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Reply #195 - Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:45pm
 
Boris wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:27pm:
Its all a ever see


Boris wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 12:22pm:
Another day - any idea how many times I've seen this?

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/nt-teenager-who-raped-sevenyearold-gir...

NT teenager who raped seven-year-old girl while on parole for arson to be released less than two months after being convicted
Citing a previous ruling, the sentencing judge said “allowing the degree of cumulation which would be required in the application of the ordinary principles” would have “a crushing effect” on the offender, given his youth.

A sixteen-year-old male who raped a seven-year-old girl in a Northern Territory town while on parole for arson will be released from detention less than two months after being convicted.

The teenager was sentenced in the Northern Territory Supreme Court on November 30 - a week before his eighteenth birthday - after pleading guilty to raping the girl in Tennant Creek on May 12 last year.

The court heard the girl had been watching television at the teenager’s house when he groped her before forcing her into a bedroom where she was raped.

The victim later told her mother the teenager “had sex with her in the front and the back”.

She had to be flown by the Royal Flying Doctor Service to Alice Springs for treatment.

The court heard the girl had been traumatised by the incident and was now afraid to go outside.

She struggles to sleep, does not want to go to school and wants to move away from Tennant Creek.

The victim’s mother told the court her once “bubbly and outgoing” daughter is now “scared and anxious”.

The girl’s father told the court the rape was “the worst thing imaginable to happen to a father’s daughter” and that the incident had “gutted him to the core”.

The offender was arrested four days after the incident and has been in custody since at the Don Dale Youth Detention Centre.

Justice Sonia Brownhill sentenced the teenager to three years in prison, suspended after one year and seven months. The maximum sentence for the offence is 25 years.



Do you hear the voice of the little girl?
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Reply #196 - Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:57pm
 
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Whatever fantasies you entertain, they don't belong here, Matty.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #197 - Dec 19th, 2022 at 4:11pm
 
All they do is rape and murder


The rates are off the scale

So not like other people

Available data indicate that Indigenous people are 15 to 20 times more likely than non-Indigenous people to commit violent offences.

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15% Percentage of reported sexual offence incidents in Australia which go to court.

12% Reoffending rate for sexual offences. This percentage drops to less than 5% if offenders enter a special program.

30..50% Estimated proportion of sexually abused children in Australia where the perpetrator was 18 years or younger.

7 Times an Aboriginal child in 2009 is more likely to be sexually abused than a non-Aboriginal child.

6 Times an Aboriginal woman in 2012 is more likely to be sexually abused than a non-Aboriginal woman.

14% Proportion of children on South Australian Aṉangu, Pitjantjatjara and Yankunytjatjara (APY) Aboriginal lands who have been sexually abused. Same rate for all of SA population: 0.12%.

42% Proportion of perpetrators of sexual abuse towards Aboriginal women who are non-Aboriginal; who are Aboriginal: 41%; who are both (e.g. pack rapes): 17%

Source: Aboriginal sexual abuse - Creative Spirits, retrieved from https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/health/aboriginal-sexual-abuse


Sexual abuse in Aboriginal communities
A sad chapter of Aboriginal health is the sexual health and abuse, especially of children. Issues like stolen wages and the governmental removal of children (Stolen Generations) lead to hopelessness and cultural dissociation.

This in turn leads to inappropriately high alcohol consumption or petrol sniffing which causes violence and in the worst cases sexual abuse of children within some Aboriginal communities.

Sometimes children abuse other children because they have been watching porn or simply are bored [6]. Children as young as 6 have been observed performing oral sex on each other. "They say they're just playing, without having any sense that it's wrong." [7]

Aboriginal community and family structures that once protected children from sexual abuse are breaking down.

Rates of sexual assault among Aboriginal children in 2012 were between 2 and 4 times higher than those for non-Aboriginal children in NSW, Queensland, South Australia and the Northern Territory [8], the highest rates being in NSW [9].

The Breaking the Silence report of the Aboriginal Sexual Assault Taskforce (ACSAT) interviewed more than 300 Aboriginal people in NSW in 2007 and found that not one could name a family unaffected by the scourge of child sexual assault[7]. However, the government released no funding to implement the report's recommendations.

Some victims are under the age of 10. Young girls are reported as accepting that abuse was inevitable and resistance was futile [4]. Children trade sex for money, drugs, alcohol or petrol. Reports about sexual abuse in communities make "harrowing reading".

As a consequence sexually transmitted diseases have increased sharply. It comes to no surprise that Aboriginal children are almost 7 times more likely to self-harm, the second most common cause of death from external injury [8].

