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Reply #30 - Nov 29^th, 2022 at 6:10am

Carl D wrote on Nov 28^th, 2022 at 9:44pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 28^th, 2022 at 9:35pm:

That's a rather narrow take on it. We are seeing the struggle for freedom and democracy unfold right before our eyes, and you think it only matters if it affects exports. Do you think the media and their readers might have an actual human interest in what is going on?

The media are only interested in what gets people to buy "news" papers (i.e. read their ads) and watch the TV "news" (i.e. watch their ads).

As for the media having any human interest in anything you only have to look at how they're (not) reporting on Covid in Australia anymore - apart from trying to convince everyone the pandemic is over when it most definitely isn't. And mostly succeeding, at least from what I personally see and hear on a daily basis.

I highlighted the relevant part for you. Both the media and their customers are human beings. Not some small minded conspiracy. Why is it so hard for you to believe that people might have a genuine interest in the Chinese people's struggle against censorship?

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Re: China- Uprisings Erupting Against CCP Across China
Reply #31 - Nov 29^th, 2022 at 8:56am

freediver wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 6:10am:

Carl D wrote on Nov 28^th, 2022 at 9:44pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 28^th, 2022 at 9:35pm:

That's a rather narrow take on it. We are seeing the struggle for freedom and democracy unfold right before our eyes, and you think it only matters if it affects exports. Do you think the media and their readers might have an actual human interest in what is going on?

The media are only interested in what gets people to buy "news" papers (i.e. read their ads) and watch the TV "news" (i.e. watch their ads).

As for the media having any human interest in anything you only have to look at how they're (not) reporting on Covid in Australia anymore - apart from trying to convince everyone the pandemic is over when it most definitely isn't. And mostly succeeding, at least from what I personally see and hear on a daily basis.

I highlighted the relevant part for you. Both the media and their customers are human beings. Not some small minded conspiracy. Why is it so hard for you to believe that people might have a genuine interest in the Chinese people's struggle against censorship?

Sorry, freediver.

After many years of watching your "interactions" with other members here my final comment in this thread is...

I'm not playing. Thank you in advance for your understanding.

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12983 Gender:	Re: China- Uprisings Erupting Against CCP Across China Reply #33 - Nov 29^th, 2022 at 12:57pm Frank wrote on Nov 28^th, 2022 at 11:15am: Goons promoting common prosperity and consensus. https://mobile.twitter.com/whyyoutouzhele/status/1596815452654960640 Er ...are they goons for promoting common prosperity and consensus?
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Re: China- Uprisings Erupting Against CCP Across China
Reply #34 - Nov 29^th, 2022 at 1:26pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 28^th, 2022 at 9:44pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 28^th, 2022 at 9:35pm:

That's a rather narrow take on it. We are seeing the struggle for freedom and democracy unfold right before our eyes, and you think it only matters if it affects exports. Do you think the media and their readers might have an actual human interest in what is going on?

The media are only interested in what gets people to buy "news" papers (i.e. read their ads) and watch the TV "news" (i.e. watch their ads).

As for the media having any human interest in anything you only have to look at how they're (not) reporting on Covid in Australia anymore - apart from trying to convince everyone the pandemic is over when it most definitely isn't. And mostly succeeding, at least from what I personally see and hear on a daily basis.

The media did not influence anyone I know.
Most people I know, knew this covid hysteria was horsehyte from the get go.
Most people know the media is nothing more than a propaganda machine. The footage at the beginning of covid backs the claim.

What you're seeing now is the sheep that followed the media into the sharps kit are now climbing back out and getting on with life. Basically ignoring their bullshyte.

The media were used in the beginning to create fear in everyone. It worked well, sill is. Roll Eyes

They were paid extremely handsomely to do so. It had a purpose.
But just look at the amount of people today that call the MSM "fake news". It's a pandemic in itself.
The MSM couldn't keep the lie going without sheep wisening up and asking questions....and when those asking questions are silenced, ridiculed, shamed in the name of keeping them silent, it starts to raise eyebrows and garner more attention from the sheep, especially when six months down the track the MSM are asking same questions, or printing the exact claims that got silenced previously.

That's all I wanted to do... Ask questions. But I get called all sorts of names for it, not that I care what your, or anyone's opinion of me is.
Your best bet next time imo, because the next one is coming, is get out and ask real humans, real questions. The way it worked before social media came along.
Turn off that rubbish at 6pm. It will do you no good at all.

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Re: China- Uprisings Erupting Against CCP Across China
Reply #35 - Nov 29^th, 2022 at 1:54pm

freediver wrote on Nov 28^th, 2022 at 9:35pm:

That's a rather narrow take on it. We are seeing the struggle for freedom and democracy unfold right before our eyes, and you think it only matters if it affects exports. Do you think the media and their readers might have an actual human interest in what is going on?

No we are not. We are seeing the desire to stop being locked up by covid.

