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Reply #30 - Dec 7th, 2022 at 6:35am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 6th, 2022 at 6:35pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2022 at 6:32pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 6th, 2022 at 5:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6th, 2022 at 4:22pm:
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Whites rape and murder people, sometimes as badly as the Indigenous people, Matty.  Get back to us with a non-Racist argument, can you?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



But there is no 'white' community where it is as entrenched, horrendous and ongoing as it is in Aboriginal 'communities', is there, Bbwian?

There is no horrendous, disproportionate violence and rape in pockets of white settlements, is there, Bbbwian??

Otherwise it would unremarkable what IS going on in Aboriginal 'communities', wouldn't it, Bbwian??



Here's a non-racist question, Bbwian, and I put in Irish so you fully get it: why are you such a  fekkin' ijit?


How out of touch are you? Of course there is you old fool.


Where is it??????????



Just the one you're after?
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Re: Among cannibals - Lumholtz, Carl
Reply #31 - Dec 7th, 2022 at 7:04am
 
The Aborigines rape all their children - boys and girls - 100%

Its called Initiation

They are gang raped for 3 months by the old men

Many die in "Lore Time"

Put that in the Constitution
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Re: Among cannibals - Lumholtz, Carl
Reply #32 - Dec 7th, 2022 at 8:42am
 
They must be Spartans and Pretorian Guards.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Re: Among cannibals - Lumholtz, Carl
Reply #33 - Dec 7th, 2022 at 12:18pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 7th, 2022 at 6:35am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 6th, 2022 at 6:35pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 6th, 2022 at 6:32pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 6th, 2022 at 5:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 6th, 2022 at 4:22pm:
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Whites rape and murder people, sometimes as badly as the Indigenous people, Matty.  Get back to us with a non-Racist argument, can you?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



But there is no 'white' community where it is as entrenched, horrendous and ongoing as it is in Aboriginal 'communities', is there, Bbwian?

There is no horrendous, disproportionate violence and rape in pockets of white settlements, is there, Bbbwian??

Otherwise it would unremarkable what IS going on in Aboriginal 'communities', wouldn't it, Bbwian??



Here's a non-racist question, Bbwian, and I put in Irish so you fully get it: why are you such a  fekkin' ijit?


How out of touch are you? Of course there is you old fool.


Where is it??????????



Just the one you're after?


Let's try again in simple words:-

Where is this 'white' community where it is as entrenched, horrendous and ongoing as it is in Aboriginal 'communities'??

Let's get this show on the road.....
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Re: Among cannibals - Lumholtz, Carl
Reply #34 - Dec 9th, 2022 at 8:27am
 
they want "The Voice" so they can do the the rest of Australia what they do on their "Communities".

In other words lawlessness, rape, murder and crime.
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Re: Among cannibals - Lumholtz, Carl
Reply #35 - Dec 9th, 2022 at 1:11pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 5th, 2022 at 11:32am:
Boris wrote on Dec 5th, 2022 at 11:30am:
he spoke of "dead infants would routinely go ‘into the pot’."

He worked with them for 30 years - he saw it

I knew about it as I worked with them

Do you accept it happened?

It happened.

When did it stop?

As far as I know it still goes on in remote communities


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Where?  When? 
He never documented any Cannibalism
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A lot of their Dreamtime stories do include tales like this.

But so does the bible.  There are also accounts of European and English cannibalism from our ancestors within the same sort of timeframes.

But somehow that's not indicative of the white race who were descendants of these people?

But it does apply to all indigenous Australians, today?

The fu
ck!?


What's the difference?

Just another topic Boris doesn't actually care about unless he can use it to dehumanise indigenous Australians, and then in the same breath as categorising them as sub human, he feigns concern about dividing the citizens of Australia with "the voice"?

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Re: Among cannibals - Lumholtz, Carl
Reply #36 - Dec 9th, 2022 at 1:16pm
 
Boris wrote on Dec 9th, 2022 at 8:27am:
they want "The Voice" so they can do the the rest of Australia what they do on their "Communities".

