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Boris Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3978 Gender:	Send the army into Alice Springs Dec 19^th, 2022 at 8:54am The NT Gummit is gutless https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/senator-jacinta-price-says-af...
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Reply #1 - Dec 19^th, 2022 at 9:01am

She's right in a way that it is 'racism' - it is a new form of racism, and a very pervasive and compelling one, generated by the fear of being called racist and so failing to do things that need to be done, and thus rather than resolving the real problems - actually creating and adding to them - part of the problem and not the solution.

In other areas of life it would be called craven cowardice.... sadly, leaving them to their own devices to self-destruct will only work if they are given that Noweto I talked about... a Homeland of their own to do as they choose .... two years and we'll pick up the pieces.

Again - the armed forces as a peacekeeping force may only be employed once the civil authority concedes that it cannot control the situation and hands off to the troops - who will operate under civil rules and laws as peacekeepers under the direction of civil authority.

From another view - it's way past time that governments stopped kow-towing to this 'racist' nonsense and actually promoting it by their own actions (such as cravenly handing over special privileges, rights and treatment and possession of 'traditional' land etc under rules that have been dead for over two hundred years - feeding the disease instead of curing it); to the endless whining and threats of terrorism of a few misfits and miscreants; and to a stupid and self-serving media intent on controlling discussion in this country according to its own agenda.

Time To Drain The Swamps!!

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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10766 Gender:	Re: Send the army into Alice Springs Reply #2 - Dec 19^th, 2022 at 9:32am Notify the Dog Pound
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 84447 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Send the army into Alice Springs Reply #3 - Dec 19^th, 2022 at 11:21am Head 'em up... round 'em up .....move 'em in .... bring in that herd ......
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Re: Send the army into Alice Springs
Reply #4 - Dec 19^th, 2022 at 12:22pm

Another day - any idea how many times I've seen this?

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/nt-teenager-who-raped-sevenyearold-gir...

NT teenager who raped seven-year-old girl while on parole for arson to be released less than two months after being convicted
Citing a previous ruling, the sentencing judge said “allowing the degree of cumulation which would be required in the application of the ordinary principles” would have “a crushing effect” on the offender, given his youth.

A sixteen-year-old male who raped a seven-year-old girl in a Northern Territory town while on parole for arson will be released from detention less than two months after being convicted.

The teenager was sentenced in the Northern Territory Supreme Court on November 30 - a week before his eighteenth birthday - after pleading guilty to raping the girl in Tennant Creek on May 12 last year.

The court heard the girl had been watching television at the teenager’s house when he groped her before forcing her into a bedroom where she was raped.

The victim later told her mother the teenager “had sex with her in the front and the back”.

She had to be flown by the Royal Flying Doctor Service to Alice Springs for treatment.

The court heard the girl had been traumatised by the incident and was now afraid to go outside.

She struggles to sleep, does not want to go to school and wants to move away from Tennant Creek.

The victim’s mother told the court her once “bubbly and outgoing” daughter is now “scared and anxious”.

The girl’s father told the court the rape was “the worst thing imaginable to happen to a father’s daughter” and that the incident had “gutted him to the core”.

The offender was arrested four days after the incident and has been in custody since at the Don Dale Youth Detention Centre.

Justice Sonia Brownhill sentenced the teenager to three years in prison, suspended after one year and seven months. The maximum sentence for the offence is 25 years.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 41800	Re: Send the army into Alice Springs Reply #5 - Dec 19^th, 2022 at 1:01pm Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Matty, really?
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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29493 Gender:	Re: Send the army into Alice Springs Reply #6 - Dec 19^th, 2022 at 1:09pm Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19^th, 2022 at 1:01pm: [url]https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5536/WEbaRN.png[/url] Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Matty, really?
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Reply #7 - Dec 19^th, 2022 at 2:26pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19^th, 2022 at 1:01pm:

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Matty, really? Roll Eyes

Yeah, really, dickheaddle. Really.

Justice Brownhill took into account mitigating circumstances in her sentencing.

She said the teenager - an initiated Warumungu person from Tennant Creek - had been exposed to serious domestic violence that had seen him diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder at the age of 10.

His father had spent time in prison for domestic violence offences and he had a long history of contact with the child protection system due to his father’s absence and his mother’s alcohol abuse.