The government has to make the call on whether to let it rip, resulting in millions of deaths, or to maintain vigilance.

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Reply #36 - Nov 29^th, 2022 at 2:21pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 1:26pm:

Carl D wrote on Nov 28^th, 2022 at 9:44pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 28^th, 2022 at 9:35pm:

That's a rather narrow take on it. We are seeing the struggle for freedom and democracy unfold right before our eyes, and you think it only matters if it affects exports. Do you think the media and their readers might have an actual human interest in what is going on?

The media are only interested in what gets people to buy "news" papers (i.e. read their ads) and watch the TV "news" (i.e. watch their ads).

As for the media having any human interest in anything you only have to look at how they're (not) reporting on Covid in Australia anymore - apart from trying to convince everyone the pandemic is over when it most definitely isn't. And mostly succeeding, at least from what I personally see and hear on a daily basis.

The media did not influence anyone I know.
Most people I know, knew this covid hysteria was horsehyte from the get go.
Most people know the media is nothing more than a propaganda machine. The footage at the beginning of covid backs the claim.

What you're seeing now is the sheep that followed the media into the sharps kit are now climbing back out and getting on with life. Basically ignoring their bullshyte.

The media were used in the beginning to create fear in everyone. It worked well, sill is. Roll Eyes

They were paid extremely handsomely to do so. It had a purpose.
But just look at the amount of people today that call the MSM "fake news". It's a pandemic in itself.
The MSM couldn't keep the lie going without sheep wisening up and asking questions....and when those asking questions are silenced, ridiculed, shamed in the name of keeping them silent, it starts to raise eyebrows and garner more attention from the sheep, especially when six months down the track the MSM are asking same questions, or printing the exact claims that got silenced previously.

That's all I wanted to do... Ask questions. But I get called all sorts of names for it, not that I care what your, or anyone's opinion of me is.
Your best bet next time imo, because the next one is coming, is get out and ask real humans, real questions. The way it worked before social media came along.
Turn off that rubbish at 6pm. It will do you no good at all.

excellent post captain

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Re: China- Uprisings Erupting Against CCP Across China
Reply #37 - Nov 29^th, 2022 at 2:24pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 1:54pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 28^th, 2022 at 9:35pm:

That's a rather narrow take on it. We are seeing the struggle for freedom and democracy unfold right before our eyes, and you think it only matters if it affects exports. Do you think the media and their readers might have an actual human interest in what is going on?

No we are not. We are seeing the desire to stop being locked up by covid.

The government has to make the call on whether to let it rip, resulting in millions of deaths, or to maintain vigilance.

The fact is the CCP will not allow western vaccines into the country and has lied to the people about the world's covid status - something the Chinese people discovered via the world cup being televised.

That is what is driving the current protests - CCP lies and the needless suffering it is inflicting on the Chinese people.

Most of the covid tests, enforced on people up to 3 times a week, are binned - not even processed, and a quota of health codes are turned red to give the impression that the system is working - that's cha bu duo in action.

One thing's for sure - the Jiang faction will be enjoying seeing that Xi and his faction are being blamed for the mess.

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Re: China- Uprisings Erupting Against CCP Across China
Reply #38 - Nov 29^th, 2022 at 6:05pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 1:54pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 28^th, 2022 at 9:35pm:

That's a rather narrow take on it. We are seeing the struggle for freedom and democracy unfold right before our eyes, and you think it only matters if it affects exports. Do you think the media and their readers might have an actual human interest in what is going on?

No we are not. We are seeing the desire to stop being locked up by covid.

The government has to make the call on whether to let it rip, resulting in millions of deaths, or to maintain vigilance.

They have ony been locked up in China for a few months, whingers, Dan knew what to do.

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Re: China- Uprisings Erupting Against CCP Across China
Reply #39 - Nov 29^th, 2022 at 7:21pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 8:56am:

freediver wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 6:10am:

Carl D wrote on Nov 28^th, 2022 at 9:44pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 28^th, 2022 at 9:35pm:

That's a rather narrow take on it. We are seeing the struggle for freedom and democracy unfold right before our eyes, and you think it only matters if it affects exports. Do you think the media and their readers might have an actual human interest in what is going on?

The media are only interested in what gets people to buy "news" papers (i.e. read their ads) and watch the TV "news" (i.e. watch their ads).

As for the media having any human interest in anything you only have to look at how they're (not) reporting on Covid in Australia anymore - apart from trying to convince everyone the pandemic is over when it most definitely isn't. And mostly succeeding, at least from what I personally see and hear on a daily basis.

I highlighted the relevant part for you. Both the media and their customers are human beings. Not some small minded conspiracy. Why is it so hard for you to believe that people might have a genuine interest in the Chinese people's struggle against censorship?

Sorry, freediver.

After many years of watching your "interactions" with other members here my final comment in this thread is...

I'm not playing. Thank you in advance for your understanding.

