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Reply #15 - Dec 19th, 2022 at 6:52pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 5:16pm:
The army couldn't do anything about it. It's just going to get worse until Alice resembles the barrios of Los Angeles. I know it is a human trait to believe every problem has a solution, but that is naive. Some problems have no solution. Like a disease they have to run their course. Governments can throw all the money in the world at the problem and it will not change anything.


And they have ... and it hasn't.
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Reply #16 - Dec 19th, 2022 at 7:03pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 5:41pm:
issuevoter wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 5:16pm:
The army couldn't do anything about it. It's just going to get worse until Alice resembles the barrios of Los Angeles. I know it is a human trait to believe every problem has a solution, but that is naive. Some problems have no solution. Like a disease they have to run their course. Governments can throw all the money in the world at the problem and it will not change anything.



Of course there is a solution. It is a problem created by Aborigines, for Aborigines.  Aborigines cannot blame whitey for their own neglect and abuse of their own children and each other. That's utter bollocks.

Aborigines despise themselves, that is why they are doing this to themselves, over generations. No self-respecting people would sink so low and then wallow in the face of every kind of assistance and urging not to.  Other people everywhere are lifting themselves out of misery while the Aborigine sinks lower and lower.

If my country was colonised my response would not be to go rapey violent ON MY OWN PEOPLE and get drunk and drug addled and avoid school and moan endlessly about how I coulda been a contender if only.....  How is that a response, FFS???



Aborigines are EITHER full members of the human race with all the agency and self-direction that entails or they are not - in which case what the bloody hell is the point of giving a voice to a people who are incapable of forging their own destiny in the world. The Stone Age Is OVER.  Take it from there.





Well wasn't it?

There's next to SFA that haven't been at some stage.

What's going on in this country & other western countries is an absolute crock of shyte ...

they had 50,000 years of solitude & doing sfa except surviving ....

and they're bitching about being bought into the modern world for the last 200 years?

albeit  for the last 60 years that it's been on a bed of guilt ridden taxpayer funds to try & help with the adjustment.

Anyhoo .... $34 billion per annum later & the problems of the "gap" and the generational hurt and the domestic violence, alcoholism, drug abuse, child sexual abuse & criminal behaviour is worse than ever.

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Reply #17 - Dec 19th, 2022 at 10:35pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 6:37pm:
Remove the parents from the children.
Kids may stand a chance then.

Yep, you heard me.


they do all the time

Rudd was saying sorry and the Government people was in the camp taking kids


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Reply #18 - Dec 19th, 2022 at 10:51pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 2:26pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 19th, 2022 at 1:01pm:
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Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Matty, really?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Yeah, really, dickheaddle. Really.


Justice Brownhill took into account mitigating circumstances in her sentencing.

She said the teenager - an initiated Warumungu person from Tennant Creek - had been exposed to serious domestic violence that had seen him diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder at the age of 10.

His father had spent time in prison for domestic violence offences and he had a long history of contact with the child protection system due to his father’s absence and his mother’s alcohol abuse.

He has been diagnosed with foetal alcohol spectrum disorder, severe expressive and receptive language disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, conduct disorder and chronic PTSD.

He had also been diagnosed with a mild intellectual disability and “severe cannabis use disorder”.

He had been smoking cannabis on the day he raped the girl.

The court heard the teenager had struggled to engage at school because of bullying and his PTSD.

But since he had been at Don Dale he had been engaged in school and had received positive feedback from teachers about his behaviour and enthusiasm in the classroom.

He now hopes to finish Year 12 and join the army.

The teenager would ordinarily have been transferred to adult prison when he turned 18 on December 7.

But the court heard the chief executive of the Department of Territory Families would likely give permission for him to complete his sentence at the youth detention centre due to his previous exemplary behaviour at Don Dale.

He will remain on a Territory Families or Community Corrections supervision order upon his release and will be forbidden from contacting his victim or her parents.
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/nt-teenager-who-raped-sevenyearold-gir...

So under Aboriginal law he is an adult - initiated into the mysteries -  but for whitey law he's a child. 

Will the girl's clan spear him when they see him?



Pretty much says it all, doesn't it?  The Army can't accept him in that condition.....where does he go from there?

If he'd been removed we'd never hear the end of it....
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Reply #19 - Dec 19th, 2022 at 10:56pm
 
Initiated:

Graham Davis used some previously unaired footage of Fred Hollows, filmed in 1992 when HIV-AIDS loomed as a key problem in the outback. Hollows was going public about the practice of elders in some tribes sodomising boys during the course of initiation. Davis asked: "Does that mean Aborigines ought to be told not to do it?" Hollows replied: "Yes, of course. What else am I going to say? Do it and die?"

Using the plain-spoken Hollows to ventilate a matter the politically correct would rather no one talked about was a deft touch on Davis's part, in an exemplary cover story. Although no other media, as far as I can tell, picked up on the sexual element in initiation ceremonies, no doubt it gave an added edge to the debate that raged, in and out of federal parliament, all through the week on the role of customary law.

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In 1992 Fred Hollows was filmed talking about the practice of Aboriginal elders in some remote communities sodomising boys during initiations, and he complained about the HIV infections. The footage was aired only recently (mid-2000s). Nowra says, “It is highly probable his comments were considered too inflammatory and regarded as culturally insensitive.”
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Reply #20 - Dec 19th, 2022 at 11:42pm
 
I mean - only the looters, those attempting to murder police by ramming.. and such would be in the firing line.. they could really carry on their Warriors of The Aboriginal Resistance that way... become martyrs... go out in a blaze of glory...

It's not like the army would kill random blacks - only the really bad and dangerous ones.  Maybe 20%??? Who knows... it's their choice, eh?

NOBODY ELSE'S!!

"Major Grappler!"
"Madam Ambassador?"
"I've received word that you've extended your perimeter outside this compound!  I remind you that this is a peacekeeping operation... not a free-for-all!"
"I am aware of that....."
"Then why did you order your troops to defend a perimeter out as far as you can see?"
"You see those people down there next to that wall there, Madam Ambassador?  They've been settled there for two hours now.... after being chased there with knives guns and machetes by those ... insurgents you see lying out there in my perimeter.... we're feeding them now...not the insurgents lying there ...."
"It's against all the rules, Major!"
"Not my rules.... I ordered my troops to defend out as far as they can see.... that is what they saw.... now if you'll excuse me, I have work to do...."
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