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Foreign Government Spending at Trump Hotel
Nov 15^th, 2022 at 9:54pm

The plot thickens, and Trump's defence thins...

Officials from six nations spent more than $750,000 at the failed president's
hotel in Washington when they were seeking to influence his administration,
renting rooms for more than $10,000 per night, according to documents that
his former accounting firm turned over to Congress.

The governments of Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates,
Turkey and China spent more money than previously known at the Trump
International Hotel at crucial times in 2017 and 2018 for those countries’
relations with the United States, according to the documents.

The documents build on the public record of how Trump’s hotel brought in
millions during his presidency from foreign governments. The Committee
has previously estimated that the hotel received more than $3.75 million
from foreign governments from 2017 to 2020, raising concerns about possible
violations of the US Constitution’s foreign emoluments clause.

Quote:

The Foreign Emoluments Clause is a provision in Article I, Section 9, Clause 8
of the United States Constitution, that prohibits the federal government from
granting titles of nobility, and restricts members of the federal government from
receiving gifts, emoluments, offices or titles from foreign states and monarchies
without the consent of the United States Congress. Also known as the Titles of
Nobility Clause, it was designed to shield the federal officeholders of the United
States against so-called "corrupting foreign influences.

They provide a revealing window into how foreign governments spent heavily at
the hotel during key months when they were trying to influence Trump’s
administration. The documents also show that Republican lobbyists working on
behalf of these countries—some operating without registering as foreign agents,
as required by law—spent tens of thousands more at the Trump hotel during the
same periods.

The documents "sharply call into question the extent to which Trump was guided
by his personal financial interest while in office rather than the best interests of
the American people".

—Excerpted from the NYT, 14 November 2022.

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Re: Foreign Government Spending at Trump Hotel
Reply #1 - Nov 16^th, 2022 at 7:52am

IoAusGeoff wrote on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 9:54pm:

The plot thickens, and Trump's defence thins...

Officials from six nations spent more than $750,000 at the failed president's
hotel in Washington when they were seeking to influence his administration,
renting rooms for more than $10,000 per night, according to documents that
his former accounting firm turned over to Congress.

The governments of Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates,
Turkey and China spent more money than previously known at the Trump
International Hotel at crucial times in 2017 and 2018 for those countries’
relations with the United States, according to the documents.

The documents build on the public record of how Trump’s hotel brought in
millions during his presidency from foreign governments. The Committee
has previously estimated that the hotel received more than $3.75 million
from foreign governments from 2017 to 2020, raising concerns about possible
violations of the US Constitution’s foreign emoluments clause.

Quote:

The Foreign Emoluments Clause is a provision in Article I, Section 9, Clause 8
of the United States Constitution, that prohibits the federal government from
granting titles of nobility, and restricts members of the federal government from
receiving gifts, emoluments, offices or titles from foreign states and monarchies
without the consent of the United States Congress. Also known as the Titles of
Nobility Clause, it was designed to shield the federal officeholders of the United
States against so-called "corrupting foreign influences.

They provide a revealing window into how foreign governments spent heavily at
the hotel during key months when they were trying to influence Trump’s
administration. The documents also show that Republican lobbyists working on
behalf of these countries—some operating without registering as foreign agents,
as required by law—spent tens of thousands more at the Trump hotel during the
same periods.

The documents "sharply call into question the extent to which Trump was guided
by his personal financial interest while in office rather than the best interests of
the American people".

—Excerpted from the NYT, 14 November 2022.

Well...... hotels. You know, rented rooms.

Do you think Trump was managing the bookings personally from the WH?? Or that he should have instructed his hotels not to rent rooms to foreigners, Republicans- only to his political enemies who would never rent them?

How much did foreigners- Chinese, Russians, Ukrainians - give to Hunter Biden and Biden's brother while Big Joey was VP? What was the "10% to the big guy"? Room service in Trump hotels?

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Re: Foreign Government Spending at Trump Hotel
Reply #2 - Nov 17^th, 2022 at 11:21am

Meanwhile .................all the way back in Jan 2017

Speaking at Mr Trump's first news conference since he was elected in November, Ms Dillon explained that all of the Trump Organization's businesses would be transferred to a trust controlled by his sons and the chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, before Mr Trump takes power on 20 January.