He has been diagnosed with foetal alcohol spectrum disorder, severe expressive and receptive language disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, conduct disorder and chronic PTSD.

He had also been diagnosed with a mild intellectual disability and “severe cannabis use disorder”.

He had been smoking cannabis on the day he raped the girl.

The court heard the teenager had struggled to engage at school because of bullying and his PTSD.

But since he had been at Don Dale he had been engaged in school and had received positive feedback from teachers about his behaviour and enthusiasm in the classroom.

He now hopes to finish Year 12 and join the army.

The teenager would ordinarily have been transferred to adult prison when he turned 18 on December 7.

But the court heard the chief executive of the Department of Territory Families would likely give permission for him to complete his sentence at the youth detention centre due to his previous exemplary behaviour at Don Dale.

He will remain on a Territory Families or Community Corrections supervision order upon his release and will be forbidden from contacting his victim or her parents.
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/nt-teenager-who-raped-sevenyearold-gir...

So under Aboriginal law he is an adult - initiated into the mysteries - but for whitey law he's a child.

Will the girl's clan spear him when they see him?

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Boris Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3978 Gender:	Re: Send the army into Alice Springs Reply #8 - Dec 19^th, 2022 at 3:39pm Welcome to Country
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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: Send the army into Alice Springs Reply #9 - Dec 19^th, 2022 at 4:55pm Send in the VIC cops to smash the little black crunts heads into the ground, shoot them in the neck with rubber bullets, throw them in the back of the paddy wagon, give them a rough ride back to HQ book em and jail em and then go round up the wise pizzed fkkn elders.
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Re: Send the army into Alice Springs
Reply #10 - Dec 19^th, 2022 at 5:01pm

Johnnie wrote on Dec 19^th, 2022 at 4:55pm:

Send in the VIC cops to smash the little black crunts heads into the ground, shoot them in the neck with rubber bullets, throw them in the back of the paddy wagon, give them a rough ride back to HQ book em and jail em and then go round up the wise pizzed fkkn elders.

I am sensing frustration...... Huh

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Reply #11 - Dec 19^th, 2022 at 5:16pm

The army couldn't do anything about it. It's just going to get worse until Alice resembles the barrios of Los Angeles. I know it is a human trait to believe every problem has a solution, but that is naive. Some problems have no solution. Like a disease they have to run their course. Governments can throw all the money in the world at the problem and it will not change anything.

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Reply #12 - Dec 19^th, 2022 at 5:41pm

issuevoter wrote on Dec 19^th, 2022 at 5:16pm:

The army couldn't do anything about it. It's just going to get worse until Alice resembles the barrios of Los Angeles. I know it is a human trait to believe every problem has a solution, but that is naive. Some problems have no solution. Like a disease they have to run their course. Governments can throw all the money in the world at the problem and it will not change anything.

Of course there is a solution. It is a problem created by Aborigines, for Aborigines. Aborigines cannot blame whitey for their own neglect and abuse of their own children and each other. That's utter bollocks.

Aborigines despise themselves, that is why they are doing this to themselves, over generations. No self-respecting people would sink so low and then wallow in the face of every kind of assistance and urging not to. Other people everywhere are lifting themselves out of misery while the Aborigine sinks lower and lower.

If my country was colonised my response would not be to go rapey violent ON MY OWN PEOPLE and get drunk and drug addled and avoid school and moan endlessly about how I coulda been a contender if only..... How is that a response, FFS???

Aborigines are EITHER full members of the human race with all the agency and self-direction that entails or they are not - in which case what the bloody hell is the point of giving a voice to a people who are incapable of forging their own destiny in the world. The Stone Age Is OVER. Take it from there.

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Captain Caveman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6211 Gender:	Re: Send the army into Alice Springs Reply #13 - Dec 19^th, 2022 at 6:37pm Remove the parents from the children. Kids may stand a chance then. Yep, you heard me.
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Re: Send the army into Alice Springs
Reply #14 - Dec 19^th, 2022 at 6:51pm

Johnnie wrote on Dec 19^th, 2022 at 4:55pm:

Send in the VIC cops to smash the little black crunts heads into the ground, shoot them in the neck with rubber bullets, throw them in the back of the paddy wagon, give them a rough ride back to HQ book em and jail em and then go round up the wise pizzed fkkn elders.

Another whinging Dictorian because they couldn't do as they were asked?

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