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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 84501 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Native title granted to Widjabul Wia-bal people Reply #135 - Dec 28^th, 2022 at 4:18pm Land Rights For All! Once that was vilified as theft, appropriation, invasion and everything else colonial - now it is de rigeur for one group and by legal and social osmosis - must therefore apply equally to all other groups! Free Land claims For All NOW!!
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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: Native title granted to Widjabul Wia-bal people Reply #136 - Dec 28^th, 2022 at 6:02pm The Widjabul Wia-bal people, that's fkkn hilarious. The Drunk As Skunk people 1 would be more apt.
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Re: Native title granted to Widjabul Wia-bal people
Reply #137 - Dec 28^th, 2022 at 6:41pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 28^th, 2022 at 12:05pm:

Boris wrote on Dec 26^th, 2022 at 12:30pm:

Do children have a right not to go into the pot?

It's the ultimate insanity/blindness if they do go into the pot.

But "rights" don't have anything to do with it.

Speaking of negative "rights", everyone has a right not to live in poverty (UNUDHR article 23).

But only law can make it happen.

Everyone has the right to live safely in a war zone, too - it just doesn't happen a lot.

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Reply #138 - Dec 28^th, 2022 at 6:42pm

"The decision means Widjabul Wia-bal traditional owners now have the rights to carry out a number of cultural activities on non-freehold land, such as national parks and crown land.

The right to access, move about and traverse.
The right to camp and erect temporary shelters but not to permanently camp or occupy.
The right to hunt and fish for non-commercial purposes.
The right to access and use natural water resources for non-commercial purposes.
The right to gather, share and exchange natural resources for non-commercial purposes.
The right to conduct and participate in ceremonial, ritual and spiritual activities.
The right to maintain and protect places of importance under traditional laws and customs.
The right to transmit traditional knowledge to members of the native title claim group
The right to hold meetings."

It doesn't mean they own it - and it doesn't mean they can stop anyone else from using it.

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Reply #139 - Dec 28^th, 2022 at 7:36pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 28^th, 2022 at 6:42pm:

"The decision means Widjabul Wia-bal traditional owners now have the rights to carry out a number of cultural activities on non-freehold land, such as national parks and crown land.

The right to access, move about and traverse.
The right to camp and erect temporary shelters but not to permanently camp or occupy.
The right to hunt and fish for non-commercial purposes.
The right to access and use natural water resources for non-commercial purposes.
The right to gather, share and exchange natural resources for non-commercial purposes.
The right to conduct and participate in ceremonial, ritual and spiritual activities.
The right to maintain and protect places of importance under traditional laws and customs.
The right to transmit traditional knowledge to members of the native title claim group
The right to hold meetings."

It doesn't mean they own it - and it doesn't mean they can stop anyone else from using it.

They can fkk off.

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Re: Native title granted to Widjabul Wia-bal people
Reply #140 - Dec 28^th, 2022 at 8:17pm

Johnnie wrote on Dec 28^th, 2022 at 7:36pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 28^th, 2022 at 6:42pm:

"The decision means Widjabul Wia-bal traditional owners now have the rights to carry out a number of cultural activities on non-freehold land, such as national parks and crown land.

The right to access, move about and traverse.
The right to camp and erect temporary shelters but not to permanently camp or occupy.
The right to hunt and fish for non-commercial purposes.
The right to access and use natural water resources for non-commercial purposes.
The right to gather, share and exchange natural resources for non-commercial purposes.
The right to conduct and participate in ceremonial, ritual and spiritual activities.
The right to maintain and protect places of importance under traditional laws and customs.
The right to transmit traditional knowledge to members of the native title claim group
The right to hold meetings."

It doesn't mean they own it - and it doesn't mean they can stop anyone else from using it.

They can fkk off.

I can't say I am unsympathetic towards that sntiment.

People who do FARKALL to help/change themselves but constantly shout about how everyone else should do something about them do give me the pip. Learned helplessness - stick it up yer loincloth.
Third world 'diverse' people, Aborigines, blue haired activist gluing themselves to stuff, and all the rest of the special pleading/bleating 'look at moi' types - here's two words for you.

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Re: Native title granted to Widjabul Wia-bal people
Reply #141 - Dec 28^th, 2022 at 8:27pm

Frank wrote on Dec 28^th, 2022 at 8:17pm:

Johnnie wrote on Dec 28^th, 2022 at 7:36pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 28^th, 2022 at 6:42pm:

"The decision means Widjabul Wia-bal traditional owners now have the rights to carry out a number of cultural activities on non-freehold land, such as national parks and crown land.

