Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 1^st, 2023 at 2:35pm:


Sounds like the ignorant fundamentalist Christian mob in Alexandria who murdered and mutilated Hypatia in 4th century Alexandria (a centre of classical learning,  500 years before the Golden Age of Islam)

The mob always flourish alongside the enlightened and educated,  even in the 'Golden Age' of a given culture.    

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...working under the banner of Islam which conquered  much of the world from Spain to Afghanistan,  within 2 centuries after Muhammad's death. 

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Gosh, look where your over-hyped argument - based on an 'atheism' versus belief strawman -   has led you. Of course vigorous cultures  create free thinkers, especially during a 'Golden Age'. 

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More misdirected argument from you, the beautiful Islamic architecture in Moorish Spain and the ME was created by a vigorous  Islamic culture, regardless of Avicenna's religious beliefs.   

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Irrelevant, and addressed above; and btw Jews, Christians and Muslims existed side by side for centuries in Moorish Spain, before the Reconqista - despite occasional social unrest caused by "deplorables"....

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Nonsense. The mob - 95% of the population - were all committed to the Koran....just as Spinoza was a rarity,  in the Dutch Golden Age.

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 1^st, 2023 at 12:51pm:


I think you are making it up as you go along and you have no idea what you are talking about. The Quran and Hadiths are full of references to killing Jews in particular, because Muhammad found them harder to convert, and was angry at them for not realising that he was already their messiah.

One of the most influential pieces of modern anti-Semitism is the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a forged document that emerged from Imperial Russia in 1903. This document popularised the conspiracy theory that Jews were engaged in worldwide control. Hitler referred to the Protocols in Mein Kampf and this conspiracy theory became part of the broader Nazi propaganda campaign.

Yet while the Nazis were defeated in 1945, the Protocols did not die with them. The Soviets repurposed the Protocol’s conspiracy theories in their own propaganda during the Cold War, which ramped up after Israel’s victory in the Six-Day War. In order to signal support to Egypt and Syria (who had lost the war) anti-Zionist propaganda became part of the Soviet’s broader Cold War strategy. This strategy aimed to push back against the US and strengthen Soviet influence in the Middle East.

Izabella Tabarovsky, a scholar of Soviet Jewry, writes that the Soviets took Nazi propaganda and simply substituted the word “Zionist” in place of “Jew”. She explains: “Soviet ideologues relied for inspiration on the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, on the ideas of classic religious anti-Semitism, and even Mein Kampf, but adapted them to the Marxist framework by substituting the idea of a global anti-Soviet Zionist conspiracy for a specifically Jewish one.”

Such propaganda spread through multiple channels. In the ’60s and ’70s, newspapers such as Pravda published cartoons that were then reprinted by communist-aligned media in the West.

Tabarovsky points out that the Soviets were well aware Europeans were particularly sensitive to accusations of racism, and of anything associated with Nazi Germany – so they cynically used this against Israel by equating Zionism with Nazism. Soviet cartoons of the ’70s depict Jews looking into mirrors only to be greeted with reflections of Hitler, and Stars of David superimposed over swastikas.

In 1975, a UN General Assembly resolution was passed that declared “Zionism is Racism”. The controversial resolution was passed only with support of the Soviet bloc, Arab states and various African nations (it was overturned in 1991). Michael Heller and Aleksandr M. Nekrich, historians of the Soviet Union, argue this resolution was one of the Soviets’ “greatest victories”.

It was a victory because it successfully decoupled the demonisation of the Jewish people from associations with the far right. As Quillette editor Jamie Palmer wrote in 2016: “The claims that Zionism is racism, the instrument or puppeteer of Jewish and American imperialists, a project of Western colonialism, or a template for Jewish world domination; that Zionists were co-conspirators and ideological ancestors of Nazi Germany who control markets, industry, and media, and; that Israel is a ‘terrorist regime’ – all such claims originated in Soviet propaganda and are widespread on today’s activist left.”

The Left has never grappled with its own history of anti-Semitism and is ill-equipped to deal with it when it arises.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/new-wave-of-antisemitism-rolls-in-fr...

Frank wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 8:44am:


Just like the Nazis patterned their racist Nuremberg Laws on Jewish law.

wombatwoody wrote on Nov 29^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

Not at all.

Who is a Jew According to Halacha?
According to Jewish law, a child born to a Jewish mother or an adult who has converted to Judaism is considered a Jew; one does not have to reaffirm their Jewishness or practice any of the laws of the Torah to be Jewish. According to Reform Judaism, a person is a Jew if they were born to either a Jewish mother or a Jewish father. Also, Reform Judaism stresses the importance of being raised Jewish; if a child is born to Jewish parents and was not raised Jewish then the child is not considered Jewish. According to the Orthodox movement, the father’s religion and whether the person practices is immaterial. No affirmation or upbringing is needed if the mother was Jewish.

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 1^st, 2023 at 7:46pm:

Nonsense.

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 4^th, 2023 at 8:57pm:

all of it:
how many jewish nobel prize winners are there for medicine? How many court physicians have been Jews over the centuries?
The German race laws were demonstrably nothing like the Jewish rules for recognising who is a jew, nor was their purpose similar in any way.