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Re: Donald Trump calls for end of US Constitution
Reply #90 - Dec 7^th, 2022 at 3:06pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 1:11pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 7:37am:

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 12:21am:

Well, it's officially on the record.

Trump's actual words; "the termination of all rules... even those found in the Constitution".

End of story. QED.

Which is why I opined earlier that the failed former president is now
showing obvious symptoms of early onset dementia—often termed
"mild cognitive impairment"—which may include problems with memory,
language or judgment. Trump shows signs of all three.

In your shifty smug rush to end the story you forgot to say what action by whom or what would allow the termination of rules. Let us remind you:

He said it was time to "throw out" the 2020 presidential election results or to hold a "new election".

"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution," Mr Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social.

Can the shifty smug Sage of Gippsland identify verbs and subjects in sentences? No, evidently he can't.

Here's the answer (so you don't need to call a friend and still be puzzled for days): The subject, the doer is 'fraud' and the verb is 'allows'.
So the REAL meaning of what he said is: massive fraud allows for the termination of all rules. Massive electoral fraud by the Dems.

Now you can debate the massive fraud claim but only shifty smug idiots would try to make out that Trump was calling for the abolishing of the Constitution.

I see. So Dear Leader said it, but that's okay. He's only promising to terminate the constitution to get back the Dems.

Nice use of grammatology there, dear boy. Do you know what you are, old chap?

You're a post-structuralist. Meaning is dead. In the end, Dear Leader didn't really say anything at all, no?

Just so.

Why do you insist on lying, Mustaphaken?

There is nothing 'post-structuralist about understand the various parts of speech and how they make meaning.

Massive fraud (subject) allows (verb, transitive) the termination of rules (object).

The cat is on the mat. The dog ate your homework. You - cannot stop - your lies. Gweggy turd - is lying - about everything. Duckwit - quacks - silly duckwittery.

See? No 'Trump - promised - to abolish the constitution' anywhere.

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Re: Donald Trump calls for end of US Constitution
Reply #91 - Dec 7^th, 2022 at 3:13pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 2:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 1:14pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 7:37am:

Now you can debate the massive fraud claim ...

No. There's no debate, because there was no fraud.

This has been proven in courts all over the country.

There's nothing to debate.

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 7:37am:

... but only shifty smug idiots would try to make out that Trump was calling for the abolishing of the Constitution.

That's exactly what he was doing.

"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution," Mr Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social.

Yes, but meaning is slippery, Greggery. Read your Derrida. Who can truly say what they mean? Can you? Can I? Can anybody?

I think not. Look, there are countless variables. When Dear Leader said the constitution did he mean the American constitution? We need to take that into account. When he said all rules and articles, was he referring to laws, or perhaps ethical codes of a higher nature - perhaps even articles that have not yet been written down?

We need to factor in all the variables here, Greggery. Who would do the terminating? And as the old boy correctly pointed out, where are the verbs? Of whom is the subject? Subject - verb - object, dear, it's just good grammar.

I'm sorry, Greggery, we may never really know what Mr Trump meant to say, but I think we can safely say this:

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When Mexico sends it's people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you, they're not sending you. They're sending people that have a lot of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

Does that help to clarify things a bit?

Yes likely why they were knocked out in the group stage of the world cup. The are first to qualify for 2026 though.

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Re: Donald Trump calls for end of US Constitution
Reply #92 - Dec 7^th, 2022 at 3:14pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 2:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 1:14pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 7:37am:

Now you can debate the massive fraud claim ...

No. There's no debate, because there was no fraud.

This has been proven in courts all over the country.

There's nothing to debate.

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 7:37am:

... but only shifty smug idiots would try to make out that Trump was calling for the abolishing of the Constitution.

That's exactly what he was doing.

"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution," Mr Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social.

Yes, but meaning is slippery, Greggery. Read your Derrida. Who can truly say what they mean? Can you? Can I? Can anybody?

I think not. Look, there are countless variables. When Dear Leader said the constitution did he mean the American constitution? We need to take that into account. When he said all rules and articles, was he referring to laws, or perhaps ethical codes of a higher nature - perhaps even articles that have not yet been written down?

We need to factor in all the variables here, Greggery. Who would do the terminating? And as the old boy correctly pointed out, where are the verbs? Of whom is the subject? Subject - verb - object, dear, it's just good grammar.

I'm sorry, Greggery, we may never really know what Mr Trump meant to say, but I think we can safely say this:

Quote:

When Mexico sends it's people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you, they're not sending you. They're sending people that have a lot of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

Does that help to clarify things a bit?

Seems pretty clear, doesn't it? Undecided

"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution," Mr Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social.

Maybe Frank has dyslexia.

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Re: Donald Trump calls for end of US Constitution
Reply #94 - Dec 7^th, 2022 at 3:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 3:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 2:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 1:14pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 7:37am:

Now you can debate the massive fraud claim ...

No. There's no debate, because there was no fraud.

This has been proven in courts all over the country.

There's nothing to debate.

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 7:37am:

... but only shifty smug idiots would try to make out that Trump was calling for the abolishing of the Constitution.

