Malone was right with this prediction.

Funny how they call him anti vaxxer when he has had this covid vax along with adverse effects from it.




Virologists are talking about why those who are vaxxed to the max are topping hospital and ICU numbers around the world.

Interesting theory with the mrna vax instructing your body to produce spike proteins and boosting this production with boosters without being exposed to covid before booster results in your immune system ignoring the spike protein when you get infected as your immune system thinks the spike protein is harmless.

This means the vax actually leaves you defenceless against covid which might explain the large numbers of vaxxed to the max being in hospital and ICU.

It was assumed the 2 shots would offer protection without the need for 3+. There was no testing done with more than 2 shots.

It's pretty clear the vax doesn't work as claimed when looking at hospital and ICU numbers.


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Reply #64 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 10:16pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 1st, 2023 at 1:44pm:
There is misinformation that being unvaxxed makes you many times more likely to end up in Hospital or ICU.
The data for NSW doesn't support this myth.

Quote:
NSW Respiratory Surveillance Report - week ending 19 November 2022

         Data for hospital and ICU
Unvaxxed        0                 0
1 shot             4                 0
2 shots           59                4
3 shots          114               18
4 or more      214              23
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-overvie...

NSW Respiratory Surveillance Report - week ending 26 November 2022
                   Hospital         ICU
Unvaxxed       3                  0
1 shot            6                  0
2 shots          80                10
3 shots          142               9
4 or more      249               12
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-overvie...

NSW Respiratory Surveillance Report - week ending 03 December 2022
                    Hospital         ICU
Unvaxxed       0                   0
1 Clot shot     8                    3
2 clot shots    85                  4
3 clot shots    170                15
4 or more      296                 18
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-overvie...

NSW Respiratory Surveillance Report - week ending 10 December 2022
                    hospital         icu
Unvaxxed       1                  0
1 shot            3                  1
2 shots          95                 11
3 shots          163               12
4 or more      345               31
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-overvie...


Data clearly shows 4 or more clot shots have highest number of hospital admissions, icu admissions and deaths.

Those who are unvaxxed have the lowest rates.

Why are those with 4 or more clot shots having the highest number of serious infections?

Was Geert VandenBosssche who spent his life working for every major vaccine maker along with employment with Bill and Melinda Gates foundation right with these vaccines being a huge mistake?

When you induce (vaccine) your immune system to fight this virus it overpowers your innate (natural immune system) leaving you vulnerable to new variants. It can't be undone.Starting to look like Geert was right with this.

When we look at the numbers of those who have received clot shots the difference between those who have had 4 or more compared to none is stunning in hospital numbers.

The myth the unvaxxed are hospitalised for covid at far greater rates is busted it's bullshit. Does anyone want to do the maths on this?



NSW data shows vax isn't very good. If it works why are those with 4 or more shots topping the numbers?


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Reply #65 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 10:18pm
 
With vax rates the intellectually dishonest like ausgeoff will exclude younger people from vax rates.

NSW hospital data includes all ages so vax rate data should be for all ages.

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Reply #66 - Feb 18th, 2023 at 6:59pm
 
NSW health data

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Reply #67 - Feb 20th, 2023 at 11:03pm
 
Interesting article it's long with plenty of info

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Safety of COVID-19 Vaccines in Patients with Autoimmune Diseases, in Patients with Cardiac Issues, and in the Healthy Population


Published: 2 February 2023

Abstract
We debate the real necessity of administering these products with unclear long-term effects to at-risk people with autoimmune conditions, as well as to healthy people, at the time of omicron variants.

