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Reply #180 - Dec 6th, 2022 at 5:46pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 6th, 2022 at 5:16pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 6th, 2022 at 12:33pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 6th, 2022 at 12:19pm:
But the a BRAVE media would have questioned the excessive government measures in both kinds of jurisdictions, not change its principles depending on what kind of government is enforcing excessive Covid rules. But Western media and commentariat feared for their own career and so they fell in with the government lines.

In the context of a panic situation, governments did what they thought was right - their politicians also having been driven by panic - even if that was to blindly follow the moves of the first to react - a totalitarian regime.

Panic is the enemy of reason; the antithesis of reason, so yes it's inevitable that institutions yield to its force in the absence of any other plan.

However, the democracies didn't take the opportunity to indulge in an orgy of inhuman brutality, as the CCP did, and continued to do until the Chinese people found out the CCP was lying to them about the need for brutal measures.


Western Governments copied the totalitarian panic response, to the point of beating, arresting their own people and making their lives impossible by not allowing them to work and run their businesses, even though NONE of the Western pandemic plans included lockdown and draconian totalitarian measures. All Western governments, except Sweden, threw out their own pandemic response plans in order to imitate Xi Who Must Be Obeyed.

Western politicians' instincts were shown to be exactly the same as the instincts of the hideous Chinese Commies: not trusting their own people whose servants they are supposed to be and by whose grace they are in power, but treating them as the internal enemy needing suppression and control. If anything, the MSM questioned governments that did NOT act like the CCP.


Western governments followed the Chinese example with lockdowns after the CCP flaunted false figures about their massive success, claiming that they had zero covid transmission - it turned out to be another cha bu duo moment.

Data were either straight-out fabricated or covid-positive cases were bussed away from an area when that area was being tested, such that cases reported were few to none, then sent back to their homes after the general check. The other covid cases were included from the second area prior to its general check. Rinse and repeat until each locale, town and city were reporting near-zero figures.

The WHO accepted these reported figures out of hand and advised world medical seniors that lockdowns worked.
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Reply #181 - Dec 6th, 2022 at 5:59pm
 
Here's another fun fact - covid tests are not free. Each test must be paid for by the person being tested, and up to 3 times per week costing up to USD40 - USD50 per month -. If you're covid-positive, you are sent to a covid concentration camp where you must pay for your stay.

The testing process and building of the covid concentration camps are on a scale so massive that there are estimates that the income generated from fleecing the people makes up about 1.5% of China's GDP.

Covid concentration camps are the size of cities, with some quarantine camp boxes (that's all they are - boxes) along roads that stretch to the horizon.

The CCP is making so much money out of the zero-covid / quarantine farce that it's hard to imagine how it can be wound back without the central government losing a massively lucrative income.

When they want to fill the camps, the CCP simply turns people's covid health code on their phones to red.

What could replace it and keep the money rolling in?
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Reply #182 - Dec 6th, 2022 at 10:05pm
 
A warning to the world - The CCP is not abandoning zero covid.

As usual with the CCP, everything is a lie.

The CCP is at full steam building more covid concentration camp cities.

Even Orwell could not have imagined a dystopia this malevolent and dark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRNwqBKVWlw
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Reply #183 - Dec 6th, 2022 at 10:19pm
 
Pal, we all know the CCP is a bunch of grusome robotic fuqqheads.

What matters is that the 'democratically elected' Western governments have been copying them.  THAT  is at issue here.



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Reply #184 - Dec 6th, 2022 at 10:20pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 6th, 2022 at 10:19pm:
Pal, we all know the CCP is a bunch of grusome robotic fuqqheads.

What matters is that the 'democratically elected' Western governments have been copying them.


Have you been incarcerated in a covid concentration camp here?
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Reply #185 - Dec 7th, 2022 at 11:43am
 
I miss the Lockdowns.
Life was more peaceful and quiet and the air got fresher, the waters ran clearer.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #186 - Dec 7th, 2022 at 3:56pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 6th, 2022 at 5:46pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 6th, 2022 at 5:16pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 6th, 2022 at 12:33pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 6th, 2022 at 12:19pm:
But the a BRAVE media would have questioned the excessive government measures in both kinds of jurisdictions, not change its principles depending on what kind of government is enforcing excessive Covid rules. But Western media and commentariat feared for their own career and so they fell in with the government lines.

In the context of a panic situation, governments did what they thought was right - their politicians also having been driven by panic - even if that was to blindly follow the moves of the first to react - a totalitarian regime.

Panic is the enemy of reason; the antithesis of reason, so yes it's inevitable that institutions yield to its force in the absence of any other plan.

However, the democracies didn't take the opportunity to indulge in an orgy of inhuman brutality, as the CCP did, and continued to do until the Chinese people found out the CCP was lying to them about the need for brutal measures.


Western Governments copied the totalitarian panic response, to the point of beating, arresting their own people and making their lives impossible by not allowing them to work and run their businesses, even though NONE of the Western pandemic plans included lockdown and draconian totalitarian measures. All Western governments, except Sweden, threw out their own pandemic response plans in order to imitate Xi Who Must Be Obeyed.

Western politicians' instincts were shown to be exactly the same as the instincts of the hideous Chinese Commies: not trusting their own people whose servants they are supposed to be and by whose grace they are in power, but treating them as the internal enemy needing suppression and control. If anything, the MSM questioned governments that did NOT act like the CCP.