The right to access, move about and traverse.
The right to camp and erect temporary shelters but not to permanently camp or occupy.
The right to hunt and fish for non-commercial purposes.
The right to access and use natural water resources for non-commercial purposes.
The right to gather, share and exchange natural resources for non-commercial purposes.
The right to conduct and participate in ceremonial, ritual and spiritual activities.
The right to maintain and protect places of importance under traditional laws and customs.
The right to transmit traditional knowledge to members of the native title claim group
The right to hold meetings."

It doesn't mean they own it - and it doesn't mean they can stop anyone else from using it.

They can fkk off.

I can't say I am unsympathetic towards that sntiment.

People who do FARKALL to help/change themselves but constantly shout about how everyone else should do something about them do give me the pip. Learned helplessness - stick it up yer loincloth.
Third world 'diverse' people, Aborigines, blue haired activist gluing themselves to stuff, and all the rest of the special pleading/bleating 'look at moi' types - here's two words for you.

The Boongs wouldn't know what day of the week it was, the Widjabul Wia-bal people, that cracks me up, fkkn hilarious.

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Reply #142 - Dec 28^th, 2022 at 8:27pm

what is interesting about native title is that we are told the indigenous way of dealing with the land was that you couldnt own the land, the land owned you.

it was seen as a backward capitalist step for people to build a fort or a walled community and keep others out.

and now the leftie do-gooders, the bwians , seem to be celebrating the fact they have converted aboriginal ideas of non ownership and sharing to western capitalist ideas of walls and fences and boundaries and this is MINE.

what a strange hypocrite bwian is Cry

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Reply #143 - Dec 28^th, 2022 at 8:30pm

From an Indigenous perspective, land is not something that is earned by a few, it belongs to everybody or, more accurately, we belong to it. Aunty Munya explains, “Many Indigenous peoples the world over generally do not believe that anyone or anything can be 'owned', especially the land.”

aunty munya thinks we are all welcome on her turf
why does bwian not agree
time to crack out the bushwalking gear and head up mt warning
aunty invited me

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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: Native title granted to Widjabul Wia-bal people Reply #144 - Dec 28^th, 2022 at 8:37pm The Boongs can fkk off, they have proven their worth which is fkk all, they are not known as working people, they are fkkn bludgers and can go and get fkkd, just fkk off.
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Reply #145 - Dec 28^th, 2022 at 8:46pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 28^th, 2022 at 8:27pm:

what is interesting about native title is that we are told the indigenous way of dealing with the land was that you couldnt own the land, the land owned you.

it was seen as a backward capitalist step for people to build a fort or a walled community and keep others out.

and now the leftie do-gooders, the bwians , seem to be celebrating the fact they have converted aboriginal ideas of non ownership and sharing to western capitalist ideas of walls and fences and boundaries and this is MINE.

what a strange hypocrite bwian is Cry

This is a significant point. A farmer feels exactly the same way. A stalwart of a local town, community, feels exactly the same way.

Europeans have as much attachment to where they toil, work, bring up children, cultivate land and raise livestock as Aborigines, even more because they have material evidence to point to to prove their attachment.

Some Aborigines have a deep spirit link to a particular locale the same way. A farmer whose great grandfather cleared the land feels the same attachment. THAT is a recognised link while Rainbow Serpent mythology isn't WHEN IT IS USED FOR MATERIAL GAIN from the riches he farmer has created.

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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: Native title granted to Widjabul Wia-bal people Reply #146 - Dec 28^th, 2022 at 9:26pm The Widjabul Wia-bal people, surely this is a joke, the Wanker Canibal people.
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Boris Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3980 Gender:	Re: Native title granted to Widjabul Wia-bal people Reply #147 - Dec 29^th, 2022 at 1:06pm So superior and wonderful Culture https://twitter.com/StudLeeMD/status/1604713698828095491
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Re: Native title granted to Widjabul Wia-bal people
Reply #148 - Dec 29^th, 2022 at 1:57pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 28^th, 2022 at 8:27pm:

what is interesting about native title is that we are told the indigenous way of dealing with the land was that you couldnt own the land, the land owned you.

it was seen as a backward capitalist step for people to build a fort or a walled community and keep others out.

and now the leftie do-gooders, the bwians , seem to be celebrating the fact they have converted aboriginal ideas of non ownership and sharing to western capitalist ideas of walls and fences and boundaries and this is MINE.

what a strange hypocrite bwian is Cry

Yes he certainly is .... & that's exactly what they are doing.

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Re: Native title granted to Widjabul Wia-bal people
Reply #149 - Dec 29^th, 2022 at 2:02pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 28^th, 2022 at 8:27pm:

and now the leftie do-gooders, the bwians , seem to be celebrating the fact they have converted aboriginal ideas of non ownership and sharing to western capitalist ideas of walls and fences and boundaries and this is MINE.

Gee, is anyone else surprised that horse boy is crying because the aborigines use a system we forced on them to their advantage? Cheesy

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