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Reply #45 - Nov 29^th, 2022 at 10:39pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 10:29pm:

I predicted 'long ago' (79% success rate Wink

) that China would collapse within. The more it swells up like a Supernova, the more it will collapse from within - until BANG!
It explodes (off-gassing it's politics and military out into the void), to become a... Lips Sealed

So, you missed the reports on the Hong Kong crackdown, then.

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Reply #46 - Nov 29^th, 2022 at 10:40pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 10:39pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 10:29pm:

I predicted 'long ago' (79% success rate Wink

) that China would collapse within. The more it swells up like a Supernova, the more it will collapse from within - until BANG!
It explodes (off-gassing it's politics and military out into the void), to become a... Lips Sealed

So, you missed the reports on the Hong Kong crackdown, then.

You mean all the drug-addicts going nuts because the British Drug Dealers left?

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Reply #47 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 4:57am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 9:23pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 9:02pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 2:24pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 1:54pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 28^th, 2022 at 9:35pm:

That's a rather narrow take on it. We are seeing the struggle for freedom and democracy unfold right before our eyes, and you think it only matters if it affects exports. Do you think the media and their readers might have an actual human interest in what is going on?

No we are not. We are seeing the desire to stop being locked up by covid.

The government has to make the call on whether to let it rip, resulting in millions of deaths, or to maintain vigilance.

The fact is the CCP will not allow western vaccines into the country and has lied to the people about the world's covid status - something the Chinese people discovered via the world cup being televised.

That is what is driving the current protests - CCP lies and the needless suffering it is inflicting on the Chinese people.

Most of the covid tests, enforced on people up to 3 times a week, are binned - not even processed, and a quota of health codes are turned red to give the impression that the system is working - that's cha bu duo in action.

One thing's for sure - the Jiang faction will be enjoying seeing that Xi and his faction are being blamed for the mess.

hang on there

chinas vaccine didnt work
they have an aged population

in what way is their lockdown any different to dans?

he used exactly the same justification , did he not Sad

The CCP has imposed lockdowns for 3 years.

Chinese people are required to mass test for covid at least 3 times a week.

The CCP has imposed quotas on families requiring at least 1 family member to be quaranteened (2 for a family of 5 or more), regardless of whether they are covid positive or not.

The CCP has refused to allow effective western vaccines into the country, choosing instead to use their failed locally-made potato-water vaccines.

The CCP arbitrarily set people's health code to red en masse - meaning the people can do nothing - not catch a bus, a train, buy food, or move anywhere outside their apartment sometimes for weeks on end.

Young children are being separated from their families because they have tested positive at school (at least that's what their families have been told).

The CCP's dabai (big whites) have been welding people into their homes and apartment blocks. Even fire exists have been welded shut.

Many Chinese people have starved to death in their apartments due to the lockdowns.

Many Chinese people have been disappeared for breaching lockdown.

think how much better for the citizens life would be if they had the right to bear arms

the second amednment is so important

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Reply #48 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 6:46am

Jasin wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 10:40pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 10:39pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 10:29pm:

I predicted 'long ago' (79% success rate Wink

) that China would collapse within. The more it swells up like a Supernova, the more it will collapse from within - until BANG!
It explodes (off-gassing it's politics and military out into the void), to become a... Lips Sealed

So, you missed the reports on the Hong Kong crackdown, then.

You mean all the drug-addicts going nuts because the British Drug Dealers left?

No, the crackdown against Hong Kongers protesting against direct rule from Beijing.

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Reply #49 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 7:07am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 4:57am:

think how much better for the citizens life would be if they had the right to bear arms

In China that would lead to neo-feudalism, with warlords controlling vast swathes of regions and in a state of perpetual war against their rival neighbour warlords.

The CCP's control over China and the Chinese people is not a deviation from ancient Chinese imperialism, it's an extension of it.

Under the false pretext of egalitarianism, the neo-imperial families of China as established by Mao, have managed to complete what the former imperial families and pretender imperial families had attempted to do for centuries - impose absolute imperial will throughout northern, southern, eastern and south-eastern Asia.

The CCP's obsession with Taiwan and the lands and seas of southeast Asia is also an extension of an ancient imperial obsession thousands of years old.

As for the north, parts of eastern Russia are known in China as the lost territories and the Chinese neo-imperial families have not forgotten them.