"Together, Don, Eric, and Allen will have the authority to manage the Trump Organization and will make decisions for the duration of the presidency without any involvement whatsoever by President-elect Trump," said Ms Dillon, whose firm Morgan, Lewis and Bockius has been instructed by Mr Trump to draw up a structure to keep his business interests separate.

Ms Dillon added that an ethics adviser would be appointed to the management board of the trust to oversee any potential conflicts of interest

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Re: Foreign Government Spending at Trump Hotel
Reply #3 - Nov 17^th, 2022 at 12:39pm

Frank wrote on Nov 16^th, 2022 at 7:52am:

IoAusGeoff wrote on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 9:54pm:

The plot thickens, and Trump's defence thins...

Officials from six nations spent more than $750,000 at the failed president's
hotel in Washington when they were seeking to influence his administration,
renting rooms for more than $10,000 per night, according to documents that
his former accounting firm turned over to Congress.

The governments of Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates,
Turkey and China spent more money than previously known at the Trump
International Hotel at crucial times in 2017 and 2018 for those countries’
relations with the United States, according to the documents.

The documents build on the public record of how Trump’s hotel brought in
millions during his presidency from foreign governments. The Committee
has previously estimated that the hotel received more than $3.75 million
from foreign governments from 2017 to 2020, raising concerns about possible
violations of the US Constitution’s foreign emoluments clause.

Quote:

The Foreign Emoluments Clause is a provision in Article I, Section 9, Clause 8
of the United States Constitution, that prohibits the federal government from
granting titles of nobility, and restricts members of the federal government from
receiving gifts, emoluments, offices or titles from foreign states and monarchies
without the consent of the United States Congress. Also known as the Titles of
Nobility Clause, it was designed to shield the federal officeholders of the United
States against so-called "corrupting foreign influences.

They provide a revealing window into how foreign governments spent heavily at
the hotel during key months when they were trying to influence Trump’s
administration. The documents also show that Republican lobbyists working on
behalf of these countries—some operating without registering as foreign agents,
as required by law—spent tens of thousands more at the Trump hotel during the
same periods.

The documents "sharply call into question the extent to which Trump was guided
by his personal financial interest while in office rather than the best interests of
the American people".

—Excerpted from the NYT, 14 November 2022.

Well...... hotels. You know, rented rooms.

Do you think Trump was managing the bookings personally from the WH?? Or that he should have instructed his hotels not to rent rooms to foreigners, Republicans- only to his political enemies who would never rent them?

How much did foreigners- Chinese, Russians, Ukrainians - give to Hunter Biden and Biden's brother while Big Joey was VP? What was the "10% to the big guy"? Room service in Trump hotels?

Oh, I can answer that, dear boy.

Nothing. No government has been found to have paid Joe Biden money whilst VP, indirectly or otherwise.

In Mr Trump's case, those suites were booked as the price of doing business with the Trump administration, as every Washington schoolboy knows.

Mr Trump owned the Trump Washington and directly profited - while he was Prez.

Your silly Hunter hissy is no more than a huffy old ruse. Hunter Biden was a member of a registered lobby group, all declared.

Foreign governments who wanted access to the White House stayed at the Trump. They enjoyed breakfast with Jared and Ivanka. They paid up, did their business and went home, nothing on the books at all.

Completely dodgy as you well know, but then, you've always been a fan of a certain type of criminal haven't you, dear boy?

His name begins with a T.

You?

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Re: Foreign Government Spending at Trump Hotel
Reply #4 - Nov 17^th, 2022 at 1:13pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 17^th, 2022 at 12:39pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 16^th, 2022 at 7:52am:

IoAusGeoff wrote on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 9:54pm:

The plot thickens, and Trump's defence thins...

Officials from six nations spent more than $750,000 at the failed president's
hotel in Washington when they were seeking to influence his administration,
renting rooms for more than $10,000 per night, according to documents that
his former accounting firm turned over to Congress.