An inquiry found that Aboriginal women had been threatened by men if they gave evidence about child sex abuse [4], which led to no victims coming forward.

Professor Judy Atkins, an expert on trauma and abuse, says non-Aboriginal pedophiles show pornography to young Aboriginal males and give them alcohol on condition they bring young children to viewings [10]. "Some of them choose to work in [Aboriginal] communities because they know they have access to kids," she says. This happens also in rural towns.



Source: Aboriginal sexual abuse - Creative Spirits, retrieved from https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/health/aboriginal-sexual-abuse
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Reply #198 - Dec 19th, 2022 at 4:11pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:57pm:
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Whatever fantasies you entertain, they don't belong here, Matty.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Really, dickheaddle? Really?


Justice Brownhill took into account mitigating circumstances in her sentencing.

She said the teenager - an initiated Warumungu person from Tennant Creek - had been exposed to serious domestic violence that had seen him diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder at the age of 10.

His father had spent time in prison for domestic violence offences and he had a long history of contact with the child protection system due to his father’s absence and his mother’s alcohol abuse.

He has been diagnosed with foetal alcohol spectrum disorder, severe expressive and receptive language disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, conduct disorder and chronic PTSD.

He had also been diagnosed with a mild intellectual disability and “severe cannabis use disorder”.

He had been smoking cannabis on the day he raped the girl.

The court heard the teenager had struggled to engage at school because of bullying and his PTSD.

But since he had been at Don Dale he had been engaged in school and had received positive feedback from teachers about his behaviour and enthusiasm in the classroom.

He now hopes to finish Year 12 and join the army.

The teenager would ordinarily have been transferred to adult prison when he turned 18 on December 7.

But the court heard the chief executive of the Department of Territory Families would likely give permission for him to complete his sentence at the youth detention centre due to his previous exemplary behaviour at Don Dale.

He will remain on a Territory Families or Community Corrections supervision order upon his release and will be forbidden from contacting his victim or her parents.
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/nt-teenager-who-raped-sevenyearold-gir


So under Aboriginal law he is an adult - initiated into the mysteries -  but for whitey law he's a child.

Will the girl's clan spear him when they see him?
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Reply #199 - Dec 19th, 2022 at 4:35pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 4:11pm:
Will the girl's clan spear him when they see him?


Difficult to say... but the tragic family dysfunction you described tells us we must close the gap ASAP - socially and economically. 
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Reply #200 - Dec 19th, 2022 at 8:29pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 4:35pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 4:11pm:
Will the girl's clan spear him when they see him?


Difficult to say... but the tragic family dysfunction you described tells us we must close the gap ASAP - socially and economically. 

I hope they do the Aboriginal justice on him and cut his balls off.  And spear him. Proud  Aboriginal culture wise.

Looking after country, no less.
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Reply #201 - Dec 19th, 2022 at 9:02pm
 
KangAnon wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 11:19am:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 11:16am:
KangAnon wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 10:47am:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 3:13pm:
KangAnon wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 2:48pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 2:27pm:
KangAnon wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 1:47pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 11:22am:
"But the fact that you see it perfectly normal and accurate to claim this is representative of all Indigenous Australians is what people are talking about, and highlighting in your behaviour."

Nobody says that


Boris wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 8:41am:
KangAnon wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 8:30am:
In case there has been some miscommunication, you're saying that ALL Indigenous Australians do these things you claim, not just their bad elements like in any community?


Yes


a.  he's talking about a predisposition to anti-social norms as clearly demonstrated in certain cultural groups.

b.  he's giving you back the same kind of sweeping generalisation that you (and others here) employ as one of your basic tools of wordfare.

c.  he is successfully removing the piste from you ...


You lot seem to do that all the time...

"Oh he's just taking the piss"

"Oh I was just joking about using the army to kill 90% of indigenous australians because may 10% are worth saving"

Do you really think that defense works?

Should I insult you, or invite you to be painfully killed somehow, but the just claim I was being sarcastic or was just kidding or taking the piss?

And if you click on the quote links and see the full context, you'll see he's not talking about social norms, he's accusing them all of being child rapists and murderers.


Of course it's parody - nobody would seriously entertain the idea of the army shooting 90% of them!!  Probably 20% would suffice.... maybe 30-40% at a pinch..


So you want us to take your opinions on the matter as holding any merit whatsoever when you joke about killing nearly all Indigenous Australians?

How can you expect to be taken seriously?


How is 20% - at a pinch 30-40% = Most?  It's a minority!

I'm serious when I'm serious - you need to lighten up, dude.


You want me to lighten up when you're joking about genocide?