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12583 Gender:	Re: China- Uprisings Erupting Against CCP Across China Reply #50 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 7:42am Xi and his faction have responded. The severe crackdown on protesting and protesters has begun. It's a certainty that every protester who can be identified will be disappeared or have their lives destroyed.
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Reply #51 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 9:32am

https://au.news.yahoo.com/china-issues-grim-threat-this-is-going-to-be-very-ugly...

"AFP
Wed, 30 November 2022 at 8:27 am·4-min read

China's top security body called for a "crackdown" against "hostile forces" on Tuesday, after a weekend of protests in major cities opposing Covid lockdowns and demanding greater political freedoms.

The stark warning came after security services were out in force across China following demonstrations not seen in decades, as anger over unrelenting lockdowns fuelled deep-rooted frustration with the political system.

China is the world's last major economy still wedded to a zero-Covid policy, which compels local governments to impose snap lockdowns and quarantine orders, and limit freedom of movement in response to minor outbreaks.

Anger over the lockdowns has widened to calls for political change, with protesters holding up blank sheets of paper to symbolise the pervasive censorship to which the world's most populous country is subjected.

On Tuesday, the ruling Communist Party's Central Political and Legal Affairs Commission called for a "crackdown" on what it described as "hostile forces" — a veiled warning to the protesters.

The body — which oversees all domestic law enforcement in China — also agreed at its meeting that it was time to "crack down on illegal criminal acts that disrupt social order" as well as "safeguard overall social stability."

Anger over the lockdowns has widened to calls for political change, with protesters holding up blank sheets of paper to symbolise the pervasive censorship to which the world's most populous country is subjected.

On Tuesday, the ruling Communist Party's Central Political and Legal Affairs Commission called for a "crackdown" on what it described as "hostile forces" — a veiled warning to the protesters.

The body — which oversees all domestic law enforcement in China — also agreed at its meeting that it was time to "crack down on illegal criminal acts that disrupt social order" as well as "safeguard overall social stability."

It's the largest display of social disobedience since the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests and subsequent massacre at the hands of the Chinese government. Reacting to the warning, geopolitical analyst and author Peter Zeihan openly worried about the prospect of a violent crackdown in China's streets if protests persist.

"This is going to be very, very ugly," he tweeted."

The Dragon is showing its cracks again.... daily I get communiques from beautiful Chinese doctors, lawyers and professors wanting to get out ... and that's just the women in this gender confused time in the West ... one offered me $70m ...... no wonder the politicos and public servants all retire rich... and lady from Kazakhstan has bolted to Portugal.... safe ...

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Reply #52 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 10:31am

freediver wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 6:10am:

Carl D wrote on Nov 28^th, 2022 at 9:44pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 28^th, 2022 at 9:35pm:

That's a rather narrow take on it. We are seeing the struggle for freedom and democracy unfold right before our eyes, and you think it only matters if it affects exports. Do you think the media and their readers might have an actual human interest in what is going on?

The media are only interested in what gets people to buy "news" papers (i.e. read their ads) and watch the TV "news" (i.e. watch their ads).

As for the media having any human interest in anything you only have to look at how they're (not) reporting on Covid in Australia anymore - apart from trying to convince everyone the pandemic is over when it most definitely isn't. And mostly succeeding, at least from what I personally see and hear on a daily basis.

I highlighted the relevant part for you. Both the media and their customers are human beings. Not some small minded conspiracy. Why is it so hard for you to believe that people might have a genuine interest in the Chinese people's struggle against censorship?

It seems highly symptomatic when China's confirmed Anglo enemies are suddenly so concerned about the welfare of the Chinese people.
Or maybe they were inspired by MI6 (ASIO) and their two party cartel directives?
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Do we need to be always politically correct.
In the world of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

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Reply #53 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 10:43am

athos wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 10:31am:

freediver wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 6:10am:

Carl D wrote on Nov 28^th, 2022 at 9:44pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 28^th, 2022 at 9:35pm:

That's a rather narrow take on it. We are seeing the struggle for freedom and democracy unfold right before our eyes, and you think it only matters if it affects exports. Do you think the media and their readers might have an actual human interest in what is going on?

The media are only interested in what gets people to buy "news" papers (i.e. read their ads) and watch the TV "news" (i.e. watch their ads).

