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Re: Native title granted to Widjabul Wia-bal people
Reply #105 - Dec 26th, 2022 at 3:25pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 3:12pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 2:50pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 2:25pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 25th, 2022 at 12:23pm:
So hiding behind the past is a good excuse to promote the Libertarian fraud on the collective.

Note: technological advance  has eliminated scarcity,  so you can let go of the self-interested  Libertarian every man for himself system, and replace it with well-being and security for all.   Wake up.   

....

(the highlighted) Obsolete concept; now we have the productive capacity to  attain wellbeing and security for all not 49% or any other figure less than 100%.

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Like I said, history; and your delusional Libertarian  every man for himself ideology is STILL complicit in the current Ukraine war which should have been prevented by the UNSC....except the obsolete concept of national sovereignty means Putin could go in, citing "national security". 
Insane, going to war with inestimable costs to life and property - for "national security". 




This is just more idiotic psittacism, parrot.


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When was the last time that 'every man for himself' was the system?

Have you not heard the term 'welfare state', parrot?  Here, gedditintaya: https://www.britannica.com/topic/welfare-state


Please keep abreast of the times: the Keynesian 'welfare state' (1946 -1970s) was dismantled by foolish supply- side neoliberal economic theorists  like Milton Friedman, from the 80s on.





Complete bollocks. Welfare spending as a percent of GDP has been growing relentlessly and covers more and more areas of life. To say that it was dismantled in the 1970s is just stupid.



er... the nations' stock of public housing has been steadily reducing since the 80s, owing to erroneous  neoliberal theories re government spending, deficits and debt - which required governments to decrease public spending in order to balance budgets.

Now of course the govt. is faced with a housing crisis which will require increasing the quantum of social housing. 

Ditto for other areas of public spending.

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Again, stupid nonsense endlessly parroted.



You forgot to say why.... obviously national sovereignty is incompatible with international law which would outlaw war as a means of dispute settlement between nations.
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Re: Native title granted to Widjabul Wia-bal people
Reply #106 - Dec 26th, 2022 at 4:04pm
 
The welfare state is not merely about social housing, parrot.

As for national sovereignty - your 'ideas' on this topic, and UNSC, are even more garbled and self-contradictory than on the welfare state and 'common prosperity.

United NATIONS. See that second word?  InterNATIONAL law? See the root word?? Dispute between NATIONS? 'ello, 'ello, 'ello, whatsis then? Is that another NATION I see before me?


Which NATION/S would enforce the rule against war? By what means? Arms? That would be....er...... more war. By head tilting and tut-tutting Bbwianesquely? That's the UN now. Subjugating everyone to China and their internationalised "common prosperity" hegemony? Bingo! yes, that's your aim and of Xi Who Must Be Obeyed.

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Re: Native title granted to Widjabul Wia-bal people
Reply #107 - Dec 26th, 2022 at 5:41pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 4:04pm:
The welfare state is not merely about social housing, parrot.

As for national sovereignty - your 'ideas' on this topic, and UNSC, are even more garbled and self-contradictory than on the welfare state and 'common prosperity.

United NATIONS. See that second word?  InterNATIONAL law? See the root word?? Dispute between NATIONS? 'ello, 'ello, 'ello, whatsis then? Is that another NATION I see before me?


Which NATION/S would enforce the rule against war? By what means? Arms? That would be....er...... more war. By head tilting and tut-tutting Bbwianesquely? That's the UN now. Subjugating everyone to China and their internationalised "common prosperity" hegemony? Bingo! yes, that's your aim and of Xi Who Must Be Obeyed.



These have all been explained to him time and time again.  Liked the simple concept that laws themselves must governed by law and are not just open-ended dependent solely on the vote of a group of people. Citing examples of wrongful laws that have resulted in the deaths of countless millions does not impact on him at all, and it is clear that he will never arrive at the safe conclusion that since governments have always been the greatest killers of their own and of others, it follows that a UN 'government' would be the same.