The governments of Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates,
Turkey and China spent more money than previously known at the Trump
International Hotel at crucial times in 2017 and 2018 for those countries’
relations with the United States, according to the documents.

The documents build on the public record of how Trump’s hotel brought in
millions during his presidency from foreign governments. The Committee
has previously estimated that the hotel received more than $3.75 million
from foreign governments from 2017 to 2020, raising concerns about possible
violations of the US Constitution’s foreign emoluments clause.

Quote:

The Foreign Emoluments Clause is a provision in Article I, Section 9, Clause 8
of the United States Constitution, that prohibits the federal government from
granting titles of nobility, and restricts members of the federal government from
receiving gifts, emoluments, offices or titles from foreign states and monarchies
without the consent of the United States Congress. Also known as the Titles of
Nobility Clause, it was designed to shield the federal officeholders of the United
States against so-called "corrupting foreign influences.

They provide a revealing window into how foreign governments spent heavily at
the hotel during key months when they were trying to influence Trump’s
administration. The documents also show that Republican lobbyists working on
behalf of these countries—some operating without registering as foreign agents,
as required by law—spent tens of thousands more at the Trump hotel during the
same periods.

The documents "sharply call into question the extent to which Trump was guided
by his personal financial interest while in office rather than the best interests of
the American people".

—Excerpted from the NYT, 14 November 2022.

Well...... hotels. You know, rented rooms.

Do you think Trump was managing the bookings personally from the WH?? Or that he should have instructed his hotels not to rent rooms to foreigners, Republicans- only to his political enemies who would never rent them?

How much did foreigners- Chinese, Russians, Ukrainians - give to Hunter Biden and Biden's brother while Big Joey was VP? What was the "10% to the big guy"? Room service in Trump hotels?

Oh, I can answer that, dear boy.

Nothing. No government has been found to have paid Joe Biden money whilst VP, indirectly or otherwise.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-54553132

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Re: Foreign Government Spending at Trump Hotel
Reply #5 - Nov 17^th, 2022 at 1:26pm

a. Trump was not a 'failed President' - he was a one term President and is now seeking another gig...

b. Business is business... a business entity is not the same as the ultimate owner.... and if that owner is not directly involved there is no conflict.

Another Yank politics torm in a steacup.... just trying to get a wedge in...

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Re: Foreign Government Spending at Trump Hotel
Reply #6 - Nov 17^th, 2022 at 2:26pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 17^th, 2022 at 1:26pm:

a. Trump was not a 'failed President' - ...

Of course not.

He only failed to win the popular vote twice, failed to stay in the White House after one term, failed to hold on to the senate, failed to hold on to the house, failed to prevent impeachment twice, and failed to carry out any of his key election promises.

Why, that's the definition of success right there.

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Re: Foreign Government Spending at Trump Hotel
Reply #8 - Nov 17^th, 2022 at 5:39pm

Frank wrote on Nov 17^th, 2022 at 1:13pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 17^th, 2022 at 12:39pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 16^th, 2022 at 7:52am:

IoAusGeoff wrote on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 9:54pm:

The plot thickens, and Trump's defence thins...

Officials from six nations spent more than $750,000 at the failed president's
hotel in Washington when they were seeking to influence his administration,
renting rooms for more than $10,000 per night, according to documents that
his former accounting firm turned over to Congress.

The governments of Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates,
Turkey and China spent more money than previously known at the Trump
International Hotel at crucial times in 2017 and 2018 for those countries’
relations with the United States, according to the documents.

The documents build on the public record of how Trump’s hotel brought in
millions during his presidency from foreign governments. The Committee
has previously estimated that the hotel received more than $3.75 million
from foreign governments from 2017 to 2020, raising concerns about possible
violations of the US Constitution’s foreign emoluments clause.

Quote:

The Foreign Emoluments Clause is a provision in Article I, Section 9, Clause 8
of the United States Constitution, that prohibits the federal government from
granting titles of nobility, and restricts members of the federal government from
receiving gifts, emoluments, offices or titles from foreign states and monarchies
without the consent of the United States Congress. Also known as the Titles of
Nobility Clause, it was designed to shield the federal officeholders of the United
States against so-called "corrupting foreign influences.