How about you kill yourself, and 90% of your family?  Murder-suicide, do us all a favour, and take Boris out with you too.


Good joke!   Nah - better to cleanse the perps, eh?
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Reply #202 - Dec 19th, 2022 at 10:25pm
 
She said the teenager - an initiated Warumungu person from Tennant Creek - had been exposed to serious domestic violence that had seen him diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder at the age of 10.

He was gang raped for 3 months - "initiated" and has made permanently mentally ill because of the way he was raised.

The Left loves this

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Reply #203 - Dec 19th, 2022 at 10:37pm
 
Boris wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 10:25pm:
She said the teenager - an initiated Warumungu person from Tennant Creek - had been exposed to serious domestic violence that had seen him diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder at the age of 10.

He was gang raped for 3 months - "initiated" and has made permanently mentally ill because of the way he was raised.

The Left loves this


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Bullshit, Matty.  Where is your evidence to prove this?  Non-existent as usual, hey?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #204 - Dec 19th, 2022 at 10:54pm
 
Do you know what happens at Initiations?

I do.

Graham Davis used some previously unaired footage of Fred Hollows, filmed in 1992 when HIV-AIDS loomed as a key problem in the outback. Hollows was going public about the practice of elders in some tribes sodomising boys during the course of initiation. Davis asked: "Does that mean Aborigines ought to be told not to do it?" Hollows replied: "Yes, of course. What else am I going to say? Do it and die?"

Using the plain-spoken Hollows to ventilate a matter the politically correct would rather no one talked about was a deft touch on Davis's part, in an exemplary cover story. Although no other media, as far as I can tell, picked up on the sexual element in initiation ceremonies, no doubt it gave an added edge to the debate that raged, in and out of federal parliament, all through the week on the role of customary law.

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In 1992 Fred Hollows was filmed talking about the practice of Aboriginal elders in some remote communities sodomising boys during initiations, and he complained about the HIV infections. The footage was aired only recently (mid-2000s). Nowra says, “It is highly probable his comments were considered too inflammatory and regarded as culturally insensitive.”
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Reply #205 - Dec 20th, 2022 at 10:43am
 
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You really are a nong, Matty.  Where is your evidence that the "Left loves this," this being Indigenous mistreatment?  Non-existent of course, like all your other evidence.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #206 - Dec 20th, 2022 at 10:52am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 3:57pm:
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Whatever fantasies you entertain, they don't belong here, Matty.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Neither do you & yours.
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Reply #207 - Dec 20th, 2022 at 11:09am
 
Fantasies of former long-dead colonialist imperialist claiming of all the land the 'emperor' can see are gone, dead and buried and have been under our, and international, laws for a very long time.

You wouldn't entertain some white guy wandering into Arnhem Land and claiming it on the basis that nobody there can resist, would you?  That's what the ancient aboriginal claims were - they simply saw a piece of country, decided they wanted it and kept all other claimants out... yet those who sailed the earth and claimed country for their own nation by the same rules are now vilified...

Sorry, son - those days are gone.... there are no native claims applicable any more by conquest and demand and conflict over ownership.  Nowadays you buy land like everyone else.....

Aboriginal colonialism must not be allowed to continue.
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Reply #208 - Dec 20th, 2022 at 4:15pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20th, 2022 at 10:43am:
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You really are a nong, Matty.  Where is your evidence that the "Left loves this," this being Indigenous mistreatment?  Non-existent of course, like all your other evidence.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



If you want evidence look at yourself

You are a rabid Leftie

Available data indicate that Indigenous people are 15 to 20 times more likely than non-Indigenous people to commit violent offences.

That is 1,500% to 2,000% more likely to commit violent offences.

That you have never seen.

The consequences of child sexual abuse are horrifying:


And you are happy about it. You think these are wonderful people.
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Reply #209 - Dec 20th, 2022 at 5:25pm
 
Boris wrote on Dec 20th, 2022 at 4:15pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20th, 2022 at 10:43am:
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You really are a nong, Matty.  Where is your evidence that the "Left loves this," this being Indigenous mistreatment?  Non-existent of course, like all your other evidence.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


If you want evidence look at yourself

You are a rabid Leftie

Available data indicate that Indigenous people are 15 to 20 times more likely than non-Indigenous people to commit violent offences.

That is 1,500% to 2,000% more likely to commit violent offences.

That you have never seen.

The consequences of child sexual abuse are horrifying:

And you are happy about it. You think these are wonderful people.


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Poor, poor, Matty such a Racist one track mind.  Look it's Christmas, a time for joy and peace, appreciate it.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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