Ah. You saw through my cunning plan of getting you to acknowledge that people who read newspapers are human beings.

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Most people I know, knew this covid hysteria was horsehyte from the get go.

You poor thing, surrounded by morons.

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Re: China- Uprisings Erupting Against CCP Across China
Reply #40 - Nov 29^th, 2022 at 9:02pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 2:24pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 1:54pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 28^th, 2022 at 9:35pm:

That's a rather narrow take on it. We are seeing the struggle for freedom and democracy unfold right before our eyes, and you think it only matters if it affects exports. Do you think the media and their readers might have an actual human interest in what is going on?

No we are not. We are seeing the desire to stop being locked up by covid.

The government has to make the call on whether to let it rip, resulting in millions of deaths, or to maintain vigilance.

The fact is the CCP will not allow western vaccines into the country and has lied to the people about the world's covid status - something the Chinese people discovered via the world cup being televised.

That is what is driving the current protests - CCP lies and the needless suffering it is inflicting on the Chinese people.

Most of the covid tests, enforced on people up to 3 times a week, are binned - not even processed, and a quota of health codes are turned red to give the impression that the system is working - that's cha bu duo in action.

One thing's for sure - the Jiang faction will be enjoying seeing that Xi and his faction are being blamed for the mess.

hang on there

chinas vaccine didnt work
they have an aged population

in what way is their lockdown any different to dans?

he used exactly the same justification , did he not Sad

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Reply #41 - Nov 29^th, 2022 at 9:23pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 9:02pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 2:24pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 1:54pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 28^th, 2022 at 9:35pm:

That's a rather narrow take on it. We are seeing the struggle for freedom and democracy unfold right before our eyes, and you think it only matters if it affects exports. Do you think the media and their readers might have an actual human interest in what is going on?

No we are not. We are seeing the desire to stop being locked up by covid.

The government has to make the call on whether to let it rip, resulting in millions of deaths, or to maintain vigilance.

The fact is the CCP will not allow western vaccines into the country and has lied to the people about the world's covid status - something the Chinese people discovered via the world cup being televised.

That is what is driving the current protests - CCP lies and the needless suffering it is inflicting on the Chinese people.

Most of the covid tests, enforced on people up to 3 times a week, are binned - not even processed, and a quota of health codes are turned red to give the impression that the system is working - that's cha bu duo in action.

One thing's for sure - the Jiang faction will be enjoying seeing that Xi and his faction are being blamed for the mess.

hang on there

chinas vaccine didnt work
they have an aged population

in what way is their lockdown any different to dans?

he used exactly the same justification , did he not Sad

The CCP has imposed lockdowns for 3 years.

Chinese people are required to mass test for covid at least 3 times a week.

The CCP has imposed quotas on families requiring at least 1 family member to be quaranteened (2 for a family of 5 or more), regardless of whether they are covid positive or not.

The CCP has refused to allow effective western vaccines into the country, choosing instead to use their failed locally-made potato-water vaccines.

The CCP arbitrarily set people's health code to red en masse - meaning the people can do nothing - not catch a bus, a train, buy food, or move anywhere outside their apartment sometimes for weeks on end.

Young children are being separated from their families because they have tested positive at school (at least that's what their families have been told).

The CCP's dabai (big whites) have been welding people into their homes and apartment blocks. Even fire exists have been welded shut.

Many Chinese people have starved to death in their apartments due to the lockdowns.

Many Chinese people have been disappeared for breaching lockdown.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 48719 Gender:	Re: China- Uprisings Erupting Against CCP Across China Reply #42 - Nov 29^th, 2022 at 9:54pm Now we all know I've posted the odd Topic about China going 'Super Nova' (collapsing from within) with an almighty BIG BANG! Just another day in the life of 'moi'.
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Reply #43 - Nov 29^th, 2022 at 10:26pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 9:54pm:

[[]Now we all know I've posted the odd Topic about China going 'Super Nova' (collapsing from within) with an almighty BIG BANG! []

Just another day in the life of 'moi'. Wink

Don't be so sure.

The CCP has the same psychopathic will to survive as it did under Mao.

A blood-lust fueled crackdown is almost certain if the protests come anywhere near the size of the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989.

The PLA senior command has previously stated that it would not intervene on behalf of the people in the event of political unrest (so much for the people's army), although it will depend on which faction turns out to have the loyalty of the PLA.

Given the degree of corruption within the CCP (which runs from the very top to the very bottom), every CCP official will be invested in a massive crackdown for fear of revenge killings against them for their corruption and brutality toward ordinary Chinese people.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 48719 Gender:	Re: China- Uprisings Erupting Against CCP Across China Reply #44 - Nov 29^th, 2022 at 10:29pm I predicted 'long ago' (79% success rate ) that China would collapse within. The more it swells up like a Supernova, the more it will collapse from within - until BANG! It explodes (off-gassing it's politics and military out into the void), to become a...
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