They provide a revealing window into how foreign governments spent heavily at
the hotel during key months when they were trying to influence Trump’s
administration. The documents also show that Republican lobbyists working on
behalf of these countries—some operating without registering as foreign agents,
as required by law—spent tens of thousands more at the Trump hotel during the
same periods.

The documents "sharply call into question the extent to which Trump was guided
by his personal financial interest while in office rather than the best interests of
the American people".

—Excerpted from the NYT, 14 November 2022.

Well...... hotels. You know, rented rooms.

Do you think Trump was managing the bookings personally from the WH?? Or that he should have instructed his hotels not to rent rooms to foreigners, Republicans- only to his political enemies who would never rent them?

How much did foreigners- Chinese, Russians, Ukrainians - give to Hunter Biden and Biden's brother while Big Joey was VP? What was the "10% to the big guy"? Room service in Trump hotels?

Oh, I can answer that, dear boy.

Nothing. No government has been found to have paid Joe Biden money whilst VP, indirectly or otherwise.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-54553132

That's an article about allegations by the New York Post, old boy, Rupert's half-hearted attempt to get your Dear Leader erected last time round.

Better luck next erection, dear boy.

Sleepy Joe's right. It is indeed a smear campaign, one level up from Pizzagate. Your Dear Leader had his hand in the till as El President. No one's even denying it - least of all: you.

Cheesy

indeed, no?

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Reply #10 - Nov 17^th, 2022 at 5:59pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 17^th, 2022 at 3:14pm:

gweggy is jealous

trump has a gold toilet.

joe has an incontience diaper.

i hope they have plastic sheets on the beds in the white house and can get rid of the old man smell before ron and his young family move in

And yet, Sleepy Joe Biden beat your Dear Leader from a basement, dressed in his carpet slippers. Alas, no gold toilet required. He's right at home in the White House.

Mr Trump is back sitting on his toilet, Aquascoot. I'm not so sure he notices what it's made of anymore. I believe the novelty wore off in 1986, after he beat Alan Bond in the gold toilet stakes.

They both ended up bankrupt, but I'm curious. What kind of man knocks the big fella off the stage after one term in office to become the most powerful man in the world from a basement with a simple porcelain toilet?

No elite country clubs, no hot-babe filly, no porn-star prostitutes. A modest sedan, driving down the freeway with his Dr wife by his side, nagging.

What kind of man? Why, not so much a man as a God, dear. A man we need to study - preferably for a minimum of five years.

Imagine, he beat the guy with the gold toilet and the reality TV show and all those paid-up political connections into the dustbin of history with an ice cream in his hand and without so much as a how do you do.

Forget the Don, dear, Sleepy Joe's the guy you need to study.

Success breeds success, no?

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Reply #11 - Nov 17^th, 2022 at 6:04pm

Frank wrote on Nov 16^th, 2022 at 7:52am:

IoAusGeoff wrote on Nov 15^th, 2022 at 9:54pm:

The plot thickens, and Trump's defence thins...

Officials from six nations spent more than $750,000 at the failed president's
hotel in Washington when they were seeking to influence his administration,
renting rooms for more than $10,000 per night, according to documents that
his former accounting firm turned over to Congress.

The governments of Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates,
Turkey and China spent more money than previously known at the Trump
International Hotel at crucial times in 2017 and 2018 for those countries’
relations with the United States, according to the documents.

The documents build on the public record of how Trump’s hotel brought in
millions during his presidency from foreign governments. The Committee
has previously estimated that the hotel received more than $3.75 million
from foreign governments from 2017 to 2020, raising concerns about possible
violations of the US Constitution’s foreign emoluments clause.

Quote:

The Foreign Emoluments Clause is a provision in Article I, Section 9, Clause 8
of the United States Constitution, that prohibits the federal government from
granting titles of nobility, and restricts members of the federal government from
receiving gifts, emoluments, offices or titles from foreign states and monarchies
without the consent of the United States Congress. Also known as the Titles of
Nobility Clause, it was designed to shield the federal officeholders of the United
States against so-called "corrupting foreign influences.

