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Reply #240 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 12:54pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 12:22pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 10:32am:
ha ha ... he didn't develop his "homo-erotic" argument, perhaps you can assist him....

You're no different to those men who developed the same fetish from afar for Hitler and Stalin.

This erotic fetish was not confined to men in the case of Hitler.

The Nazis quickly realised that Hitler's speeches, broadcast in the afternoon when women were at home and men were at work, were increasing the support and membership of the Nazi party.

It's not hard to imagine that wives would pester their less-than-enthusiastic husbands into attending local Nazi evening meetings and rallies.
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Reply #241 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 1:21pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 12:22pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 10:32am:
ha ha ... he didn't develop his "homo-erotic" argument, perhaps you can assist him....

You're no different to those men who developed the same fetish from afar for Hitler and Stalin.


The "fetish" was for an alternative to the failed capitalism of the Great Depression era.
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Reply #242 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 1:28pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 1:21pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 12:22pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 10:32am:
ha ha ... he didn't develop his "homo-erotic" argument, perhaps you can assist him....

You're no different to those men who developed the same fetish from afar for Hitler and Stalin.


The "fetish" was for an alternative to the failed capitalism of the Great Depression era.

And you chose a totalitarian dictatorship to deliver it, eh!

Totalitarianism invariably delivers the antithesis of equity, general well-being and common prosperity.

You'd know that if you'd ever met anyone who'd lived under a totalitarian regime.
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Re: China- Uprisings Erupting Against CCP Across China
Reply #243 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 1:36pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 12:54pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 12:22pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 10:32am:
ha ha ... he didn't develop his "homo-erotic" argument, perhaps you can assist him....

You're no different to those men who developed the same fetish from afar for Hitler and Stalin.

This erotic fetish was not confined to men in the case of Hitler.


Er ...you haven't explained why Hitler's attraction to German men was "homo-erotic".  In fact it was his genius communication skills, arousing nationalistic fervour. 

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The Nazis quickly realised that Hitler's speeches, broadcast in the afternoon when women were at home and men were at work, were increasing the support and membership of the Nazi party.


Support among German men and women: Hitler achieved wide-spread popularity by 1938.

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It's not hard to imagine that wives would pester their less-than-enthusiastic husbands into attending local Nazi evening meetings and rallies.


"Not hard to imagine".... you are scrapping the bottom of the barrel now....


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Reply #244 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 1:45pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 1:28pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 1:21pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 12:22pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 10:32am:
ha ha ... he didn't develop his "homo-erotic" argument, perhaps you can assist him....

You're no different to those men who developed the same fetish from afar for Hitler and Stalin.


The "fetish" was for an alternative to the failed capitalism of the Great Depression era.

And you chose a totalitarian dictatorship to deliver it, eh!


Er.. I wasn't alive then,  but I certainly want to rid the world of the failing neoliberal economic system currently oppressing the world (including China)  now. MMT offers a way forward, I hope China is also aware of the MMT debate.   

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Totalitarianism invariably delivers the antithesis of equity, general well-being and common prosperity.
 

No doubt; but hopefully the pragmatic CCP can achieve its goal of common prosperity, while exposing the "deceptive, generational, chronic" disadvantage which is systematized by Western free-market neoliberalism. 

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You'd know that if you'd ever met anyone who'd lived under a totalitarian regime.


Already addressed, parrot. Your ideology makes you a fundamentalist fool.
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Re: China- Uprisings Erupting Against CCP Across China
Reply #245 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 1:58pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 1:45pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 1:28pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 1:21pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 12:22pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 10:32am:
ha ha ... he didn't develop his "homo-erotic" argument, perhaps you can assist him....

You're no different to those men who developed the same fetish from afar for Hitler and Stalin.


The "fetish" was for an alternative to the failed capitalism of the Great Depression era.

And you chose a totalitarian dictatorship to deliver it, eh!


Er.. I wasn't alive then,  but I certainly want to rid the world of the failing neoliberal economic system currently oppressing the world (including China)  now. MMT offers a way forward, I hope China is also aware of the MMT debate.   

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Totalitarianism invariably delivers the antithesis of equity, general well-being and common prosperity.
 

No doubt; but hopefully the pragmatic CCP can achieve its goal of common prosperity, while exposing the "deceptive, generational, chronic" disadvantage which is systematized by Western free-market neoliberalism. 

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You'd know that if you'd ever met anyone who'd lived under a totalitarian regime.


Already addressed, parrot. Your ideology makes you a fundamentalist fool.

You clearly have had no intergenerational link to anyone who has lived through a totalitarian regime - that's one way of learning the truth of those regimes without personally having lived through them.

The CCP has no interest in common prosperity, it's interested in hierarchical prosperity for its apparatchiks and for those (in the Chinese context) with enough guanxi with the CCP.

This is recently evidenced by the CCP's refusal to allow non-Chinese vaccines to be used China and incarcerating millions of them in covid concentration camps. One of the issues raised by the protesters is that CCP seniors were not required to be quarantined in the camps.

You have a fetish for men who wield absolute power.
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Reply #246 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 3:36pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 1:36pm:
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It's not hard to imagine that wives would pester their less-than-enthusiastic husbands into attending local Nazi evening meetings and rallies.


