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Re: Zionism
Reply #480 - Apr 18th, 2023 at 8:42pm
 
FD, do you support - did you ever support  - UN res 181 and 242?

If 'No', can you explain why?

[Forgive me for asking questions, a 'debating technique' I have learned from you....]
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Re: Zionism
Reply #481 - Apr 20th, 2023 at 6:38pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 15th, 2023 at 9:26am:
wombatwoody wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:45am:
freediver wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:23am:
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So you cannot think. You cannot read books. But you can google a book review?


Do you know about The Nakba? Without doing a search?




Can you back up the claims you have made?



Can you show claims I haven't backed up?
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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

Benjamin Netanyahu, quoted in Ma’ariv, 16 April 2008
 
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Reply #482 - Apr 21st, 2023 at 3:12am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 9th, 2023 at 1:38pm:
Yes, revealing the ugly side of "the Chosen people"...


"Apart from the fixed daily prayers, a devout Jew must utter special short blessings on various occasions ... Some of these occasional prayers serve to inculcate hatred and scorn for all Gentiles ... (such as) the rule according to which a pious Jew must utter a curse when passing near a Gentile cemetery, whereas he must bless God when passing near a Jewish cemetery. A similar rule applies to the living; thus, when seeing a large Jewish population a devout Jew must praise God, while upon seeing a large Gentile population he must utter a curse. Nor are buildings exempt: the Talmud lays down that a Jew who passes near an inhabited non-Jewish dwelling must ask God to destroy it, whereas if the building is in ruins he must thank the Lord of Vengeance. (Naturally, the rules are reversed for Jewish houses.) ... the rule was further embroidered by custom: it became customary to spit (usually three times) upon seeing a church or a crucifix, as an embellishment to the obligatory formula of regret. Sometimes insulting biblical verses were also added."

Footnote to this text:

"This custom gave rise to many incidents in the history of European Jewry. One of the most famous, whose consequence is still visible today, occurred in 14th century Prague. King Charles IV of Bohemia (who was also Holy Roman Emperor) had a magnificent crucifix erected in the middle of a stone bridge which he had built and which still exists today. It was then reported to him that the Jews of Prague were in the habit of spitting whenever they passed the crucifix. Being a famous protector of the Jews, he did not institute persecution against them, but simply sentenced the Jewish community to pay for the Hebrew word Adonay (Lord) to be inscribed on the crucifix in golden letters. This word is one of the seven holiest names of God, and no mark of disrespect is allowed in front of it. The spitting ceased. "


- Prof. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years, Chapter Five: The Laws Against Non-Jews

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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

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Reply #483 - Apr 21st, 2023 at 6:30am
 
wombatwoody wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 6:38pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 15th, 2023 at 9:26am:
wombatwoody wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:45am:
freediver wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:23am:
Grin

So you cannot think. You cannot read books. But you can google a book review?


Do you know about The Nakba? Without doing a search?




Can you back up the claims you have made?



Can you show claims I haven't backed up?


wombatwoody wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:58pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 1:01pm:
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Unarmed Moslem villagers.


What makes you think that?


You wouldn't need to ask that if you read Mr.Pappe's book review posted earlier.

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Re: Zionism
Reply #484 - Apr 21st, 2023 at 4:59pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 21st, 2023 at 6:30am:
wombatwoody wrote on Apr 20th, 2023 at 6:38pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 15th, 2023 at 9:26am:
wombatwoody wrote on Mar 21st, 2023 at 5:45am:
freediver wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 7:23am:
Grin

So you cannot think. You cannot read books. But you can google a book review?


Do you know about The Nakba? Without doing a search?




Can you back up the claims you have made?



Can you show claims I haven't backed up?


wombatwoody wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:58pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 1:01pm:
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Unarmed Moslem villagers.


What makes you think that?


You wouldn't need to ask that if you read Mr.Pappe's book review posted earlier.