That's exactly what he was doing.

"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution," Mr Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social.

Yes, but meaning is slippery, Greggery. Read your Derrida. Who can truly say what they mean? Can you? Can I? Can anybody?

I think not. Look, there are countless variables. When Dear Leader said the constitution did he mean the American constitution? We need to take that into account. When he said all rules and articles, was he referring to laws, or perhaps ethical codes of a higher nature - perhaps even articles that have not yet been written down?

We need to factor in all the variables here, Greggery. Who would do the terminating? And as the old boy correctly pointed out, where are the verbs? Of whom is the subject? Subject - verb - object, dear, it's just good grammar.

I'm sorry, Greggery, we may never really know what Mr Trump meant to say, but I think we can safely say this:

Quote:

When Mexico sends it's people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you, they're not sending you. They're sending people that have a lot of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

Does that help to clarify things a bit?

Seems pretty clear, doesn't it? Undecided

"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution," Mr Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social.

Maybe Frank has dyslexia.

Wonder how it will go down when they eventually figure out that it means that the 2nd amendment and freedom of speech are gone?

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Re: Donald Trump calls for end of US Constitution
Reply #95 - Dec 7^th, 2022 at 3:44pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 3:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 3:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 2:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 1:14pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 7:37am:

Now you can debate the massive fraud claim ...

No. There's no debate, because there was no fraud.

This has been proven in courts all over the country.

There's nothing to debate.

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 7:37am:

... but only shifty smug idiots would try to make out that Trump was calling for the abolishing of the Constitution.

That's exactly what he was doing.

"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution," Mr Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social.

Yes, but meaning is slippery, Greggery. Read your Derrida. Who can truly say what they mean? Can you? Can I? Can anybody?

I think not. Look, there are countless variables. When Dear Leader said the constitution did he mean the American constitution? We need to take that into account. When he said all rules and articles, was he referring to laws, or perhaps ethical codes of a higher nature - perhaps even articles that have not yet been written down?

We need to factor in all the variables here, Greggery. Who would do the terminating? And as the old boy correctly pointed out, where are the verbs? Of whom is the subject? Subject - verb - object, dear, it's just good grammar.

I'm sorry, Greggery, we may never really know what Mr Trump meant to say, but I think we can safely say this:

Quote:

When Mexico sends it's people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you, they're not sending you. They're sending people that have a lot of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

Does that help to clarify things a bit?

Seems pretty clear, doesn't it? Undecided

"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution," Mr Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social.

Maybe Frank has dyslexia.

Wonder how it will go down when they eventually figure out that it means that the 2nd amendment and freedom of speech are gone?

Indeed

He said "all".

"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution," Mr Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social.

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Re: Donald Trump calls for end of US Constitution
Reply #96 - Dec 7^th, 2022 at 4:09pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 3:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 3:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 2:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 1:14pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 7:37am:

Now you can debate the massive fraud claim ...

No. There's no debate, because there was no fraud.

This has been proven in courts all over the country.

There's nothing to debate.

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 7:37am:

... but only shifty smug idiots would try to make out that Trump was calling for the abolishing of the Constitution.

That's exactly what he was doing.

"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution," Mr Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social.

Yes, but meaning is slippery, Greggery. Read your Derrida. Who can truly say what they mean? Can you? Can I? Can anybody?

I think not. Look, there are countless variables. When Dear Leader said the constitution did he mean the American constitution? We need to take that into account. When he said all rules and articles, was he referring to laws, or perhaps ethical codes of a higher nature - perhaps even articles that have not yet been written down?

We need to factor in all the variables here, Greggery. Who would do the terminating? And as the old boy correctly pointed out, where are the verbs? Of whom is the subject? Subject - verb - object, dear, it's just good grammar.

I'm sorry, Greggery, we may never really know what Mr Trump meant to say, but I think we can safely say this:

Quote:

When Mexico sends it's people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you, they're not sending you. They're sending people that have a lot of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

Does that help to clarify things a bit?

Seems pretty clear, doesn't it? Undecided

"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution," Mr Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social.

Maybe Frank has dyslexia.

Wonder how it will go down when they eventually figure out that it means that the 2nd amendment and freedom of speech are gone?

Gone. That's only fair, no?

If the leftards want to go flicking switches and shifting votes around, it's game on. Anything goes.

Mr Trump can step in and declare the winner. That's only fair, right? With all the leftards' dirty tricks, we wouldn't expect anything else.

Venezuelan voting machines, Soros-funded hacks, fake vote dumps, all of it. Mr Trump doesn't need to prove it in court, Rudy has a theory. Sidney has a necklace pen. And Mr Trump has the Proud Boys, standing back and standing by and ready to lynch Mike Pence should it come to that, but do you know?

I don't think Mr Trump was confused when he said he plans to terminate the constitution. I dont think he was having a senior's moment. I dont think he was mixing up his verbs and his adverbs in an attempt to express his love of the constitution, as the old boy surmises. I think it's probably the most honest thing he's ever said.

You?