The reality that controlling war means using war escapes him utterly.... explained to him months ago and still he goes on.
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Reply #108 - Dec 27th, 2022 at 9:50am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 4:04pm:
The welfare state is not merely about social housing, parrot.


That's right; it's about other areas of government spending as well, like education and health, all of which are under-funded in the neoliberal era, eg GPs are increasingly abandoning bulk billing because neoliberal economics means the govt. can't properly fund Medicare;  and TAFE was defunded, meaning the country could rely on trained workers from overseas; and the CES was sidelined in favour of private employment agencies which just churn the unemployed without placing them in employment.   

But we do have a housing crisis, courtesy of neoliberal economics, dummy. 

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As for national sovereignty - your 'ideas' on this topic, and UNSC, are even more garbled and self-contradictory than on the welfare state and 'common prosperity.


ok...waiting for your elucidation....

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United NATIONS. See that second word?  InterNATIONAL law? See the root word?? Dispute between NATIONS? 'ello, 'ello, 'ello, whatsis then? Is that another NATION I see before me?


Indeed it is, and if all nations are to be free from poverty and international war, all nations will need to submit to rule of international law (just as citizens must submit to national law).

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Which NATION/S would enforce the rule against war?


A UNSC whose members were bound by a majority vote of the UNGA and UNSC, just as the law of a nation is decided by majority vote in the supreme court.

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By what means? Arms?


The UNSC has 99% of the world's military force, which if deployed by a majority UNSC vote, is obviously irresistible. Hence the UNSC could guarantee security for all nations, enabling a general disarmament. 


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That would be....er...... more war.


Wrong, as addressed above, it would be a general disarmament among nations who would only need to maintain police forces for internal security, not militaries for external security.

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By head tilting and tut-tutting Bbwianesquely? That's the UN now.


It's certainly the UN now...

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to  Subjugating everyone to China and their internationalised "common prosperity" hegemony? Bingo! yes, that's your aim and of Xi Who Must Be Obeyed.


Nonsense.

The US is hoping to provoke war in China, to prevent China's economy from growing bigger than the US. 

Indeed if I were Xi, I would be pressing to get rid of the veto in the UNSC, because the US is obviously hell-bent on making Taiwan a state of the US, armed to the teeth against the mainland, as part of its China containment policy.

Kissinger has hightlighted the danger for the world....


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Re: Native title granted to Widjabul Wia-bal people
Reply #109 - Dec 27th, 2022 at 10:16am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 5:41pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 26th, 2022 at 4:04pm:
The welfare state is not merely about social housing, parrot.

As for national sovereignty - your 'ideas' on this topic, and UNSC, are even more garbled and self-contradictory than on the welfare state and 'common prosperity.

United NATIONS. See that second word?  InterNATIONAL law? See the root word?? Dispute between NATIONS? 'ello, 'ello, 'ello, whatsis then? Is that another NATION I see before me?


Which NATION/S would enforce the rule against war? By what means? Arms? That would be....er...... more war. By head tilting and tut-tutting Bbwianesquely? That's the UN now. Subjugating everyone to China and their internationalised "common prosperity" hegemony? Bingo! yes, that's your aim and of Xi Who Must Be Obeyed.



These have all been explained to him time and time again. 


And succinctly answered  again,  in the previous post.

Of course, preference for war - in the name of 'national sovereignty' - will be a hindrance to establishing international law and eradicating war as a means of dispute settlement between nations. 


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Liked the simple concept that laws themselves must governed by law and are not just open-ended dependent solely on the vote of a group of people. Citing examples of wrongful laws that have resulted in the deaths of countless millions does not impact on him at all, and it is clear that he will never arrive at the safe conclusion that since governments have always been the greatest killers of their own and of others, it follows that a UN 'government' would be the same.


it doesn't follow at all.

What does remain the same is your delusional natural  rights/  "freedom values" ideology which through education can change.

As noted in another thread, to which Frank failed to reply, the idea that natural "rights" are inherent in human nature rather than in created law, is obvious nonsense, because those "rights" have to be defined - in law!. 