In other words lawlessness, rape, murder and crime.


Besides that bow you're trying to string being light-years across, can you explain how you expect the voice, the recognition, and the work towards reconciliation would actually lead to that?

It's even worse than an argument against same-sex marriage being "well next people will want to marry dogs or children!"...

Like, I'm almost floored at the notion that there is a stupider argument than even that, that someone is legitimately trying to make...

How stupid/ignorant/racist are you Boris... Get help.
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Reply #37 - Dec 9th, 2022 at 6:13pm
 
Welcome back Sad Kangaroo. You have been missed by quite a few here.
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Re: Among cannibals - Lumholtz, Carl
Reply #38 - Dec 10th, 2022 at 7:02am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 9th, 2022 at 1:16pm:
Boris wrote on Dec 9th, 2022 at 8:27am:
they want "The Voice" so they can do the the rest of Australia what they do on their "Communities".

In other words lawlessness, rape, murder and crime.


Besides that bow you're trying to string being light-years across, can you explain how you expect the voice, the recognition, and the work towards reconciliation would actually lead to that?

It's even worse than an argument against same-sex marriage being "well next people will want to marry dogs or children!"...

Like, I'm almost floored at the notion that there is a stupider argument than even that, that someone is legitimately trying to make...

How stupid/ignorant/racist are you Boris... Get help.


The Lawlessness in the NT on their communities has to be seen to be believed - I have seen it as a first responder.

You would not have the first clue about the reality.

How is giving them unequal power over the rest of us going to do anything other than destroy Australia?


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Re: Among cannibals - Lumholtz, Carl
Reply #39 - Dec 10th, 2022 at 7:36am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 9th, 2022 at 1:11pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 5th, 2022 at 11:32am:
Boris wrote on Dec 5th, 2022 at 11:30am:
he spoke of "dead infants would routinely go ‘into the pot’."

He worked with them for 30 years - he saw it

I knew about it as I worked with them

Do you accept it happened?

It happened.

When did it stop?

As far as I know it still goes on in remote communities


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5536/WEbaRN.png

Where?  When? 
He never documented any Cannibalism
, Matty. Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


A lot of their Dreamtime stories do include tales like this.

But so does the bible.  There are also accounts of European and English cannibalism from our ancestors within the same sort of timeframes.

But somehow that's not indicative of the white race who were descendants of these people?

But it does apply to all indigenous Australians, today?

The fu
ck!?


What's the difference?

Just another topic Boris doesn't actually care about unless he can use it to dehumanise indigenous Australians, and then in the same breath as categorising them as sub human, he feigns concern about dividing the citizens of Australia with "the voice"?

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Plenty of people saw it and documented it

From Ooldea, Bates wrote:

“Just as I was buttoning the men into their first trousers, a thunder came from the Plain. All rose in terror to watch, wild-eyed, the monster of Nullarbor, the ganba (snake) coming to devour them [i.e. the train]. I needed all my tact and wisdom to prevent their flight. Two of the women were heavily pregnant. One of these, in spite of the abundant food bestowed on her, later gave birth to a girl baby in a hidden spot in the bush, and killed and ate the little creature. The other woman reared her child for a year or so, and then, giving birth to a half-caste at some siding, took both along the line and disposed of them either by neglect or design. One of the men … contracted venereal disease, and returned to Ooldea only to die…We buried him near my tent, with Inyiga, a woman who, after killing her diseased half-cast child, succumbed to pneumonia.”


She went to great lengths to collect evidence of cannibal episodes. One set of bones she sent to Adelaide for analysis proved to be mere cat bones, but others were human. To be blunt, there are plenty of accounts by respected anthropologists about Aboriginal cannibalism, e.g. Elkin, Roth, and the two Berndts . Even Manning Clark attested to the practice.[iv] A colleague of mine, the late Dr C.G. von Brandenstein, who learnt at least four Pilbara languages, said once that in hard times, dead infants would routinely go ‘into the pot’.

