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Re: Zionism
Reply #495 - Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 4:35pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 3:42pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 12:09pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 12:04pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 11:48am:

Going from majority to minority does not mean they were all murdered. They are still there. Some of them are even in the Israeli parliament.

No-one said that, do keep up.

Reports eh? Would that the Islam-inspired hysteria at the thought of the evil Jews taking charge?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight

"In 1948 more than 700,000 Palestinian Arabs – about half of prewar Palestine's Arab population – were expelled or fled from their homes,[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10] during the 1948 Palestine war.[11] Count Bernadotte, the UN mediator in Palestine reported in September 1948 that "the exodus of the Palestinian Arabs resulted from panic created by fighting in their communities, by rumours concerning real or alleged acts of terrorism, or expulsion. Almost the whole of the Arab population fled or was expelled from the area under Jewish occupation."

Those refugee camps in Jordan and elsewhere since 1948 are the proof; see #467.

Are you saying it is the Jews fault that the Muslims believed their own Islamic propaganda about evil Jews and fled their own homes in fear of a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards and oppressive places on earth?

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Re: Zionism
Reply #496 - Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 7:50pm

freediver wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 4:35pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 3:42pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 12:09pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 12:04pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 11:48am:

Going from majority to minority does not mean they were all murdered. They are still there. Some of them are even in the Israeli parliament.

No-one said that, do keep up.

Reports eh? Would that the Islam-inspired hysteria at the thought of the evil Jews taking charge?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight

"In 1948 more than 700,000 Palestinian Arabs – about half of prewar Palestine's Arab population – were expelled or fled from their homes,[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10] during the 1948 Palestine war.[11] Count Bernadotte, the UN mediator in Palestine reported in September 1948 that "the exodus of the Palestinian Arabs resulted from panic created by fighting in their communities, by rumours concerning real or alleged acts of terrorism, or expulsion. Almost the whole of the Arab population fled or was expelled from the area under Jewish occupation."

Those refugee camps in Jordan and elsewhere since 1948 are the proof; see #467.

Are you saying it is the Jews fault that the Muslims believed their own Islamic propaganda about evil Jews and fled their own homes in fear of a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards and oppressive places on earth?

So you're saying that the massacre of more than 110 men, women and children by members of Irgun and Stern Gang Zionist militias in the village of Deir Yassin on the western outskirts of Jerusalem on April 9, 1948 is simply Islamic propaganda?

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Re: Zionism
Reply #497 - Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 9:23pm

freediver wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 4:35pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 3:42pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 12:09pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 12:04pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 11:48am:

Going from majority to minority does not mean they were all murdered. They are still there. Some of them are even in the Israeli parliament.

No-one said that, do keep up.

Reports eh? Would that the Islam-inspired hysteria at the thought of the evil Jews taking charge?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight

"In 1948 more than 700,000 Palestinian Arabs – about half of prewar Palestine's Arab population – were expelled or fled from their homes,[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10] during the 1948 Palestine war.[11] Count Bernadotte, the UN mediator in Palestine reported in September 1948 that "the exodus of the Palestinian Arabs resulted from panic created by fighting in their communities, by rumours concerning real or alleged acts of terrorism, or expulsion. Almost the whole of the Arab population fled or was expelled from the area under Jewish occupation."

Those refugee camps in Jordan and elsewhere since 1948 are the proof; see #467.

Are you saying it is the Jews fault that the Muslims believed their own Islamic propaganda about evil Jews and fled their own homes in fear of a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards and oppressive places on earth?

No; I'm saying the more militarily-advanced Zionists shouldn't have murdered Moslem villagers, causing the mass expulsion of Moslems.

Not to mention; 2 years after the signing of the UN Charter, the acquisition of territory by force is illegal...

The Zionists were taking villages not granted by the UN.

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Re: Zionism
Reply #498 - Apr 23^rd, 2023 at 8:02am

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 7:50pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 4:35pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 3:42pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 12:09pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 12:04pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 11:48am:

Going from majority to minority does not mean they were all murdered. They are still there. Some of them are even in the Israeli parliament.

No-one said that, do keep up.

Reports eh? Would that the Islam-inspired hysteria at the thought of the evil Jews taking charge?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight

"In 1948 more than 700,000 Palestinian Arabs – about half of prewar Palestine's Arab population – were expelled or fled from their homes,[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10] during the 1948 Palestine war.[11] Count Bernadotte, the UN mediator in Palestine reported in September 1948 that "the exodus of the Palestinian Arabs resulted from panic created by fighting in their communities, by rumours concerning real or alleged acts of terrorism, or expulsion. Almost the whole of the Arab population fled or was expelled from the area under Jewish occupation."

Those refugee camps in Jordan and elsewhere since 1948 are the proof; see #467.

Are you saying it is the Jews fault that the Muslims believed their own Islamic propaganda about evil Jews and fled their own homes in fear of a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards and oppressive places on earth?

So you're saying that the massacre of more than 110 men, women and children by members of Irgun and Stern Gang Zionist militias in the village of Deir Yassin on the western outskirts of Jerusalem on April 9, 1948 is simply Islamic propaganda?

If I was saying that, I would have said it.

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No; I'm saying the more militarily-advanced Zionists shouldn't have murdered Moslem villagers, causing the mass expulsion of Moslems.

