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Reply #270 - Dec 13th, 2022 at 4:56pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:41pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 1:20pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 13th, 2022 at 12:24pm:
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Those elevated in the politburo have liitle to no demonstrated competence other than loyalty to Xi.


Xi himself rose through the ranks by consensus, and presumably, competence. 

Did he now? Do you know who Xi Jinping is? Who his father (Xi Zhongxun) was? How he managed to hide from Mao when Mao went on his rampage? Was his degree earned or bestowed? How did his marriage raise his profile with the CCP?


Er.....ethical "consensus" is arrived at by individuals competing with one another. What murders did Xi commit, on his way to the top?

Cheesy  Cheesy

Freely competing individuals, eh?


Or is the competition rigged, just to make sure there is no 'fredomideology' or any individuality tainting the predetermined consensus?
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Reply #271 - Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:10am
 
Many acts of malevolence and spite typical of totalitarian regimes that have not been reported well, were the actions of the dabai (the big whites) after people were mandatorily removed on the spot from their homes.

The dabai moved into the, now vacant, home and 'sanitised' it by spraying copious amounts of liquid disinfectant throughout the place that destroyed all electrical equipment, furniture, art and other possessions.

If that was not malevolent enough, the dabai often trashed the apartments and jettisoned belongings onto the street, leaving the home stripped bare.

And, one final insult - all pets were killed on the spot and their carcases were thrown into the street to be collected by other dabai and burned.

Xi's first sanctioned acts that emulates the excesses of Mao's cultural revolution.

Expect more to come.

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Reply #272 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 11:45am
 
Poor Meister is confused: he says the PLA can't even fight Vietnam, and yet the Pentagon is spending $750 billion a year to contain the "China threat", while Biden is chucking all "free trade" policies overboard at huge expense to the global economy, to contain the "China  threat". 

The biggest  threat to the world is the widely-shared "freedom values" delusions in Meister's own head, delusions which result in endless war and systemic entrenched poverty... aka "the poor are always with us".

The UNUDHR asserts the right of individuals to participate in the economy at above-poverty level, and the right to live in security. 

The false doctrine of national sovereignty makes it impossible, as "freedom values" ideologues seek their own individual (and national) advantage, over and above collective international well-being.

That false doctrine is why the veto was forced onto the UNSC, thus crippling the UNSC from its inception. 

The CCP is in a bind - it wants to create common prosperity, yet it needs national sovereignty to do it, to counter global poverty-entrenching neoliberal free markets. 

Meister's  delusional "freedom values" ideology means even half the population of the richest nation on the planet are living paycheck to paycheck, the very definition of chronic, life-shortening, financial stress.

And so the current global "liberal"/"freedom values" regime under the US global hegemony regime with US acting as 'global policeman' is characterised by endless bloodshed in endless wars, with nations in an insane competition for resources and naked imposition of their own obsolete cultural norms (eg Iranian clothing police), when there is no lack of productive capacity in the modern economy. 



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Reply #273 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 12:10pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 11:45am:
The CCP is in a bind - it wants to create common prosperity, yet it needs national sovereignty to do it, to counter global poverty-entrenching neoliberal free markets. 

I can see now the 'curse of knowledge' paradox manifesting here.

Having known and spoken to actual victims of and advocates for totalitarianism, I assume everyone can see through the veneer of totalitarian propaganda to its true malevolent goal - the accumulation of absolute and unaccountable power.

Then I read posters like yourself and I'm reminded that there are people out there who, having had no experience with totalitarianism (or have never met anyone who has), are unaware that they manifest the same fetishistic obsessions about those who hold absolute power as do actual advocates for totalitarianism.
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Reply #274 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 12:18pm
 
British colony Australia has definitely become a fascist country.
So didn't Snowden escape in China and seek political asylum in Russia.
Assange would have done the same if he could.

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Reply #275 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 12:25pm
 
athos wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 12:18pm:
British colony Australia has definitely become a fascist country.
So didn't Snowden escape in China and seek political asylum in Russia.
Assange would have done the same if he could.

[]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGRirF9oY-s[]

Snowden sought asylum in Hong Kong before the CCP had control of the place.

How many of the soon-to-be unemployed, psychopathic dabai will now have to be repurposed to bash rural Chinese, do you reckon?

And those covid concentration camp cities that have been built over the last 3 years, what do you think they'll be used for?
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Reply #276 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 12:30pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 12:10pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 11:45am:
The CCP is in a bind - it wants to create common prosperity, yet it needs national sovereignty to do it, to counter global poverty-entrenching neoliberal free markets. 

I can see now the 'curse of knowledge' paradox manifesting here.


A good observation; the paradox between individual "freedom", and rule of law to achieve collective security and well-being, understood by Cicero 2 millenia ago. 

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Having known and spoken to actual victims of and advocates for totalitarianism, I assume everyone can see through the veneer of totalitarian propaganda to its true malevolent goal - the accumulation of absolute and unaccountable power.