WTF are you on about?
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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

Benjamin Netanyahu, quoted in Ma’ariv, 16 April 2008
 
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Reply #485 - Apr 21st, 2023 at 8:21pm
 
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Reply #486 - Apr 21st, 2023 at 8:26pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 15th, 2023 at 9:26am:
Can you back up the claims you have made?


Claims of Israeli commando attacks on unarmed Moslem villegers in 1947/8?

See #467

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Reply #487 - Apr 22nd, 2023 at 7:58am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 12th, 2023 at 3:50pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 7:02pm:
Murdering who?


The majority Muslims.


You are full of crap.
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Reply #488 - Apr 22nd, 2023 at 8:25am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 7:58am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 12th, 2023 at 3:50pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 7:02pm:
Murdering who?


The majority Muslims.


You are full of crap.


Just reporting what I heard in the video; in 1947 Moslems were still a majority in the proposed Israeli state within the Palestine mandate.

And as reported  in #467, Israeli commandos murdered unarmed Moslem villagers in 1947/48.
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Reply #489 - Apr 22nd, 2023 at 10:42am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 8:25am:
freediver wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 7:58am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 12th, 2023 at 3:50pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 7:02pm:
Murdering who?


The majority Muslims.


You are full of crap.


Just reporting what I heard in the video; in 1947 Moslems were still a majority in the proposed Israeli state within the Palestine mandate.


No. You are reporting your comical inability to comprehend what is in the video.
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Reply #490 - Apr 22nd, 2023 at 11:19am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 10:42am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 8:25am:
freediver wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 7:58am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 12th, 2023 at 3:50pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 7:02pm:
Murdering who?


The majority Muslims.


You are full of crap.


Just reporting what I heard in the video; in 1947 Moslems were still a majority in the proposed Israeli state within the Palestine mandate.


No. You are reporting your comical inability to comprehend what is in the video.


https://twitter.com/abierkhatib/status/1632588309548367874

Historian Ilan Pappe' at 42 seconds:

"even in the Jewish state that was offered by the UN (in 1947), the Jews were still NOT the majority".

Can you indicate what I am "unable to comprehend"?  And even so, Zionists murdered unarmed Moslem villagers, in 1947/48 during the unilateral declaration of Israel by the Jews, as shown in #467.
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Reply #491 - Apr 22nd, 2023 at 11:48am
 
Going from majority to minority does not mean they were all murdered. They are still there. Some of them are even in the Israeli parliament.
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Reply #492 - Apr 22nd, 2023 at 12:04pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 11:48am:
Going from majority to minority does not mean they were all murdered. They are still there. Some of them are even in the Israeli parliament.


No-one said that, do keep up.

Many thousands fled the violence amid reports of genocide by Zionists, and  became refugees in Jordan.

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Reply #493 - Apr 22nd, 2023 at 12:09pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 12:04pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 11:48am:
Going from majority to minority does not mean they were all murdered. They are still there. Some of them are even in the Israeli parliament.


No-one said that, do keep up.

Many thousands fled the violence amid reports of genocide by Zionists, and  became refugees in Jordan.



Reports eh? Would that the Islam-inspired hysteria at the thought of the evil Jews taking charge?
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Reply #494 - Apr 22nd, 2023 at 3:42pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 12:09pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 12:04pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 22nd, 2023 at 11:48am:
Going from majority to minority does not mean they were all murdered. They are still there. Some of them are even in the Israeli parliament.


No-one said that, do keep up.


Reports eh? Would that the Islam-inspired hysteria at the thought of the evil Jews taking charge?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight

"In 1948 more than 700,000 Palestinian Arabs – about half of prewar Palestine's Arab population – were expelled or fled from their homes,[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10] during the 1948 Palestine war.[11] Count Bernadotte, the UN mediator in Palestine reported in September 1948 that "the exodus of the Palestinian Arabs resulted from panic created by fighting in their communities, by rumours concerning real or alleged acts of terrorism, or expulsion. Almost the whole of the Arab population fled or was expelled from the area under Jewish occupation."

Those refugee camps in Jordan and elsewhere since 1948 are the proof; see #467.




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