But your own evidence attributes the expulsion at least partly to Muslims fleeing their own "evil Jew" propaganda. The Jews allowed many Muslims to stay in Israel, so long as they did not take up arms against them. Today, they live in the most liberal and democratic country in the region, with more rights and freedoms, and a greater say in their own governance, than Muslims in the rest of the middle east.

And apart from your idiotic three word response, you still haven't told us who they murdered.

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Reply #499 - Apr 23^rd, 2023 at 8:09am

freediver wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2023 at 8:02am:

But your own evidence attributes the expulsion at least partly to Muslims fleeing their own "evil Jew" propaganda.

At least partly?

And the other part due to actual murder of innocent unarmed civilians?

That's why you can't comment on UN res. 181 and 242.

International mediation of biased world views (Zionist or Islamic) is not in your rule-book.

Deplorable.

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Reply #501 - Apr 23^rd, 2023 at 8:26am

freediver wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2023 at 8:12am:

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And the other part due to actual murder of innocent unarmed civilians?

Apart from your idiotic three word response, you still haven't told us who they murdered.

The Stern gang were murderers, as well documented in previous posts here.

But notice you won't touch the issue of internatioal mediation of opposing ideologies.

Confirming your closed-minded "deplorabes' condition.

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Re: Zionism
Reply #502 - Apr 23^rd, 2023 at 8:56am

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2023 at 8:26am:

freediver wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2023 at 8:12am:

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And the other part due to actual murder of innocent unarmed civilians?

Apart from your idiotic three word response, you still haven't told us who they murdered.

The Stern gang were murderers, as well documented in previous posts here.

But notice you won't touch the issue of internatioal mediation of opposing ideologies.

Confirming your closed-minded "deplorabes' condition.

Who did they murder?

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Re: Zionism
Reply #503 - Apr 24^th, 2023 at 9:52am

freediver wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2023 at 8:56am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2023 at 8:26am:

freediver wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2023 at 8:12am:

Quote:

And the other part due to actual murder of innocent unarmed civilians?

Apart from your idiotic three word response, you still haven't told us who they murdered.

The Stern gang were murderers, as well documented in previous posts here.

But notice you won't touch the issue of internatioal mediation of opposing ideologies.

Confirming your closed-minded "deplorabes' condition.

Who did they murder?

Unarmed (non-combatant) Moslem villagers.

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Reply #504 - Apr 24^th, 2023 at 5:47pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 24^th, 2023 at 9:52am:

freediver wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2023 at 8:56am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2023 at 8:26am:

freediver wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2023 at 8:12am:

Quote:

And the other part due to actual murder of innocent unarmed civilians?

Apart from your idiotic three word response, you still haven't told us who they murdered.

The Stern gang were murderers, as well documented in previous posts here.

But notice you won't touch the issue of internatioal mediation of opposing ideologies.

Confirming your closed-minded "deplorabes' condition.

Who did they murder?

Unarmed (non-combatant) Moslem villagers.

We are up to four words now.

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Re: Zionism
Reply #506 - Apr 24^th, 2023 at 9:29pm

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 7:50pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 4:35pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 3:42pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 12:09pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 12:04pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 11:48am:

Going from majority to minority does not mean they were all murdered. They are still there. Some of them are even in the Israeli parliament.

No-one said that, do keep up.

Reports eh? Would that the Islam-inspired hysteria at the thought of the evil Jews taking charge?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight

"In 1948 more than 700,000 Palestinian Arabs – about half of prewar Palestine's Arab population – were expelled or fled from their homes,[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10] during the 1948 Palestine war.[11] Count Bernadotte, the UN mediator in Palestine reported in September 1948 that "the exodus of the Palestinian Arabs resulted from panic created by fighting in their communities, by rumours concerning real or alleged acts of terrorism, or expulsion. Almost the whole of the Arab population fled or was expelled from the area under Jewish occupation."

Those refugee camps in Jordan and elsewhere since 1948 are the proof; see #467.

Are you saying it is the Jews fault that the Muslims believed their own Islamic propaganda about evil Jews and fled their own homes in fear of a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards and oppressive places on earth?

So you're saying that the massacre of more than 110 men, women and children by members of Irgun and Stern Gang Zionist militias in the village of Deir Yassin on the western outskirts of Jerusalem on April 9, 1948 is simply Islamic propaganda?

Well, FD?

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Re: Zionism
Reply #508 - Apr 25^th, 2023 at 9:39am

What is Isreal supposed to do when terrorist groups supported by Arab nations fire rockets into Tel Aviv and kill it's citizens....Whilst Isreal is not pure in it's treatment of Palestinians in the West Bank there is no doubt Isreal is fighting a war against terrorists who deliberatly use civilians as a shield....Until Palestinians stop supporting and hiding terrorists there will be no peace and no resolution!!!

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 13043 Gender:	Re: Zionism Reply #509 - Apr 25^th, 2023 at 10:58am freediver wrote on Apr 24^th, 2023 at 9:36pm: Well what? "the massacre of more than 110 men, women and children by members of Irgun and Stern Gang Zionist militias in the village of Deir Yassin on the western outskirts of Jerusalem on April 9, 1948 is simply Islamic propaganda?"
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