They provide a revealing window into how foreign governments spent heavily at
the hotel during key months when they were trying to influence Trump’s
administration. The documents also show that Republican lobbyists working on
behalf of these countries—some operating without registering as foreign agents,
as required by law—spent tens of thousands more at the Trump hotel during the
same periods.

The documents "sharply call into question the extent to which Trump was guided
by his personal financial interest while in office rather than the best interests of
the American people".

—Excerpted from the NYT, 14 November 2022.

Well...... hotels. You know, rented rooms.

Do you think Trump was managing the bookings personally from the WH?? Or that he should have instructed his hotels not to rent rooms to foreigners, Republicans- only to his political enemies who would never rent them?

How much did foreigners- Chinese, Russians, Ukrainians - give to Hunter Biden and Biden's brother while Big Joey was VP? What was the "10% to the big guy"? Room service in Trump hotels?

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Reply #12 - Nov 17^th, 2022 at 6:10pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 17^th, 2022 at 1:26pm:

a. Trump was not a 'failed President' - he was a one term President and is now seeking another gig...

b. Business is business... a business entity is not the same as the ultimate owner.... and if that owner is not directly involved there is no conflict.

Another Yank politics torm in a steacup.... just trying to get a wedge in...

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Trump was not a 'failed President'

Investigated, twice impeached, thrown out of office after 1 term, half his election team went to prison and followed a direction on covid that resulted in the death of over a Million US citizens. No he was the greatest failure of all failed Presidents by a country mile.

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Reply #13 - Nov 17^th, 2022 at 6:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 17^th, 2022 at 5:45pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 17^th, 2022 at 3:14pm:

gweggy is jealous

trump has a gold toilet.

joe has an incontience diaper.

i hope they have plastic sheets on the beds in the white house and can get rid of the old man smell before ron and his young family move in

Still given up on alleged child rapist 45 Grin

Look, the Superior Man merely changes horses when their shoes start to slip and they start growing grey.

Oh, he makes all the right noises about clover and sunny pastures, but he ultimately sends them off to the knacker's and pockets $20 for the glue supply.

Aquascoot's no different. He's been studying the Superior Man for at least a decade. Read your Paretto: one plays by the rules of the game itself. Once they stop winning it's game over.

It's best not to be sentimental about these things, Greggery, it's how nature intended it. Like the barren wife and the prostitute who loses her looks, today's prize-winning stallion is tomorrow's dog food.

Read your Karl Marx. Aquascoot's become quite a fan of late.

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Reply #14 - Nov 17^th, 2022 at 6:45pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 17^th, 2022 at 6:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 17^th, 2022 at 5:45pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 17^th, 2022 at 3:14pm:

gweggy is jealous

trump has a gold toilet.

joe has an incontience diaper.

i hope they have plastic sheets on the beds in the white house and can get rid of the old man smell before ron and his young family move in

Still given up on alleged child rapist 45 Grin

Look, the Superior Man merely changes horses when their shoes start to slip and they start growing grey.

Oh, he makes all the right noises about clover and sunny pastures, but he ultimately sends them off to the knacker's and pockets $20 for the glue supply.

Aquascoot's no different. He's been studying the Superior Man for at least a decade. Read your Paretto: one plays by the rules of the game itself. Once they stop winning it's game over.

It's best not to be sentimental about these things, Greggery, it's how nature intended it. Like the barren wife and the prostitute who loses her looks, today's prize-winning stallion is tomorrow's dog food.

Read your Karl Marx. Aquascoot's become quite a fan of late.

It's about policies, paki bugger:

Border security
Electoral integrity
Inflation
Industry
Energy independence
Toxic wokery wankery
China
Crime
International leadership
Gretaesque climate insanity
Etc.

The reaction to Trump shows that these are the significant matters. Not personality cult, not Xi, Stalin, Mao, Whitlam etc.

Proggy shites like you, gwggy, Pelosi, Schumer et al yapping and seething just demonstrates that these are the garlic rosaries to you, vampires. Whether Don or Ron drives the stake through your black hearts is secondary.

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