The Abbos can fkk off, everybody has to pull their own weight but they just sit on their fkkn arses in the dirt with their hands out drinking VB, fkkn bludgers.

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 25^th, 2022 at 11:29am:


Ah ..... no they don't .............. and if a nation (gasps - distant thunder) using its sovereign right (double thunder), CHOOSES to do so - they must use those equally and fairly and not in pursuit of certain.... supremacist dogmas...

See how the argument against sovereign rights falls down time after time?  And NO law or principle is perfect - so perfect that it cannot be perverted to the mindset of any ruling party ... as history so clearly shows us time and time again... the greatest good for the greatest number can lead to 49% deaths....... (Hint - where does that figure come from?) .... ten million in Ukraine 1930's...a third plus of Cambodia's population .... fifty million in China .... countless millions in Russia... many millions worldwide in two world wars ..... all done for the 'greater good' .... just a fair go for the people as a whole, no??

I warned yez already - when it comes to politicians - beware of freaks bearing grift.... they have zero compulsion or remorse or conscience about installing some 'little thing' to suit some tiny minority of whingers - it's only a little thing, just a fair go, what are you so afraid of and crying about?.... no matter what it costs countless others.... and as I warned yez about the steady erosion of Rights (as opposed to those demands for privileges often titled 'rights') ... each is a part of the continent, a portion of the whole.... and each is interwoven .... the removal of tiny piece after tiny piece leads to the Downfall of the entire edifice.....

Nah then - about my Right to free use of MY national parks ................................... fail to put your fingers in that dyke and all falls down.... as a society we've been asleep at the wheel while march after march was stolen on us - imagining, as good people do, that those stealing marches wouldn't do us harm since we would  do none to them........ and by the time you wake up, the barbarians are inside the walls....

Read a thing on Twitter last night - someone else has woken to the fact that the ideologues, the Accredited Victims/Stakeholders (but never by any means all stakeholders), of all kinds, with their 'new science' etc - always gain a march on everyone else.... and it is then an uphill fight - the Western Front Allies mired in the mud while the ideologues hold the high ground - to restore the old borders of simple sanity ..

Blind if you can't see that.. adhere to the UN?  Are you joking?  Every argument you've put forward for that is in the dustbin... down the tubes.. gone, cremated and buried..... only a fool would adhere to the UN and be at the mercy of every pissy tribal group on earth....  BTW - national sovereignty, in case after case in Darkest Africa, lead to the UN dithering over whether or not to intervene to stop genocide etc... sovereign nations often stepped in first... Britain, France... you know the drift....

Nah then - about those twisted immigration policies...... just look at Britain now and weep ..... they fcked it ....

Let's try a job guarantee ............. they won't need to grasp for fcking land then, eh?

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 25^th, 2022 at 1:58pm:


exactly, but a re-education process for the 'cultural warriors' on all sides will be necessary as well, obviously.

There is no "right" to ownership of land, only a requirement  for decent affordable housing for all....private or public, doesn't matter. 

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 25^th, 2022 at 2:02pm:
 

I demonstrably addressed all your arguments raised (quoted in full), one by one. That you can't refute my arguments as presented is the issue here.


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That's what I said: Putin went into Ukraine, because the UNSC - with its separate veto powers - is incapable of preventing him from going in. So now we have a proxy war of attrition between the US and Russia, with the Ukrainians as cannon fodder. (Russia will lose of course, because the US is 15 times the size of the Russian economy, while the Ukraine is being pummelled).

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Er ...European colonialization was established before the UN; and as stated, the UNSC was powerless to keep the peace, because dismantling colonialism often involved proxy wars between the US and USSR, or lack of interest in funding the costs of successful de-colonialization (the colonizer just can't walk away without managing change of ownership of land and businesses).   

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You mean get into "real politics" ...with its unending wars and entrenched poverty?   

Re the Simba rebellion, the first in your linked article:

" The Simba rebellion, also known as the Orientale revolt,[9] was a regional uprising which took place in the Democratic Republic of the Congo between 1963 and 1965 in the wider context of the Congo Crisis and the Cold War"

"Mad Mike Hoare"....  a born murderer, or at least an opportunist making a quick quid out of tribal conflict...and geopolitical proxy conflict between 2 members of the UN "Security" (sic) Council itself...

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 26^th, 2022 at 1:30pm:


That's not debate; you can't decide the "score" - like the fox in charge of the henhouse; you need to refute the arguments, not merely claim "slippery as an eel" 

Frank wrote on Dec 26^th, 2022 at 2:25pm:


pass

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Please keep abreast of the times: the Keynesian 'welfare state' (1946 -1970s) was dismantled by foolish supply- side neoliberal economic theorists  like Milton Friedman, from the 80s on.

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You prefer war to peace, like those "national sovereignty" f**wit ideologues who forced the veto onto the UNSC in 1946. 

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 26^th, 2022 at 2:50pm:



Complete bollocks. Welfare spending as a percent of GDP has been growing relentlessly and covers more and more areas of life. To say that it was dismantled in the 1970s is just stupid.

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Again, stupid nonsense endlessly parroted.