You assume wrong, because your ideology cripples your ability to analyze the problem at hand - endless war and eternal poverty. 

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Then I read posters like yourself .....(who) manifest the same fetishistic obsessions about those who hold absolute power as do actual advocates for totalitarianism


You prove my point.... including your false assumptions of "fetishistic obsessions".   
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Reply #277 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 12:33pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 12:25pm:
athos wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 12:18pm:
British colony Australia has definitely become a fascist country.
So didn't Snowden escape in China and seek political asylum in Russia.
Assange would have done the same if he could.

[]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGRirF9oY-s[]

Snowden sought asylum in Hong Kong before the CCP had control of the place.

How many of the soon-to-be unemployed, psychopathic dabai will now have to be repurposed to bash rural Chinese, do you reckon?

And those covid concentration camp cities that have been built over the last 3 years, what do you think they'll be used for?

What do you think the CCP is going to do with Jimmy Lai?
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Reply #278 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 12:35pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 12:30pm:
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Then I read posters like yourself .....(who) manifest the same fetishistic obsessions about those who hold absolute power as do actual advocates for totalitarianism


You prove my point....regardless of your false assumptions of "fetishistic obsessions".   

You're exactly like those who had fetishistic obsessions about Nazism and Stalinism, you're just not experienced enough to know that you're showing it.
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Reply #279 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 12:38pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 12:33pm:
What do you think the CCP is going to do with Jimmy Lai?


Hopefully, re-educate him.....if he thinks he knows how to achieve common prosperity in China.....
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Reply #280 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 12:51pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 12:38pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 12:33pm:
What do you think the CCP is going to do with Jimmy Lai?


Hopefully, re-educate him.....if he thinks he knows how to achieve common prosperity in China.....

Don't kid yourself. The CCP is a totalitarian regime. Jimmy Lai is marked for execution.
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Reply #281 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:21pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 12:35pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 12:30pm:
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Then I read posters like yourself .....(who) manifest the same fetishistic obsessions about those who hold absolute power as do actual advocates for totalitarianism


You prove my point....regardless of your false assumptions of "fetishistic obsessions".   

You're exactly like those who had fetishistic obsessions about Nazism and Stalinism, you're just not experienced enough to know that you're showing it.


You mean....I'm not aware of my "fetishist obsession" with Xi?  (Perhaps I was abused by my father, and can't remember it? ......)

Difficult to analyze that, ... whereas I can explain your delusional "freedom values" ideology, since you  are unaware of the effect of your vestigial reptilian brain (with its automatic "freedom" survival instincts)  on your cortex ("thinking") brain.

Cicero exposed your erroneous "freedom values" thinking/ideology 2 millennia ago, without understanding the physiology of the human brain: 


"all must submit to rule of law, for all to be free"
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Reply #282 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:40pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:21pm:
You mean....I'm not aware of my "fetishist obsession" with Xi?  (Perhaps I was abused by my father, and can't remember it? ......)

Difficult to analyze that, ... whereas I can explain your delusional "freedom values" ideology, since you  are unaware of the effect of your vestigial reptilian brain (with its automatic "freedom" survival instincts)  on your cortex ("thinking") brain.

I don't need to analyze it, or theorise on its origin, to read it in your posts.

You're just not aware that you post in the same style as those with fetishistic obsessions for Nazism and Stalinism would have.
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Reply #283 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:52pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:40pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:21pm:
You mean....I'm not aware of my "fetishist obsession" with Xi?  (Perhaps I was abused by my father, and can't remember it? ......)

Difficult to analyze that, ... whereas I can explain your delusional "freedom values" ideology, since you  are unaware of the effect of your vestigial reptilian brain (with its automatic "freedom" survival instincts)  on your cortex ("thinking") brain.

I don't need to analyze it, or theorise on its origin, to read it in your posts.

You're just not aware that you post in the same style as those with fetishistic obsessions for Nazism and Stalinism would have.


ah-ha, I see...... you mean my comments about 'collective well-being', or 'common prosperity' have  similarities with the failed philosophies of national "socialism" or soviet "communism".   

Hmmm....


yes... well...similarities don't prove identity. 
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Reply #284 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:59pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:52pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:40pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 1:21pm:
You mean....I'm not aware of my "fetishist obsession" with Xi?  (Perhaps I was abused by my father, and can't remember it? ......)

Difficult to analyze that, ... whereas I can explain your delusional "freedom values" ideology, since you  are unaware of the effect of your vestigial reptilian brain (with its automatic "freedom" survival instincts)  on your cortex ("thinking") brain.

I don't need to analyze it, or theorise on its origin, to read it in your posts.

You're just not aware that you post in the same style as those with fetishistic obsessions for Nazism and Stalinism would have.


ah-ha, I see...... you mean my comments about 'collective well-being', or 'common prosperity' have  similarities with the failed philosophies of national "socialism" or soviet "communism".   

Hmmm....


yes... well...similarities don't prove identity. 


WOW!

That's really DEEP, man. Your own?

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