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The reality that controlling war means using war escapes him utterly.... explained to him months ago and still he goes on.



See how your delusional Libertarian "rights" ideology inverts your thinking into madness: war is the continuing reality NOW.

We need to engender peace, not by "controlling war", but by outlawing it in a scenario of general disarmament, with national security guaranteed by the UN security council, as per majority vote of the UNGA and UNSC, in support of the UNUDHR. 
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Re: Native title granted to Widjabul Wia-bal people
Reply #110 - Dec 27th, 2022 at 11:00am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 27th, 2022 at 9:50am:
Indeed it is, and if all nations are to be free from poverty and international war, all nations will need to submit to rule of international law (just as citizens must submit to national law).

....

A UNSC whose members were bound by a majority vote of the UNGA and UNSC, just as the law of a nation is decided by majority vote in the supreme court.
......

The UNSC has 99% of the world's military force, which if deployed by a majority UNSC vote, is obviously irresistible. Hence the UNSC could guarantee security for all nations, enabling a general disarmament. 


....

Wrong, as addressed above, it would be a general disarmament among nations who would only need to maintain police forces for internal security, not militaries for external security.

....

The US is hoping to provoke war in China, to prevent China's economy from growing bigger than the US. 

Indeed if I were Xi, I would be pressing to get rid of the veto in the UNSC, because the US is obviously hell-bent on making Taiwan a state of the US, armed to the teeth against the mainland, as part of its China containment policy.



Laughable idiocy. You live in a 5 year old's naive fantasy toy world, parrot.



Who is going to finance the militaries of 5 powers of the UNSC? Those 5 countries or the whole world? How will costs be shared? What happens if someone outside of the 5 powers wants to be a soldier or marine or airmen? Excluded?
Who will command them? Who will decide deployment - the 5 or all UN members? What happens if they disagree (as now)? Would all countries, from Iran to Pakistan, North Korea to Venezuela submit?

What happens about countries internally monstering their own people, from China to Iran?




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Reply #111 - Dec 27th, 2022 at 11:09am
 
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Reply #112 - Dec 27th, 2022 at 11:20am
 
Well as long as it's only native title to do some things they can already do, there is no problem until someone starts one.

"The decision means Widjabul Wia-bal traditional owners now have the rights to carry out a number of cultural activities on non-freehold land, such as national parks and crown land.

    The right to access, move about and traverse.
    The right to camp and erect temporary shelters but not to permanently camp or occupy.
    The right to hunt and fish for non-commercial purposes.
    The right to access and use natural water resources for non-commercial purposes.
    The right to gather, share and exchange natural resources  for non-commercial purposes.
    The right to conduct and participate in ceremonial, ritual and spiritual activities. 
    The right to maintain and protect places of importance under traditional laws and customs.
    The right to transmit traditional knowledge to members of the native title claim group
    The right to hold meetings.
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Now if anyone can tell me which of those they did not already have, I'm all ears..... in a sense this is an insult to those local Aborigines by pulling the wool over their eyes with some false dream that they now own that land.

Again - the only problem with this will be when some decide that they do own it totally, and start a campaign of violence and intimidation to keep others out and abuse their rights to free use of national parks and crown land, or start to block off relevant paths etc on some fake religious grounds, or demand fees for entry when they do not own the land.

Of course, none of this will stop them being lauded as 'the victims' in the idiotic media despite the reality that it will be they doing the attacking and such. You've seen what happened at Mt Warning, swept under the carpet by a lying state government, with people rightfully visiting their national park having their cars vandalised over a period of five years.. amidst a heap of jumping up and down and wailing by the local Aborigines over 'their rights' which are really privileges.

Here's my message to the softcock Perrotet - history will absolve me...... it will certainly hang you .... and all the troubles will be on your hands and those of your Labor mates.
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Reply #113 - Dec 27th, 2022 at 11:25am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 27th, 2022 at 11:00am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 27th, 2022 at 9:50am:
Indeed it is, and if all nations are to be free from poverty and international war, all nations will need to submit to rule of international law (just as citizens must submit to national law).

