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Reply #105 - Dec 1^st, 2022 at 8:13pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 1^st, 2022 at 7:57pm:

Meanwhile the democracies are in decline, as inequality soars on the back of individual rights/freedom.

Again, you have never met anyone who has experienced life in China under the CCP.

Inequality and poverty are rife and blatantly evident throughout the country. Corruption runs deep in China and has been for generations.

Democracy is not in decline not least as evidenced by the world's democracys' massive capacity to unite and support Ukraine.

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Reply #106 - Dec 1^st, 2022 at 8:15pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 1^st, 2022 at 7:57pm:

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I'm guessing you have not lived under a totalitarian regime or have family who've lived under one or know anyone who has

I know you are an unbalanced, paranoid, individual rights/freedom ideologue, projecting all the failures of your ideology onto the CCP.

So, you've not lived under a totalitarian regime or have family who've lived under one or know anyone who has, then.

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Reply #107 - Dec 2^nd, 2022 at 6:24am

It's odd that TGD keeps talking about inequality soaring in the west. The only place it is soaring is China. Not that long ago they were starving to death on a relatively equal basis. Now there is more inequality than most western countries. Though they are still dirt poor in comparison. Meanwhile our social security payments are more than double the median Chinese wage, and they are headed for another Mao-style great leap backwards.

He imagines a better China, and the downfall of the west. Or at least, a China that is better than the west. But the only evidence he has for this is his imagination. It is all the future, riding on the promise of CCP propaganda. How can a people who were starved to death in the millions by their own government still be so naive?

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Reply #108 - Dec 2^nd, 2022 at 9:10am

Well, it seems that protests (people power) have had some effect on the Xi faction of the CCP - Indications are that covid restrictions in China are to be lifted.

But how to get there without the CCP admitting the whole thing was a malevolent farce? Blame provincial and regional administrations for the mess, of course.

Yes, apparently the central government is claiming its instructions were not correctly implemented or ignored at the local level.

Apparently, the central CCP government never intended for lockdowns to be as harsh as they became and had instructed the regional authorities to relax them; but thems bad boys on the ground done didn't do that.

This is a time-tested coward's gambit firmly established by Mao and persists today with Phat Phuk (AKA, Xi).

Of course, what the central government actually did was instruct an easing of restrictions but demanded that such easing must not cause a rise in covid levels above pre-determined quotas, leaving the local administrations hog-tied and without assistance from the central government - like vaccines that actually work.

It's this quota system (another of Mao's malevolent ideas), that is the root cause of many of China's horrendous systemic problems, along with entrenched and state-sanctioned corruption.

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Reply #109 - Dec 2^nd, 2022 at 9:21am

freediver wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2022 at 6:24am:

He imagines a better China, and the downfall of the west. Or at least, a China that is better than the west. But the only evidence he has for this is his imagination. It is all the future, riding on the promise of CCP propaganda. How can a people who were starved to death in the millions by their own government still be so naive?

And it would have to be imagination-driven.

Like the Russians, in their entire history as a society, the Chinese people have only ever known autocracy, authoritarianism, imperial dictatorship and totalitarianism.

They literally have no idea of any national systems of government other than ones that enforce their will by brutal and murderous subjugation.

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Reply #110 - Dec 2^nd, 2022 at 11:00am

And just when you thought the CCP could not be more xenophobic and paranoid - The CCP is now promoting the notion that 'foreign forces' have infiltrated China and are personally leading the protests from within China.

It's long been obvious that the CCP is a nest of cowards, terrified of the people they subjugate, but the outlandish notion that 'foreign forces' are regularly entering China - the most surveilled country in the world after North Korea - is crazy even by CCP standards.

The popular CCP critic, Winston Sterzel (serpentza), who lives in the US but previously spent 14 years living in China and is married to a Chinese wife, is being accused personally of covertly travelling to and from China to instigate riots.

This bizarre blame deflection not only exposes extreme CCP paranoia but also is indicative of how dangerous it could become when it runs out of excuses for the current civil unrest in China.