The developed products with genetic bases are used mainly in high-income countries (the USA, Europe, Australia), and the use of mRNA-based vaccines is predominant [6,7 Variability of the SARS-CoV-2 virus is challenging, and the vaccines cannot effectively reduce virus spread

Currently, the real effectiveness of mRNA vaccines against Omicron variants is unclear and seems to be lower than that obtained with previous variants, even with a fourth dose [9,10]. Indeed, there are studies showing that, after several months following inoculation, the protection against COVID-19 disease obtained with mRNA vaccines almost completely wanes, unless further doses are taken, and this was noticed already at the time of the spreading of the Delta variant

Because there are people that have been negatively affected by the COVID-19 vaccinations—as some people have developed conditions including inflammatory cardiomyopathy, such as myocarditis or pericarditis, as well as neurological problems, thrombosis [17,18,19,20,21,22], and other more rare syndromes—it is possible that repeated boosts increase the occurrence of the mentioned adverse events. Given that Omicron variants appear more infectious but less lethal [23,24], the risk/benefit calculation, as underlined by a recent publication [18], may likely require updating.

Most importantly, inflammatory cardiomyopathy (myocarditis/pericarditis) seems to be among the predominant unwanted side effects of the genetic vaccines

2.2. Risk of Myo/Pericarditis in COVID-19 Infections and COVID-19 Vaccines
Of particular importance are myocarditis and pericarditis, partly because they determine undeniable long-term effects of the adverse event of vaccination. It was not clear immediately after the mass inoculation started that COVID-19 genetic vaccines could be associated with myocarditis/pericarditis and at which frequency.

For the calculation of the risk/benefit ratio, it is crucial to address whether COVID-19 really constitutes, for example, a major risk of myo/pericarditis as compared to the vaccines. An interesting study is worth mentioning: frequency of myo/pericarditis was examined in a longer follow-up period and in a high number of unvaccinated people in Israel who were recovering from COVID-19 disease [64]. Surprisingly, this study did not detect any increased risk of myo/pericarditis in people that had COVID-19. This is interesting because of the high number of people that were analyzed and the longer follow-up compared to the former studies. These findings seem to contradict data from the CDC

One last consideration about the cited papers on vaccine-induced myo/pericarditis is that some of these studies consider only events recorded in hospitals, thus excluding outpatients and underestimating subclinical cases (identified through instrumental/lab tests). Most studies tend to exclude from the count the events occurring in people with previous COVID-19, as the events are attributed to COVID-19.

A recent study found a very high risk of myocarditis in young adults, and the authors discuss how booster mandates at universities in the USA are expected to cause net harm in that per each COVID-19 hospitalization prevented, one can forecast at least 18.5 serious adverse events from mRNA vaccines.

Lastly, a recent study should still be mentioned for two reasons: frequency of cardiac manifestation and cost of monitoring people after vaccination. This study represents an active although limited survey of young people at school. In this study, after analyzing 4928 students after the second dose of the mRNA vaccine, the authors found that 17.1% of the students were affected with cardiac abnormalities.

4. Possible Mechanisms of COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine-Induced Tissue/Organ Damage and Virus Immune Evasion Strategies

4.1. Spreading and Persistence of the SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein in the Body

At the beginning of the COVID-19 immunization campaign, many mass media and organs of health services all over the world repeated that the inoculated material would remain in the deltoid muscle, and only for a few days. The perception by the public was that the mRNA is quickly degraded, which does not apply to the modified mRNA used in the COVID-19 vaccines [100,103,106]. Bio-distribution studies, such as in ref. [103], on liposome micro-particles (LNPs) showed that the material does not stop at the inoculation site.

Much more here- https://www.mdpi.com/2076-0817/12/2/233


The spike protein your body makes from the vax isn't behaving like claimed from Pharma and their government lackeys. It's showing up in autopsies in other organs where it isn't supposed to be.
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Reply #68 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 3:41pm
 
UK is less than 80% vaxxed.

If you had to pay for vax out of your own pocket you would be asking for a refund.

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Reply #69 - Mar 9th, 2023 at 7:49am
 
Senator Alex Antic on COVID vaccinations….
Time for a liberty audit.
I have put it up here on 2 different media platforms in case some can’t get into Facebook.


https://fb.watch/j8KN2DO9hA/?mibextid=uc01c0

https://www.bitchute.com/video/m79I3DRwJXBn/
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Reply #71 - Mar 14th, 2023 at 9:08am
 
Geoff or Carl out on the weekend.