As for infanticide, this has been estimated at up to 30% of babies before white contact, and close to 20% of babies even in 1966-67 in Pitjantjatjara country, the source country of many of the Aborigines on ‘the line’.
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Re: Among cannibals - Lumholtz, Carl
Reply #40 - Dec 10th, 2022 at 7:40am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 9th, 2022 at 1:16pm:
Boris wrote on Dec 9th, 2022 at 8:27am:
they want "The Voice" so they can do the the rest of Australia what they do on their "Communities".

In other words lawlessness, rape, murder and crime.


Besides that bow you're trying to string being light-years across, can you explain how you expect the voice, the recognition, and the work towards reconciliation would actually lead to that?

It's even worse than an argument against same-sex marriage being "well next people will want to marry dogs or children!"...

Like, I'm almost floored at the notion that there is a stupider argument than even that, that someone is legitimately trying to make...

How stupid/ignorant/racist are you Boris... Get help.



You need help for your delusions

Abos are lawless, violent and untamed.

Same sex marriage is wrong.

Light years? You are removed from reality.

Reconciliation? What a joke they are lawless savages and always will be.

Rape crime and murder is all they do.

I lived there - you sip Latte in the Inner City and would not know
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Reply #41 - Dec 10th, 2022 at 1:16pm
 
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Now we see the inherent Racism in  Matty's posts.  All he rabbits on about is how sub-human his fellow Australians are.  How they once ate one another.  How they are only capable of crime and violence.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #42 - Dec 10th, 2022 at 6:12pm
 
Everyone sing along

It's a one eyed, one winged flying Purple People eater.
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Reply #43 - Dec 10th, 2022 at 11:08pm
 
........ Sunday night special coming soon on GrapplerVid........ Brad Firepitt in the now classic "Seven Years Without Being Et" .................... then from NITVid the premiere movie special - "I Was A Teenage Cannibal" ....... also known as "I Ate Three Wives!/First Wives Clubbed." ................... a blockbusting sequel to "We Of The Nulla-Nulla" ..........
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Reply #44 - Dec 11th, 2022 at 7:47am
 
Boris wrote on Dec 10th, 2022 at 7:02am:
How is giving them unequal power over the rest of us going to do anything other than destroy Australia?


And there it is.

The true ravings of a madman.

This is the deep-rooted and unfounded fear that is governing your position.

A position you try to justify with 200+ year old evidence, "oh trust me I've heard stories" and evidence devoid claims trying to paint all indigenous Australians as child rapists so you can accuse anyone who doesn't agree with you, or even has the audacity to ask for evidence, as supporting the rape of children.

This thread, as horrid as it is, is supposed to be your exposé on the rampant cannibalism within their communities, that it's normal and it makes them sub human and therefore unworthy of the voice, while at the same time accusing "the voice" of trying to divide the community over the subject.

Again, I don't know why it has to be repeated so much, but they are already part of our citizenry and you're the one drawing a hard line between them and everyone else, but you think when that's done via "the voice" that it's the greatest injustice in the history of the world, akin to Hitler and Nazism?

But YOU'RE DOING IT RIGHT NOW!?

Is it good or bad?!

While at the same time, you've already abandoned that claim of cannibalism in this discussion and have moved on to child rape?

Are your supposed justifications so weak and pathetic that you abandon them so quickly that you have to fall back to the "you support child rape" accusations?

Do you even know what the voice means?

I mean, clearly you don't if you think it means,

Boris wrote on Dec 10th, 2022 at 7:02am:
giving them unequal power over the rest of us


I don't know who is feeding you this information, but you need to stop listening to them. 

I know it might be hard, especially because they're feeding you information that you want to hear, that reinforces your supremacy over all indigenous Australians but that's lead you to believe, to be misled and duped into the belief that any moves for equality and reconciliation mean something will be taken from you.

If you care so deeply about the children in these communities, wouldn't you want to help them by accepting and working with those going down the voice pathway? 

Give them better representation, more awareness of their issues, and greater assistance in resolving them?

Or are you simply exploiting the idea of child rape to push your lies and bullshit claims?
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