Australian Politics Forum - The Greens Rent Freeze Plan

Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 44744 Gender:	Re: The Greens Rent Freeze Plan Reply #15 - Jan 4^th, 2023 at 5:17pm freediver wrote on Jan 4^th, 2023 at 5:07pm: If there is a shortage of rental properties due to government price control, guess which demographic will be the first to become homeless? The .... er..... 'some Australians' demographic.
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Reply #16 - Jan 6^th, 2023 at 1:42pm

Sophia wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 6:59am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 9^th, 2022 at 6:44pm:

This'll be good in a time of rising interest rates on mortgages - the investors might take a hit for a change instead of the cream.

Long overdue!!

Sophia - might be some good buys coming on the market soon...

I just saw this topic… maybe you’re right… there’s more interest rate rises on the way for 2023.
Would be nice to get our downsizer in the peninsula area… but alas the prices are still hefty and selling like hotcakes.

As for rent freezing… that’s all well and good… but how about interest rates/council rates/insurance/repairs freeze also?
It goes hand in hand.
Otherwise what’s happening I hear…. Renters are in bidding wars for the very few available rents around.
Investors are getting cold feet and either not buying or selling what they have at the current high prices.
This is what causes rent shortage.

I've long advocated a freeze on costs of living - that includes not only rental but mortgage rates and all the other things that go into the pot... road tolls, rail fares, utility bills under the failed 'privatisation system (just got the latest $28.04 with my 7.7 Kw system - miss nothing - read the bill wholus and it says "this is an estimated bill" - say what? You put in one of those new-fangled meters which transmits direct to you and you say you estimate a bill? Keeping eyes open for rats in the next bill) - the false trick of the global economy which benefits a few mightily while essentially robbing all others while the robbers hide in tax havens (maybe all cash etc transfers out of tax havens should cop a tax before being allowed entry to Oz), the utter failures of de-industrialisation to give the benefits, the absolute lie that technology was going to free us all from toil (yeah - we can all live in a car down by the beach and surf all day or become modern day swaggies - no other choices - freed a lot of people to have nothing) - anyway - I do go on......

The madness persists in the demand for buying a home, much of which is driven by the desperation of seeing prices rising and rising regardless of all real factors, so people are rushing to get what they can before their dream $1m house becomes a nightmare $2m house - thus pushing the demand for higher incomes perpetually.

If it were not for governments raising their arses to keep the banks happy by forever maintaining the mortgage madness, this whole thing would collapse and the poor bank shareholders would take a bath... long overdue. Never forget that your politician breed will 'suffer' due to their shares in banks and their list of investment properties.... insider trading and self interest are the prime drivers of their decision making... not YOU!

And it's your money they use to build their empires..... same as Yong Brittany - girl 'outside' the 'bubble' gets the same treatment - cops $50k - inside the 'bubble' is worth $3m .... plenty of lovely just lying around in Cambra for their use as they see fit in their ivory towers.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48834 At my desk.	Re: The Greens Rent Freeze Plan Reply #17 - Jan 6^th, 2023 at 1:58pm What maximum price would you put on a loaf of bread?
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Re: The Greens Rent Freeze Plan
Reply #18 - Jan 6^th, 2023 at 4:35pm

freediver wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 1:58pm:

What maximum price would you put on a loaf of bread?

20c?? So you're going to try on a dividie and say it's either black or white - you either let the market continue on its mad downhill avalanche over towns and villages and cities or we go down under inflation?

You seem to forget that the inflation in Germany between the Wars had many causes - not least the calculated one of not paying top Deutschmark for reparations. Another example of der Schtaat gone mad with its own power and control and contempt for the actual people... plenty of that going around.....

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: The Greens Rent Freeze Plan Reply #19 - Jan 6^th, 2023 at 4:40pm Rent Freeze? For 2 years? The Greens are dumb but they can't be THIS DUMB....can they??? What nut job in their ranks came up with this half baked idea?? 😳
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Re: The Greens Rent Freeze Plan
Reply #20 - Jan 6^th, 2023 at 5:40pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 4:35pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 1:58pm:

What maximum price would you put on a loaf of bread?

20c?? So you're going to try on a dividie and say it's either black or white - you either let the market continue on its mad downhill avalanche over towns and villages and cities or we go down under inflation?

You seem to forget that the inflation in Germany between the Wars had many causes - not least the calculated one of not paying top Deutschmark for reparations. Another example of der Schtaat gone mad with its own power and control and contempt for the actual people... plenty of that going around.....

How many bakers and other small businesses would your plan put out of business?

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Re: The Greens Rent Freeze Plan
Reply #21 - Jan 6^th, 2023 at 6:55pm

freediver wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 5:40pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 4:35pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 1:58pm:

What maximum price would you put on a loaf of bread?

20c?? So you're going to try on a dividie and say it's either black or white - you either let the market continue on its mad downhill avalanche over towns and villages and cities or we go down under inflation?

You seem to forget that the inflation in Germany between the Wars had many causes - not least the calculated one of not paying top Deutschmark for reparations. Another example of der Schtaat gone mad with its own power and control and contempt for the actual people... plenty of that going around.....

How many bakers and other small businesses would your plan put out of business?

I'm just offering a figure - you asked.... would you like more per loaf?

Rent freeze - maybe it's either that or rent free when squatters start taking up residence in unoccupied investments .... used to be a big thing in London... this living in a squat, having a nosh etc... students and such.

