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Baronvonrort

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Trust the Science...maybe not this science
Dec 11^th, 2022 at 9:37pm

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Covid 19 vaccines and the misinterpretation of perceived side effects clarity on the safety of vaccines

Abstract

In the era of Covid 19 and mass vaccination programs, the anti-vaccination movement across the world is currently at an all-time high. Much of this anti-vaccination sentiment could be attributed to the alleged side effects that are perpetuated across social media from anti-vaccination groups.

Fear mongering and misinformation being peddled by people with no scientific training to terrorise people into staying unvaccinated is not just causing people to remain susceptible to viral outbreaks, but could also be causing more side effects seen in the vaccination process. This brief review will offer data that may demonstrate that misinformation perpetuated by the anti-vaccination movement may be causing more deaths and side effects from any vaccine.

A mini review of published literature has been conducted and found that mental stress clearly causes vasoconstriction and arterial constriction of the blood vessels. Therefore, if subjects are panicked, concerned, stressed or scared of the vaccination, their arteries will constrict and become smaller in and around the time of receiving the vaccine. This biological mechanism (the constriction of veins, arteries and vessels under mental stress) is the most likely cause for where there has been blood clots, strokes, heart attacks, dizziness, fainting, blurred vision, loss of smell and taste that may have been experienced shortly after vaccine administration. The extreme mental stress of the patient could most likely be attributed to the fear mongering and scare tactics used by various anti-vaccination groups.

This paper does not aim to rule in or out every side effect seen, but it is highly likely that many apparent side effects seen shortly after a subject has received a vaccine could be the result of restricted or congested blood flow from blood vessel or arterial constriction caused by emotional distress or placebo based on fear around vaccines.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9629406/

Right...so it's the fear mongering from anti vaxxers that cause these side effects it has nothing to do with the vaccines.

Does anyone believe this bullshit?
Grin

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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30088 Gender:	Re: Trust the Science...maybe not this science Reply #1 - Dec 11^th, 2022 at 9:47pm I could have told you that LOL
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 46211 Gender:	Re: Trust the Science...maybe not this science Reply #2 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 9:55am Two weeks to flatten the curve.
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Captain Caveman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6211 Gender:	Re: Trust the Science...maybe not this science Reply #3 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 1:17pm I am science....
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 46211 Gender:	Re: Trust the Science...maybe not this science Reply #4 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 1:31pm Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 14^th, 2022 at 1:17pm: I am science.... And so is my wife!!
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wombatwoody Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3206 Wombat NSW	Re: Trust the Science...maybe not this science Reply #5 - Dec 14^th, 2022 at 9:04pm Apparently he's back on Twitter thanks to Elon Musk.
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18476 Gender:	Re: Trust the Science...maybe not this science Reply #6 - Jan 8^th, 2023 at 6:05pm This was published in Scientific American so it must be legit with a name like that. Damar initiated that violence it's amusing someone would put their name on this rubbish and get it published.
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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: Trust the Science...maybe not this science Reply #7 - Jan 8^th, 2023 at 6:31pm How bizarre. Just line em up and jab em, give em a free Bunnings sausage sizzle if that's what it takes.
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AusGeoff

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Re: Trust the Science...maybe not this science
Reply #8 - Jan 8^th, 2023 at 11:26pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 11^th, 2022 at 9:37pm:

Does anyone believe this bullshit?

Yes they do. 85% of the Australian population does.

Which is simply explained by the fact that the 14% who are
unvaccinated aren't capable of correctly interpreting scientific
data, and rely repeatedly on unqualified, non-medical opinion
promoted on conspiracy sites.

Oh... and as for quack doctor Robert Malone, who did NOT
"invent" mRNA "technology"...

Malone routinely sells himself on TV shows as the inventor of mRNA
vaccines, the technology used by Pfizer and Moderna for their COVID
shots, but doesn’t get the credit he deserves for their development.
While he was involved in some early research into the technology, his
role in its creation was minimal at best, say half a dozen COVID experts
and researchers, including three who worked closely with Malone.