Western governments followed the Chinese example with lockdowns after the CCP flaunted false figures about their massive success, claiming that they had zero covid transmission - it turned out to be another cha bu duo moment.

Data were either straight-out fabricated or covid-positive cases were bussed away from an area when that area was being tested, such that cases reported were few to none, then sent back to their homes after the general check. The other covid cases were included from the second area prior to its general check. Rinse and repeat until each locale, town and city were reporting near-zero figures.

The WHO accepted these reported figures out of hand and advised world medical seniors that lockdowns worked.



Of course the Chinese lied - what's new?

That Western politicians bought it, knowingly. As did WHO. As did the Wester mainstream media.

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Reply #187 - Dec 7th, 2022 at 4:03pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 6th, 2022 at 10:20pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 6th, 2022 at 10:19pm:
Pal, we all know the CCP is a bunch of grusome robotic fuqqheads.

What matters is that the 'democratically elected' Western governments have been copying them.


Have you been incarcerated in a covid concentration camp here?


Silly question. 

Police stood by when the BLM kids marched during covid but clashed with anti- lockdown protesters. The media was equally two-faced, supporting the former protest but scathing about the much smaller latter.

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Reply #188 - Dec 7th, 2022 at 5:12pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 6th, 2022 at 10:19pm:
Pal, we all know the CCP is a bunch of grusome robotic fuqqheads.

What matters is that the 'democratically elected' Western governments have been copying them.  THAT  is at issue here.






well put
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Reply #189 - Dec 7th, 2022 at 5:21pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 7th, 2022 at 4:03pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 6th, 2022 at 10:20pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 6th, 2022 at 10:19pm:
Pal, we all know the CCP is a bunch of grusome robotic fuqqheads.

What matters is that the 'democratically elected' Western governments have been copying them.


Have you been incarcerated in a covid concentration camp here?


Silly question. 

Police stood by when the BLM kids marched during covid but clashed with anti- lockdown protesters. The media was equally two-faced, supporting the former protest but scathing about the much smaller latter.


So, no, of course you weren't incarcerated in a covid concentration camp here.

Did you personally protest the covid lockdowns?

Were any protesters disappeared after being arrested?

What was the general panic level of covid infection in 2021?
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Reply #190 - Dec 7th, 2022 at 5:28pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 7th, 2022 at 3:56pm:
Of course the Chinese lied - what's new?

That Western politicians bought it, knowingly. As did WHO. As did the Wester mainstream media.


How did western politicians know the CCP had lied to the degree that they did?

The CCP was only releasing good-news data and misinformation about the effectiveness of its lockdowns to the point of staging a mass public pool party in Wuhan at the end of its first lockdown to prove (and celebrate) that the virus spread had been beaten.
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Reply #191 - Dec 7th, 2022 at 5:57pm
 
This technology is no longer only present in China, however, as China begins to make international deals to install surveillance systems for other governments around the world.


In his research, Pr. Steven Feldman from Boise State University’s School of Public Service found that China is exporting AI-equipped surveillance technology to at least 54 “countries around the world

Growth in China’s political and economic relationships with the countries where it is installing these technologies is already apparent. An example of this is present in Uruguay, where China donated over 2,000 surveillance cameras to be used to control its borders between Argentina and Brazil. This donation strengthened their ties as Uruguay and China established a Strategic Partnership in October 2016, and signed a Memorandum of Understanding in August 2018 for Uruguay to join China’s Belt and Road Initiative, despite their great geographical distance. This relationship is peculiar, given the inherent tension between China’s repressive Communist government and Uruguay’s representative democracy. In fact, Uruguay is the most democratic and free country in Latin America, and eighth-freest in the world according to Freedom House’s Freedom in the World 2019 map.
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Reply #192 - Dec 7th, 2022 at 6:03pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 7th, 2022 at 5:57pm:
This technology is no longer only present in China, however, as China begins to make international deals to install surveillance systems for other governments around the world.


In his research, Pr. Steven Feldman from Boise State University’s School of Public Service found that China is exporting AI-equipped surveillance technology to at least 54 “countries around the world

Growth in China’s political and economic relationships with the countries where it is installing these technologies is already apparent. An example of this is present in Uruguay, where China donated over 2,000 surveillance cameras to be used to control its borders between Argentina and Brazil. This donation strengthened their ties as Uruguay and China established a Strategic Partnership in October 2016, and signed a Memorandum of Understanding in August 2018 for Uruguay to join China’s Belt and Road Initiative, despite their great geographical distance. This relationship is peculiar, given the inherent tension between China’s repressive Communist government and Uruguay’s representative democracy. In fact, Uruguay is the most democratic and free country in Latin America, and eighth-freest in the world according to Freedom House’s Freedom in the World 2019 map.

Any recent updates on this?

The attitude towards China under the CCP has darkened since 2018.
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Reply #193 - Dec 7th, 2022 at 6:35pm
 
Couldn't be any worse than the Democrat Americans.
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Reply #194 - Dec 7th, 2022 at 6:39pm
 
i couldnt see many governments reducing their surveillance capabilities, authoritarian or not.

are you allowed to carry a 200 ml bottle of shampoo in your carry on luggage, some 20 years after 9/11.

nope.

regulations and powers never go away.

governments love them.

and electric vehicles and block chain digital currency make government control a whole lot easier.

to think people used to think an "australia card" was going to restrict their liberties  Roll Eyes


Australia Card
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Australia Card was a proposal for a national identification card for Australian citizens and resident foreigners. The proposal was made in 1985, and abandoned in 1987.
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