....

A UNSC whose members were bound by a majority vote of the UNGA and UNSC, just as the law of a nation is decided by majority vote in the supreme court.
......

The UNSC has 99% of the world's military force, which if deployed by a majority UNSC vote, is obviously irresistible. Hence the UNSC could guarantee security for all nations, enabling a general disarmament. 


....

Wrong, as addressed above, it would be a general disarmament among nations who would only need to maintain police forces for internal security, not militaries for external security.

....

The US is hoping to provoke war in China, to prevent China's economy from growing bigger than the US. 

Indeed if I were Xi, I would be pressing to get rid of the veto in the UNSC, because the US is obviously hell-bent on making Taiwan a state of the US, armed to the teeth against the mainland, as part of its China containment policy.



Laughable idiocy. You live in a 5 year old's naive fantasy toy world, parrot.



Who is going to finance the militaries of 5 powers of the UNSC? Those 5 countries or the whole world? How will costs be shared? What happens if someone outside of the 5 powers wants to be a soldier or marine or airmen? Excluded?
Who will command them? Who will decide deployment - the 5 or all UN members? What happens if they disagree (as now)? Would all countries, from Iran to Pakistan, North Korea to Venezuela submit?

What happens about countries internally monstering their own people, from China to Iran?







All laid out for him months ago - look at his answer below this one of yours.  He simply will not engage with any realities, nor will he stick to the subject but just races off on his pet dream.

Love that arbitrary phrase for anyone with a differing view - 'an ideologue with a preference for war' - total lunacy.

Now try the issue of this purported handover of OUR lands to a small group of alleged local Indigenous....  keep your UN fantasies for the appropriate strand and stop interfering with the free flow of discussion in matters relating to our Indigenous ....
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Reply #114 - Dec 27th, 2022 at 11:28am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 27th, 2022 at 11:20am:
Well as long as it's only native title to do some things they can already do, there is no problem until someone starts one.

"The decision means Widjabul Wia-bal traditional owners now have the rights to carry out a number of cultural activities on non-freehold land, such as national parks and crown land.

    The right to access, move about and traverse.
    The right to camp and erect temporary shelters but not to permanently camp or occupy.
    The right to hunt and fish for non-commercial purposes.
    The right to access and use natural water resources for non-commercial purposes.
    The right to gather, share and exchange natural resources  for non-commercial purposes.
    The right to conduct and participate in ceremonial, ritual and spiritual activities. 
    The right to maintain and protect places of importance under traditional laws and customs.
    The right to transmit traditional knowledge to members of the native title claim group
    The right to hold meetings.
"


Now if anyone can tell me which of those they did not already have, I'm all ears..... in a sense this is an insult to those local Aborigines by pulling the wool over their eyes with some false dream that they now own that land.

Again - the only problem with this will be when some decide that they do own it totally, and start a campaign of violence and intimidation to keep others out and abuse their rights to free use of national parks and crown land, or start to block off relevant paths etc on some fake religious grounds, or demand fees for entry when they do not own the land.

Of course, none of this will stop them being lauded as 'the victims' in the idiotic media despite the reality that it will be they doing the attacking and such. You've seen what happened at Mt Warning, swept under the carpet by a lying state government, with people rightfully visiting their national park having their cars vandalised over a period of five years.. amidst a heap of jumping up and down and wailing by the local Aborigines over 'their rights' which are really privileges.

Here's my message to the softcock Perrotet - history will absolve me...... it will certainly hang you .... and all the troubles will be on your hands and those of your Labor mates.

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Reply #115 - Dec 27th, 2022 at 12:11pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 27th, 2022 at 11:00am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 27th, 2022 at 9:50am:
Indeed it is, and if all nations are to be free from poverty and international war, all nations will need to submit to rule of international law (just as citizens must submit to national law).