In spreading these exaggerations and unfounded claims, Malone joins
medical professionals and scientists, like Dr. Joseph Mercola whose profiles
have grown during the pandemic as they spread misinformation about
mask-wearing and convoluted conspiracy theories about virus experts
like Dr. Anthony Fauci.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/03/technology/robert-malone-covid.html

Malone was banned from Twitter for violating the platform's COVID
misinformation policies. Soon after, YouTube removed videos of a
controversial interview he did with Spotify podcast host Joe Rogan.

—Enough said. Angry

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Re: Trust the Science...maybe not this science
Reply #9 - Jan 8^th, 2023 at 11:52pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 11^th, 2022 at 9:47pm:

I could have told you that Cheesy

LOL

LOL... poor old Lastnail. Still relying on silly conspiracy
memes to prove a non-existent claim. Why is it that you
never post any accredited scientific facts and figures
to support the myriad absurd claims you've made about the
pandemic and the vaccines?

Why are all your responses to legitimate questions simply
couched as puerile jokes or personal insults? Don't you
have anything of substance to offer in the way of intelligent
debate?

I really can't believe that someone can be so continuously
lacking in debating skills, such that they make themselves
out to be no more intelligent than the local village idiot.

—Sad really. Roll Eyes

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Baronvonrort

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Re: Trust the Science...maybe not this science
Reply #10 - Jan 9^th, 2023 at 12:03am

AusGeoff wrote on Jan 8^th, 2023 at 11:26pm:

Malone was banned from Twitter for violating the platform's COVID
misinformation policies. Soon after, YouTube removed videos of a
controversial interview he did with Spotify podcast host Joe Rogan.

—Enough said. Angry

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Martin Kulldorff
@MartinKulldorff
Epidemiologist. Biostatistician. Infectious disease outbreaks. Vaccine safety. Harvard professor (on leave).

I do not understand why anyone is okay with LinkedIn/Microsoft, Facebook, YouTube/Google and Twitter having censored factually correct covid information.

https://twitter.com/MartinKulldorff/status/1599171045310623744?cxt=HHwWgMCjrfnls...

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Vinay Prasad MD MPH
@VPrasadMDMPH
Professor @ucsf
, Physician-Scientist, Writer; More at @vkprasadlab

Twitter COVID misinformation policy blocked truthful content; It was misused by ideologues who were not scientists. I summarize issues in this video

https://twitter.com/VPrasadMDMPH/status/1600169446848753664?cxt=HHwWgMDTvcjo-LQs...

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Jay Bhattacharya
@DrJBhattacharya
Professor Stanford School of Medicine. MD, PhD. Health policy: infectious diseases, covid, health economics. Scientific freedom.

Governments have been the most important and most damaging source of covid misinformation during the pandemic. With the Indiana AG's office & @MartinKulldorff
, we prepared a list of particulars, including recovered immunity, school closures, etc.

https://twitter.com/DrJBhattacharya/status/1605840394482130944

History shows those 3 have been right about everything with covid from day 1.

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Jasin Gold Member Online Posts: 48294 Gender:	Re: Trust the Science...maybe not this science Reply #11 - Jan 9^th, 2023 at 6:04am Television - the drug of a nation. Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation.
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18476 Gender:	Re: Trust the Science...maybe not this science Reply #12 - Jan 10^th, 2023 at 5:18pm .
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Sophia Gold Member Offline Posts: 8474	Re: Trust the Science...maybe not this science Reply #13 - Jan 14^th, 2023 at 11:37pm Trust the science this science? What could possibly go wrong…right? And the purpose of this science is…..? https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8kq6aRp/
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18476 Gender:	Re: Trust the Science...maybe not this science Reply #14 - Feb 1^st, 2023 at 12:10am Another example of big pharma saying they can replace eating properly and getting some exercise.
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