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Re: The Greens Rent Freeze Plan
Reply #22 - Jan 6^th, 2023 at 9:29pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 6:55pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 5:40pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 4:35pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 1:58pm:

What maximum price would you put on a loaf of bread?

20c?? So you're going to try on a dividie and say it's either black or white - you either let the market continue on its mad downhill avalanche over towns and villages and cities or we go down under inflation?

You seem to forget that the inflation in Germany between the Wars had many causes - not least the calculated one of not paying top Deutschmark for reparations. Another example of der Schtaat gone mad with its own power and control and contempt for the actual people... plenty of that going around.....

How many bakers and other small businesses would your plan put out of business?

I'm just offering a figure - you asked.... would you like more per loaf?

Rent freeze - maybe it's either that or rent free when squatters start taking up residence in unoccupied investments .... used to be a big thing in London... this living in a squat, having a nosh etc... students and such.

I would like you to be rational about economics.

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Re: The Greens Rent Freeze Plan
Reply #23 - Jan 6^th, 2023 at 9:32pm

freediver wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 9:29pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 6:55pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 5:40pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 4:35pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 1:58pm:

What maximum price would you put on a loaf of bread?

20c?? So you're going to try on a dividie and say it's either black or white - you either let the market continue on its mad downhill avalanche over towns and villages and cities or we go down under inflation?

You seem to forget that the inflation in Germany between the Wars had many causes - not least the calculated one of not paying top Deutschmark for reparations. Another example of der Schtaat gone mad with its own power and control and contempt for the actual people... plenty of that going around.....

How many bakers and other small businesses would your plan put out of business?

I'm just offering a figure - you asked.... would you like more per loaf?

Rent freeze - maybe it's either that or rent free when squatters start taking up residence in unoccupied investments .... used to be a big thing in London... this living in a squat, having a nosh etc... students and such.

I would like you to be rational about economics.

I'm always rational about economics - it doesn't really work... just kind of staggers along on life support. That's as rational as they come.

Economics non-aligned with the needs of a society is nothing but exploitation.

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Re: The Greens Rent Freeze Plan
Reply #24 - Jan 7^th, 2023 at 7:48am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 9:32pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 9:29pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 6:55pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 5:40pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 4:35pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 1:58pm:

What maximum price would you put on a loaf of bread?

20c?? So you're going to try on a dividie and say it's either black or white - you either let the market continue on its mad downhill avalanche over towns and villages and cities or we go down under inflation?

You seem to forget that the inflation in Germany between the Wars had many causes - not least the calculated one of not paying top Deutschmark for reparations. Another example of der Schtaat gone mad with its own power and control and contempt for the actual people... plenty of that going around.....

How many bakers and other small businesses would your plan put out of business?

I'm just offering a figure - you asked.... would you like more per loaf?

Rent freeze - maybe it's either that or rent free when squatters start taking up residence in unoccupied investments .... used to be a big thing in London... this living in a squat, having a nosh etc... students and such.

I would like you to be rational about economics.

I'm always rational about economics - it doesn't really work... just kind of staggers along on life support. That's as rational as they come.

Economics non-aligned with the needs of a society is nothing but exploitation.

And you would "fix" it by sending a long line of bakers to the dole office?

We are wealthier and healthier than any previous generation in history. How do you get from there to staggering along on life support?

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Re: The Greens Rent Freeze Plan
Reply #25 - Jan 7^th, 2023 at 8:07am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 6^th, 2023 at 4:40pm:

Rent Freeze? For 2 years?

The Greens are dumb but they can't be THIS DUMB....can they???

What nut job in their ranks came up with this half baked idea?? 😳

And only an ignorant fool would vote for them given THIS is the obscene level of bull tripe they seriously believe will help Australia.

I really don't know where to begin in dissecting their latest offer of insanity.

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Re: The Greens Rent Freeze Plan
Reply #26 - Jan 9^th, 2023 at 3:13pm

The Albo-Bowen Axis if Lunacy:

Federal teal independents are split over the Albanese government’s compensation package for coal companies, with North Sydney MP Kylea Tink warning Australians will ultimately pay for the deal through their taxes, while Goldstein MP Zoe Daniel says the reimbursements are a necessary evil.

The Australian has previously revealed compensation for coal-fired power stations and companies could surpass $1bn, with the Queensland and NSW governments both negotiating packages of about $500m to offset supply contracts above the $125-a-tonne cap set by the commonwealth.

The idiotic ideologues forbid coal production - affordable, reliable - and pay companies compensation for government prohibition. Wwhy not invest that $1bn in something productive, like hydro power or R&D or gas?

What has Albo done besides spending raxpayers' money? Nothing. Does he have plans for doing anything else? No.

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12511 Gender:	Re: The Greens Rent Freeze Plan Reply #27 - Jan 9^th, 2023 at 3:57pm freediver wrote on Dec 10^th, 2022 at 8:43am: Rent caps in New York are often used by economists as a good example of naïve economic policy backfiring and having the opposite effect to that intended. Of course the correct policy requires a good stock of public housing with subsidized rentals for low income earners.
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Re: The Greens Rent Freeze Plan
Reply #28 - Jan 9^th, 2023 at 5:02pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 9^th, 2023 at 3:57pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 10^th, 2022 at 8:43am:

Rent caps in New York are often used by economists as a good example of naïve economic policy backfiring and having the opposite effect to that intended.

Of course the correct policy requires a good stock of public housing with subsidized rentals for low income earners.

Have you informed the CCP about that correct policy of yours?

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