"Not hard to imagine".... you are scrapping the bottom of the barrel now....

Ah, you've never been married or been in a long-term relationship, then.
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Reply #247 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 5:58pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 1:58pm:
You clearly have had no intergenerational link to anyone who has lived through a totalitarian regime - that's one way of learning the truth of those regimes without personally having lived through them.


My ideology is progressive, certainly; the past is a teacher, not a master. Truth about the past does not define the future.


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The CCP has no interest in common prosperity, it's interested in hierarchical prosperity for its apparatchiks and for those (in the Chinese context) with enough guanxi with the CCP.


There you go, parrot, lying garbage.

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This is recently evidenced by the CCP's refusal to allow non-Chinese vaccines to be used China and incarcerating millions of them in covid concentration camps. One of the issues raised by the protesters is that CCP seniors were not required to be quarantined in the camps.


Covid caused consternation and death all around the world.

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You have a fetish for men who wield absolute power.


Prove it, parrrot.  Rule by consensus meritocracy has nothing to do with a "fetish", even among those who jumped on the Thatcherite bandwagon. That's just ideological ineptitude.


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Reply #248 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 6:00pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 3:36pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 1:36pm:
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It's not hard to imagine that wives would pester their less-than-enthusiastic husbands into attending local Nazi evening meetings and rallies.


"Not hard to imagine".... you are scrapping the bottom of the barrel now....

Ah, you've never been married or been in a long-term relationship, then.


It's obvious how it went for you......
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Reply #249 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 6:51pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 1:21pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 12:22pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 10:32am:
ha ha ... he didn't develop his "homo-erotic" argument, perhaps you can assist him....

You're no different to those men who developed the same fetish from afar for Hitler and Stalin.


The "fetish" was for an alternative to the failed capitalism of the Great Depression era.


Do you think the CCP members got all turgid at the sight of 50 million dead Chinese peasants?
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Reply #250 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 8:12pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 6:00pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 3:36pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 1:36pm:
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It's not hard to imagine that wives would pester their less-than-enthusiastic husbands into attending local Nazi evening meetings and rallies.


"Not hard to imagine".... you are scrapping the bottom of the barrel now....

Ah, you've never been married or been in a long-term relationship, then.


It's obvious how it went for you......

So, you've never been married or been in a long-term relationship, then.
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Reply #251 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 8:14pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 5:58pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 1:58pm:
You clearly have had no intergenerational link to anyone who has lived through a totalitarian regime - that's one way of learning the truth of those regimes without personally having lived through them.


My ideology is progressive, certainly; the past is a teacher, not a master. Truth about the past does not define the future.

And yet the CCP is maintaining the same totalitarian ideologies as Stalin, Hitler and Mao.

You're fixated on the CCP and its supreme leader, not progressivism.
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Reply #252 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 8:18pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 5:58pm:
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The CCP has no interest in common prosperity, it's interested in hierarchical prosperity for its apparatchiks and for those (in the Chinese context) with enough guanxi with the CCP.


There you go, parrot, lying garbage.

So, you've never spoken to a Chinese person about how the CCP operates, then.

Have you lived your life in a basement?
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Reply #253 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 8:24pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 5:58pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 1:58pm:
You clearly have had no intergenerational link to anyone who has lived through a totalitarian regime - that's one way of learning the truth of those regimes without personally having lived through them.


My ideology is progressive, certainly; the past is a teacher, not a master. Truth about the past does not define the future.


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The CCP has no interest in common prosperity, it's interested in hierarchical prosperity for its apparatchiks and for those (in the Chinese context) with enough guanxi with the CCP.


There you go, parrot, lying garbage.

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This is recently evidenced by the CCP's refusal to allow non-Chinese vaccines to be used China and incarcerating millions of them in covid concentration camps. One of the issues raised by the protesters is that CCP seniors were not required to be quarantined in the camps.


Covid caused consternation and death all around the world.

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You have a fetish for men who wield absolute power.


Prove it, parrrot.  Rule by consensus meritocracy has nothing to do with a "fetish", even among those who jumped on the Thatcherite bandwagon. That's just ideological ineptitude.



This is moronic beyond belief.

A mindless parrot accusing his challengers, whose challenges he is too stupid to answer, of being parrots!!!  Cheesy

You are all mindless rhetorical puffery without any coherence.

Progress - where ar ed you heading and how will you know you have arrived. Where does the idea of progressing in that direction come from?

What dies define the future?

Where do  the ideas of consensus and meritocracy come from? How did they get combined?

What about the consensus on hierarchy- a principle we all live by and teach our children, in every age and political system?




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Reply #254 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 8:25pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 5:58pm:
Prove it, parrrot.  Rule by consensus meritocracy has nothing to do with a "fetish", even among those who jumped on the Thatcherite bandwagon. That's just ideological ineptitude.

The CCP does not rule by consensus meritocracy and doesn't even pretend to.

The 20th party congress proved that - a final purge of major anti-Xi factions, which was occurring by stealth over the last 10+ years under Xi and where Xi was elevated to supreme leader - exactly like Stalin, Hitler and Mao before him.

All of Xi's most trusted collaborators have been elevated to the highest status within the CCP regardless of their not having to demonstrate competency and experience other than an unswerving loyalty to Xi.

You have a fetish for men who wield absolute power.
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