The CCP is not beyond perpetrating a massacre against the Chinese people if its paranoia reaches a sense of existential crisis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pZLMpddzrA

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Reply #111 - Dec 2^nd, 2022 at 11:01am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2022 at 9:21am:

freediver wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2022 at 6:24am:

He imagines a better China, and the downfall of the west. Or at least, a China that is better than the west. But the only evidence he has for this is his imagination. It is all the future, riding on the promise of CCP propaganda. How can a people who were starved to death in the millions by their own government still be so naive?

And it would have to be imagination-driven.

Like the Russians, in their entire history as a society, the Chinese people have only ever known autocracy, authoritarianism, imperial dictatorship and totalitarianism.

They literally have no idea of any national systems of government other than ones that enforce their will by brutal and murderous subjugation.

This is the highest level of hypocrisy that can come even from perfidious Albion.
Russia elected a head of state and in your Anglo-Khazarian Disneylands you never had the opportunity for such a thing.
Chinese leadership must go through a rigorous selection process based on strict meritocracy.
In your Anglo-Khazarian caste Disneylands, everything is based on "God's chosen people".

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Do we need to be always politically correct.
In the world of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

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Reply #112 - Dec 2^nd, 2022 at 11:06am

athos wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2022 at 11:01am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2022 at 9:21am:

freediver wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2022 at 6:24am:

He imagines a better China, and the downfall of the west. Or at least, a China that is better than the west. But the only evidence he has for this is his imagination. It is all the future, riding on the promise of CCP propaganda. How can a people who were starved to death in the millions by their own government still be so naive?

And it would have to be imagination-driven.

Like the Russians, in their entire history as a society, the Chinese people have only ever known autocracy, authoritarianism, imperial dictatorship and totalitarianism.

They literally have no idea of any national systems of government other than ones that enforce their will by brutal and murderous subjugation.

This is the highest level of hypocrisy that can come even from perfidious Albion.
Russia elected a head of state and in your Anglo-Khazarian Disneylands you never had the opportunity for such a thing.
Chinese leadership must go through a rigorous selection process based on strict meritocracy.
In your Anglo-Khazarian caste Disneylands, everything is based on "God's chosen people".

How's the cha bu duo explanation going?

Seems this having nothing to say is becoming contagious - Zhao Lijang could not answer the question about whether the CCP would be relaxing the covid restrictions in the wake of widespread protests, and so just stood there, saying nothing - some 'spokesman' !!

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Reply #114 - Dec 2^nd, 2022 at 12:05pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2022 at 12:01pm:

How nice are our media towards the Chinese people? Angry

Agenda driven at all?

[]https://youtu.be/O-IfKlE9Yn0[]

Your western privilege is showing.

Trudeau is an elected head of government. When the Canadian people tire of him they will see him off.

The Chinese people are stuck with the CCP and Phat Phuk, even if he orders their murder.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 48719 Gender:	Re: China- Uprisings Erupting Against CCP Across China Reply #117 - Dec 3^rd, 2022 at 12:27pm 我责怪英国和美国的政治创造了中共
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Reply #118 - Dec 3^rd, 2022 at 1:24pm

freediver wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2022 at 8:17am:

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Chinese leadership must go through a rigorous selection process based on strict meritocracy.

Isn't the CCP internally democratic?

How much merit do you think there is in starving 50 million of your own citizens to death by trying to feed them?

er..that happened 70 years ago. CCP understanding of macroeconomics has progressed since then, creating the fastest growth of any nation in history.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49091 At my desk.	Re: China- Uprisings Erupting Against CCP Across China Reply #119 - Dec 3^rd, 2022 at 1:33pm Quote: er..that happened 70 years ago Who told you that? Your CCP propaganda pamphlet? Quote: CCP understanding of macroeconomics has progressed since then Are you suggesting that starving 50 million people to death by trying to feed them was meritworthy in 1960?
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