As for the media having any human interest in anything you only have to look at how they're (not) reporting on Covid in Australia anymore - apart from trying to convince everyone the pandemic is over when it most definitely isn't. And mostly succeeding, at least from what I personally see and hear on a daily basis.

I highlighted the relevant part for you. Both the media and their customers are human beings. Not some small minded conspiracy. Why is it so hard for you to believe that people might have a genuine interest in the Chinese people's struggle against censorship?

It seems highly symptomatic when China's confirmed Anglo enemies are suddenly so concerned about the welfare of the Chinese people.
Or maybe they were inspired by MI6 (ASIO) and their two party cartel directives?
Grin

Well Athos, maybe the problem is that there really isn't the very 'Western' Anglo (Boris Johnson) or his little red Saxon (D.Trump) mate and Protestant (Scott Morrison) around anymore.
Instead, its back to the Mafia-Media's Fake Western Politics with the Blue 'North' Democrat Yankees (for want of slaying their Grey 'South' Confederate brother long ago like Smeagol killing his for the 'precioussss').

As for China. Well of all the nations on the planet who should be very strict on Covid... they are certainly being responsible about it on that level.

As we saw around the world during the first major Lockdowns - there were many 'political/military/religious' people who felt they were 'entitled' to be above and beyond any 'Medical' action.

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Reply #54 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 11:12am

athos wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 10:31am:

It seems highly symptomatic when China's confirmed Anglo enemies are suddenly so concerned about the welfare of the Chinese people.
Or maybe they were inspired by MI6 (ASIO) and their two party cartel directives?

Ha ha! The ASIO thing! I've been told the wumao have a 'thing' about ASIO, now I read it here!

No one despised / despises the Chinese people more than their old emperors and the CCP.

Which faction do you support, Xi or Jiang?

As you're a Chinese natonalist, tell the posters here the meaning of cha bu duo and the corrosive effect it has always had on Chinese society.

I'll include a link to a Chinese rapper who sings about it - I like the line which translates to: 'cha bu duo, a deer is now a horse'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrqKvu-rqIc

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Reply #55 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 2:34pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 11:12am:

athos wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 10:31am:

It seems highly symptomatic when China's confirmed Anglo enemies are suddenly so concerned about the welfare of the Chinese people.
Or maybe they were inspired by MI6 (ASIO) and their two party cartel directives?

Ha ha! The ASIO thing! I've been told the wumao have a 'thing' about ASIO, now I read it here!

Not only wumao, but also me, because some great Australians like Whitlam and Don Dunstan found themselves on the list of "traitors" according to the warmongering "security" spooks aka as ASIO.

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No one despised / despises the Chinese people more than their old emperors and the CCP.

Insane comment. The goal of the CCP is a 'prosperous socialist society in all respects', by the centenary of the revolution.

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Which faction do you support, Xi or Jiang?

The goal will determine the policy which proves to be successful. Leave it to Chinese pragmatism.

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As you're a Chinese natonalist, tell the posters here the meaning of cha bu duo and the corrosive effect it has always had on Chinese society.

I'll pass on that, while China is building its space station and selling more EVs into the EU than any other foreign car maker...hardly the result of "that's good enough"...

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I'll include a link to a Chinese rapper who sings about it - I like the line which translates to: 'cha bu duo, a deer is now a horse'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrqKvu-rqIc

I'm more interested in the 'closing the gap' debate in Oz...today the Nats are saying a systems problem is responsible for the gap...amazing for a RW party to comprehend that fact.

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Reply #57 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 3:04pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

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No one despised / despises the Chinese people more than their old emperors and the CCP.

Insane comment. The goal of the CCP is a 'prosperous socialist society in all respects', by the centenary of the revolution.

Yes, of course, just ask them

The goal of the CCP is to subjugate the Chinese people and keep the new imperial families, as established by Mao, in power.

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Reply #58 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 3:17pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

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As you're a Chinese natonalist, tell the posters here the meaning of cha bu duo and the corrosive effect it has always had on Chinese society.

I'll pass on that, while China is building its space station and selling more EVs into the EU than any other foreign car maker...hardly the result of "that's good enough"...

The only products manufactured to, with maintained, exacting standards are those overseen by westerners. All others are poor quality.

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