freediver wrote on Dec 4^th, 2022 at 10:02am:


Already done, frauddiver. Elimination of absolute poverty AND the creation of billionaires in China, results in an increase in inequality.  But the trend now is toward 'common prosperity' by government decree.

Whereas stagnation of median wages and increasing claim of the wealthy in the US on the nation's output results in even higher inequality, with the trend moving in the wrong direction. 

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Addressed and refuted above...and where is the US....?

You are failing to recognize those countries have been 1st world countries for decades, without the majority ever  living in absolute poverty.   


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No, but your mindless parroting is irrelevant to CCP policies adopted since the 1980's.


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Addressed and refuted above. In Mao's era, Chinese gdp per capita was at absolute poverty levels. 

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That's correct , it's all you've  got to  defend your own failing economic system. with soaring inequality.


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Refuted above; and don't go visit Broome beaches or the black camps outside the Alice....where the economic conditions actually are responsible for a life expectancy reduction of a decade.

https://www.routledge.com/How-China-Escaped-Shock-Therapy-The-Market-Reform-Deba...

How China Escaped Shock Therapy
The Market Reform Debate


China has become deeply integrated into the world economy. Yet, gradual marketization has facilitated the country’s rise without leading to its wholesale assimilation to global neoliberalism. This book uncovers the fierce contest about economic reforms that shaped China’s path. In the first post-Mao decade, China’s reformers were sharply divided. They agreed that China had to reform its economic system and move toward more marketization—but struggled over how to go about it. Should China destroy the core of the socialist system through shock therapy, or should it use the institutions of the planned economy as market creators? With hindsight, the historical record proves the high stakes behind the question: China embarked on an economic expansion commonly described as unprecedented in scope and pace, whereas Russia’s economy collapsed under shock therapy. Based on extensive research, including interviews with key Chinese and international participants and World Bank officials as well as insights gleaned from unpublished documents, the book charts the debate that ultimately enabled China to follow a path to gradual reindustrialization. Beyond shedding light on the crossroads of the 1980s, it reveals the intellectual foundations of state-market relations in reform-era China through a longue durée lens. Overall, the book delivers an original perspective on China’s economic model and its continuing contestations from within and from without.

review:
JAMES K. GALBRAITH, The University of Texas at Austin, former Chief Technical adviser to China's State Planning Commission for macroeconomic reform

Isabella Weber's book gives an excellent historical overview of China's economic statecraft bringing the reader to the crucial period of market reforms and to the decision to avoid the full implementation of the neoliberal agenda, thus setting the stage for the fastest and longest growth in world history.

freediver wrote on Dec 4^th, 2022 at 11:15am:


No; simple maths, beyond you, obviously.

freediver wrote on Dec 4^th, 2022 at 11:43am:


No; that:

Isabella Weber's book gives an excellent historical overview of China's economic statecraft bringing the reader to the crucial period of market reforms and to the decision to avoid the full implementation of the neoliberal agenda, thus setting the stage for the fastest and longest growth in world history.

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 4^th, 2022 at 11:53am:


What trend? You say it is simple maths, but all I see is your imagination, and CCP propaganda.

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 4^th, 2022 at 11:58am:


Even our own governments regularly decide to avoid the full implementation of the neoliberal agenda. But only someone trained to be naive actually believes the decision to mark the end of change. It takes even more absurd naivete to to hold that belief in the face of the rapid transition that China is going through.

Why do you have such trouble thinking for yourself?

Jasin wrote on Dec 4^th, 2022 at 2:35pm:

Awwright, that's the third time, now.

Stroll around the grounds until you feel at home.

The view from the other side (Global Times):

The deaths of millions, or just statistics?

"And so it continued. The virus kept slaughtering Americans, and their media kept distracting them with bait, especially about China: the virus was created in a Chinese lab, China deliberately spread the virus to the world (or that China was incompetent or corrupt in letting it slip out, depending on which Western propagandist you asked), China is lying about its COVID figures, China is hiding its true death toll, Chinese vaccines don't work (but China is also engaging in "vaccine diplomacy"), China is hoarding masks and other equipment (but is also engaging in "mask diplomacy") … The propaganda was as self-contradictory as it was relentless."

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 4^th, 2022 at 5:11pm:


I see I am having trouble getting through to you.

Do you have any evidence for this new trend, or is it all in your imagination?