....

A UNSC whose members were bound by a majority vote of the UNGA and UNSC, just as the law of a nation is decided by majority vote in the supreme court.
......

The UNSC has 99% of the world's military force, which if deployed by a majority UNSC vote, is obviously irresistible. Hence the UNSC could guarantee security for all nations, enabling a general disarmament. 


....

Wrong, as addressed above, it would be a general disarmament among nations who would only need to maintain police forces for internal security, not militaries for external security.

....

The US is hoping to provoke war in China, to prevent China's economy from growing bigger than the US. 

Indeed if I were Xi, I would be pressing to get rid of the veto in the UNSC, because the US is obviously hell-bent on making Taiwan a state of the US, armed to the teeth against the mainland, as part of its China containment policy.



Laughable idiocy. You live in a 5 year old's naive fantasy toy world, parrot.


The usual...let's read on.

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Who is going to finance the militaries of 5 powers of the UNSC? Those 5 countries or the whole world? How will costs be shared?


The five countries plus Japan and Germany rounding out the 7 most powerful/richest economies in the world - plus Russia's nuclear arsenal (indeed the UNSC should be enlarged with membership of these two). 


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What happens if someone outside of the 5 powers wants to be a soldier or marine or airmen? Excluded?


Occupations come and go all the time.

How about a career in the national civilian police force instead?

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Who will command them?


Similar to any coalition command.

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Who will decide deployment - the 5 or all UN members?


The 5 (or better, seven as noted above), carrying out the voted policy (the "voice"!) of the UNGA,  and the UNSC members (without veto).  

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  What happens if they disagree (as now)? Would all countries, from Iran to Pakistan, North Korea to Venezuela submit?


All  nations are presently signed up to the UN Charter,  the problem is the UNSC can't guarantee security for any one nation. If the UNSC could guarantee external security, why would you not submit to international law?

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What happens about countries internally monstering their own people, from China to Iran?


The general disarmament I referred to would deprive nations of the military means to "monster their own people", like Myanmar.

Where other countries' governments depart from the principles of the UNUDHR, the civilian police force would be quickly overwhelmed by a UN military contingent.

Eg in Afghanistan and Iran, where in fact half the population (ie female) IS calling for UN intervention into their rogue governments. 

Note: re-education camps in Xinjiang camps do NOT violate the UNUDHR, that's just opportunistic Western ideology/propaganda; the US is only too willing to bomb Muslims when it sees fit, China prefers reeducation of its own fundamentalist separatist terrorists.

Conclusion: it's time...in the age of MAD -  to outlaw war as a means of dispute settlement between nations.





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Reply #116 - Dec 27th, 2022 at 3:03pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 4:34pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 8:55am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:18pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 9:50am:
Neither do I. You've had too much salt air ... it's crystalising between your ears.



Sure you are. You  and others are here crying because you can't clink Mt warning and others can ... boo hoo


Only part of those "others" can ... not all of them.

You've forgotton all about secret mens & secret womens business haven't you?

Don't you think part of those others are being mysogynistic/partriarchal oppressors?


so you agree now that you were crying about it
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Reply #117 - Dec 27th, 2022 at 3:23pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 27th, 2022 at 12:11pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 27th, 2022 at 11:00am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 27th, 2022 at 9:50am:
Indeed it is, and if all nations are to be free from poverty and international war, all nations will need to submit to rule of international law (just as citizens must submit to national law).

....

A UNSC whose members were bound by a majority vote of the UNGA and UNSC, just as the law of a nation is decided by majority vote in the supreme court.
......

The UNSC has 99% of the world's military force, which if deployed by a majority UNSC vote, is obviously irresistible. Hence the UNSC could guarantee security for all nations, enabling a general disarmament. 


....

Wrong, as addressed above, it would be a general disarmament among nations who would only need to maintain police forces for internal security, not militaries for external security.

....

The US is hoping to provoke war in China, to prevent China's economy from growing bigger than the US. 