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Reply #72 - Mar 17th, 2023 at 12:45am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 1st, 2023 at 1:44pm:
There is misinformation that being unvaxxed makes you many times more likely to end up in Hospital or ICU.
The data for NSW doesn't support this myth.

Quote:
NSW Respiratory Surveillance Report - week ending 19 November 2022

         Data for hospital and ICU
Unvaxxed        0                 0
1 shot             4                 0
2 shots           59                4
3 shots          114               18
4 or more      214              23
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-overvie...

NSW Respiratory Surveillance Report - week ending 26 November 2022
                   Hospital         ICU
Unvaxxed       3                  0
1 shot            6                  0
2 shots          80                10
3 shots          142               9
4 or more      249               12
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-overvie...

NSW Respiratory Surveillance Report - week ending 03 December 2022
                    Hospital         ICU
Unvaxxed       0                   0
1 Clot shot     8                    3
2 clot shots    85                  4
3 clot shots    170                15
4 or more      296                 18
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-overvie...

NSW Respiratory Surveillance Report - week ending 10 December 2022
                    hospital         icu
Unvaxxed       1                  0
1 shot            3                  1
2 shots          95                 11
3 shots          163               12
4 or more      345               31
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-overvie...


Data clearly shows 4 or more clot shots have highest number of hospital admissions, icu admissions and deaths.

Those who are unvaxxed have the lowest rates.

Why are those with 4 or more clot shots having the highest number of serious infections?

Was Geert VandenBosssche who spent his life working for every major vaccine maker along with employment with Bill and Melinda Gates foundation right with these vaccines being a huge mistake?

When you induce (vaccine) your immune system to fight this virus it overpowers your innate (natural immune system) leaving you vulnerable to new variants. It can't be undone.Starting to look like Geert was right with this.

When we look at the numbers of those who have received clot shots the difference between those who have had 4 or more compared to none is stunning in hospital numbers.

The myth the unvaxxed are hospitalised for covid at far greater rates is busted it's bullshit. Does anyone want to do the maths on this?








How many people still believe the lies Fauci told?

If you questioned this by not following his narrative you were accused of spreading misinformation you were censored banned from social media and discredited. All potential whistleblowers were shut down with Orwellian tactics.


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Reply #73 - Mar 17th, 2023 at 4:11pm
 

Just watched Thursday's show. WOW. The first 20 minutes were jaw-dropping.


https://www.steynonline.com/13331/the-show-ofcom-wont-let-you-see

What did I do that was so jaw-dropping? Nothing much: I simply noted the obvious problem with the constraints Ofcom had imposed on broadcasters in the wake of an unknown virus and a draconian and unprecedented state reaction to it. And then I read out various numbers from the UK Health Security Agency's April vaccine surveillance reports. Which apparently is not something that happens on other TV networks.

What follows is also of enduring relevance in a western world still operating under Covid constraints: My friend Leilani Dowding was on hand to comment on Covid's damage to free speech, followed by a former Mr Universe, Eddy Ellwood, who opened his gym in defiance of Matt Hancock et al, and promptly got fined 55,000 quid. Which is outrageous.

We rounded out the hour with Rod Liddle on a largely forgotten and failed prime minister, and with a lesson from Liberia for Boris Johnson's genitals.

To watch the show, simply click above. Per Ofcom's ruling, you will never see it again on UK TV - at least not until after I win my lawsuit.
Mark Steyn.
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Reply #74 - Mar 19th, 2023 at 3:42pm
 
Nice video of vaccine efficacy news reports starting with 100% effective all the way down to less than 20% after 6 months then boosters are needed.

Big Pharma lied then got found out when it became obvious vaccines didn't work as well as they claimed.

Funny thing is quite a few still believe these vaccines offer protection against covid.

Amusing to watch how headlines changed with vax.  Grin

https://twitter.com/NfTipto/status/1635460981772910592

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