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Frank Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 44737 Gender:	Re: Donald Trump calls for end of US Constitution Reply #97 - Dec 7^th, 2022 at 4:47pm Karnal wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 4:09pm: I don't think Mr Trump was confused when he said he plans to terminate the constitution. Where did he say that, Mustaphaken?
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Re: Donald Trump calls for end of US Constitution
Reply #99 - Dec 7^th, 2022 at 6:15pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 4:09pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 3:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 3:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 2:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 1:14pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 7:37am:

Now you can debate the massive fraud claim ...

No. There's no debate, because there was no fraud.

This has been proven in courts all over the country.

There's nothing to debate.

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 7:37am:

... but only shifty smug idiots would try to make out that Trump was calling for the abolishing of the Constitution.

That's exactly what he was doing.

"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution," Mr Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social.

Yes, but meaning is slippery, Greggery. Read your Derrida. Who can truly say what they mean? Can you? Can I? Can anybody?

I think not. Look, there are countless variables. When Dear Leader said the constitution did he mean the American constitution? We need to take that into account. When he said all rules and articles, was he referring to laws, or perhaps ethical codes of a higher nature - perhaps even articles that have not yet been written down?

We need to factor in all the variables here, Greggery. Who would do the terminating? And as the old boy correctly pointed out, where are the verbs? Of whom is the subject? Subject - verb - object, dear, it's just good grammar.

I'm sorry, Greggery, we may never really know what Mr Trump meant to say, but I think we can safely say this:

Quote:

When Mexico sends it's people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you, they're not sending you. They're sending people that have a lot of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

Does that help to clarify things a bit?

Seems pretty clear, doesn't it? Undecided

"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution," Mr Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social.

Maybe Frank has dyslexia.

Wonder how it will go down when they eventually figure out that it means that the 2nd amendment and freedom of speech are gone?

Gone. That's only fair, no?

If the leftards want to go flicking switches and shifting votes around, it's game on. Anything goes.

Mr Trump can step in and declare the winner. That's only fair, right? With all the leftards' dirty tricks, we wouldn't expect anything else.

Venezuelan voting machines, Soros-funded hacks, fake vote dumps, all of it. Mr Trump doesn't need to prove it in court, Rudy has a theory. Sidney has a necklace pen. And Mr Trump has the Proud Boys, standing back and standing by and ready to lynch Mike Pence should it come to that, but do you know?

I don't think Mr Trump was confused when he said he plans to terminate the constitution. I dont think he was having a senior's moment. I dont think he was mixing up his verbs and his adverbs in an attempt to express his love of the constitution, as the old boy surmises. I think it's probably the most honest thing he's ever said.

You?

Absolutely.

He'd like nothing better than to get rid of the constitution.

I mean, he openly admitted it:

"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution," the failed ex-president wrote in a post on Truth Social.

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Re: Donald Trump calls for end of US Constitution
Reply #100 - Dec 7^th, 2022 at 6:16pm

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 4:47pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 4:09pm:

I don't think Mr Trump was confused when he said he plans to terminate the constitution.

Where did he say that, Mustaphaken?

Where did he say he's allowed?

Hard to say, old boy. Executive privilege, innit.

Executive privilege, executive orders, executive time, the list goes on and on, ja?

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Reply #102 - Dec 7^th, 2022 at 6:20pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 6:16pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 4:47pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 4:09pm:

I don't think Mr Trump was confused when he said he plans to terminate the constitution.

Where did he say that, Mustaphaken?

Where did he say he's allowed?

Hard to say, old boy. Executive privilege, innit.

Executive privilege, executive orders, executive time, the list goes on and on, ja?

“Different people say different things but as I understand it, if you’re the president of the United States, you can terminate the constitution just by saying it’s terminated, even by thinking about it.

“There doesn’t have to be a process. There can be a process, but there doesn’t have to be.

“You’re the president – you make that decision.”

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Re: Donald Trump calls for end of US Constitution
Reply #103 - Dec 7^th, 2022 at 6:22pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 5:33pm:

The leftards wanted to abolish the electoral college and make other changes after they lost in 2016.

The recent court case shows they don't care for the 1st amendment.

We know the democRats don't want the 2A

The leftards are a bunch of hypocrites when to comes to the constitution

I know, right? Some leftard suggested a bit of electoral reform to make things nice for the voters.

Dear Leader suggests they do away with the system altogether.

Thanks for the compare and contrast, Baron. It's good to have some perspective, no?

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Re: Donald Trump calls for end of US Constitution
Reply #104 - Dec 7^th, 2022 at 6:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 6:20pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 6:16pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 4:47pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 7^th, 2022 at 4:09pm:

I don't think Mr Trump was confused when he said he plans to terminate the constitution.

Where did he say that, Mustaphaken?

Where did he say he's allowed?

Hard to say, old boy. Executive privilege, innit.

Executive privilege, executive orders, executive time, the list goes on and on, ja?

“Different people say different things but as I understand it, if you’re the president of the United States, you can terminate the constitution just by saying it’s terminated, even by thinking about it.

“There doesn’t have to be a process. There can be a process, but there doesn’t have to be.

“You’re the president – you make that decision.”

Thanks for providing the clarification, Greggery.

Are there any further questions?

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