Indeed if I were Xi, I would be pressing to get rid of the veto in the UNSC, because the US is obviously hell-bent on making Taiwan a state of the US, armed to the teeth against the mainland, as part of its China containment policy.



Laughable idiocy. You live in a 5 year old's naive fantasy toy world, parrot.


The usual...let's read on.

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Who is going to finance the militaries of 5 powers of the UNSC? Those 5 countries or the whole world? How will costs be shared?


The five countries plus Japan and Germany rounding out the 7 most powerful/richest economies in the world - plus Russia's nuclear arsenal (indeed the UNSC should be enlarged with membership of these two). 


Quote:
What happens if someone outside of the 5 powers wants to be a soldier or marine or airmen? Excluded?


Occupations come and go all the time.

How about a career in the national civilian police force instead?

Quote:
Who will command them?


Similar to any coalition command.

Quote:
Who will decide deployment - the 5 or all UN members?


The 5 (or better, seven as noted above), carrying out the voted policy (the "voice"!) of the UNGA,  and the UNSC members (without veto).  

Quote:
  What happens if they disagree (as now)? Would all countries, from Iran to Pakistan, North Korea to Venezuela submit?


All  nations are presently signed up to the UN Charter,  the problem is the UNSC can't guarantee security for any one nation. If the UNSC could guarantee external security, why would you not submit to international law?

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What happens about countries internally monstering their own people, from China to Iran?


The general disarmament I referred to would deprive nations of the military means to "monster their own people", like Myanmar.

Where other countries' governments depart from the principles of the UNUDHR, the civilian police force would be quickly overwhelmed by a UN military contingent.

Eg in Afghanistan and Iran, where in fact half the population (ie female) IS calling for UN intervention into their rogue governments. 

Note: re-education camps in Xinjiang camps do NOT violate the UNUDHR, that's just opportunistic Western ideology/propaganda; the US is only too willing to bomb Muslims when it sees fit, China prefers reeducation of its own fundamentalist separatist terrorists.

Conclusion: it's time...in the age of MAD -  to outlaw war as a means of dispute settlement between nations.


"Laughable, pre-adolescent jumbled fantasy bollocks" is correct.
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Re: Native title granted to Widjabul Wia-bal people
Reply #118 - Dec 27th, 2022 at 5:07pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 27th, 2022 at 3:03pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 4:34pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 23rd, 2022 at 8:55am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 3:18pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 9:50am:
Neither do I. You've had too much salt air ... it's crystalising between your ears.



Sure you are. You  and others are here crying because you can't clink Mt warning and others can ... boo hoo


Only part of those "others" can ... not all of them.

You've forgotton all about secret mens & secret womens business haven't you?

Don't you think part of those others are being mysogynistic/partriarchal oppressors?


so you agree now that you were crying about it
Cheesy


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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Re: Native title granted to Widjabul Wia-bal people
Reply #119 - Dec 27th, 2022 at 6:44pm
 
Well - the way I see it - is if we are having Labor and Liberal in lockstep designer social engineering serious problems for future generations and murdering our country around us and trying to force us into 'equality' with the lowest third worlder ... We, the People should just maybe talk about it a bit first....... instead of being without a Voice!!!

Now then - that dopey Papadopoulos sheila down Melbadishu way... you don't want to do citizenship ceremonies on Australia Day - pack your bags  and p
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ss off back to Greece where you can be a second class citizen....... that dopey Paki sheila in Parliament - you don't love this joint pack your bags and p
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ss off back to Pakistan where you can be properly oppressed and have no rights.... we don't have time for your utter stupidity.....  anyone else want to join in the Hate Australia parade?

Nah then - about those immigration policies .................. and what we really want and need here .... let the AUSTRALIAN people decide before it's too late and they end up like the British - out-numbered in their own country...

Truly never in the field of human conflict has so much been owed by so many to so few - for bringing on the conflict.

Drain the Swamps - take back the asylum..... take out the dead wood... Voice to The People NOW!!
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