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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49266 At my desk.	Re: Zionism Reply #585 - May 1^st, 2023 at 11:20am Quote: You are confused: the poor sods who will be fighting the war would rather not fight, of course; but the nations' leaders demanding "we will not give up an inch of our soil...." What nation?
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Reply #586 - May 1^st, 2023 at 9:15pm

freediver wrote on May 1^st, 2023 at 11:20am:

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You are confused: the poor sods who will be fighting the war would rather not fight, of course; but the nations' leaders demanding "we will not give up an inch of our soil...."

What nation?

The nation(s) who you say instinctively don't want to fight wars.

Exhibit 1.

Ukraine, fighting for "freedom"....

exhibit 2.

Putin, fighting "to defend Russia from NATO.

exhibit 3.

illegal WB settlers, fighting to possess "the promised land".

exhibit 4

Moslems, fighting to possess Palestine against 'the infidels'.

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Reply #587 - May 1^st, 2023 at 9:21pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 1^st, 2023 at 9:15pm:

freediver wrote on May 1^st, 2023 at 11:20am:

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You are confused: the poor sods who will be fighting the war would rather not fight, of course; but the nations' leaders demanding "we will not give up an inch of our soil...."

What nation?

The nation(s) who you say instinctively don't want to fight wars.

Exhibit 1.

Ukraine, fighting for "freedom"....

exhibit 2.

Putin, fighting "to defend Russia from NATO.

exhibit 3.

illegal WB settlers, fighting to possess "the promised land".

exhibit 4

Moslems, fighting to possess Palestine against 'the infidels'.

So you think that is why the Muslims are frothing at the mouth over a Jewish state? Is every one of them the leader of a nation?

You come up with a new theory for every post.

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Reply #588 - May 1^st, 2023 at 9:38pm

freediver wrote on May 1^st, 2023 at 9:21pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 1^st, 2023 at 9:15pm:

freediver wrote on May 1^st, 2023 at 11:20am:

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You are confused: the poor sods who will be fighting the war would rather not fight, of course; but the nations' leaders demanding "we will not give up an inch of our soil...."

What nation?

The nation(s) who you say instinctively don't want to fight wars.

Exhibit 1.

Ukraine, fighting for "freedom"....

exhibit 2.

Putin, fighting "to defend Russia from NATO.

exhibit 3.

illegal WB settlers, fighting to possess "the promised land".

exhibit 4

Moslems, fighting to possess Palestine against 'the infidels'.

So you think that is why the Muslims are frothing at the mouth over a Jewish state?

Of course, and why illegal Zionist settlers are "frothing at the mouth" and ignoring international law...

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Is every one of them the leader of a nation?

No, but all ideologues follow the leader....

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You come up with a new theory for every post.

Whereas you are permanently deluded in your 'sovereign individual rights'/"freedom" ideology.

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Reply #590 - May 2^nd, 2023 at 11:04am

freediver wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 6:33am:

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No, but all ideologues follow the leader....

What leader?

And what nation?

In short, your desperate thesis that the instinct for self-preservation is different in effect to the instinct for possession of what is perceived to be one's own land is exposed for the nonsense it is.

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Reply #591 - May 2^nd, 2023 at 5:47pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 11:04am:

freediver wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 6:33am:

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No, but all ideologues follow the leader....

What leader?

And what nation?

In short, your desperate thesis that the instinct for self-preservation is different in effect to the instinct for possession of what is perceived to be one's own land is exposed for the nonsense it is.

What leader?

And what nation?

Would you like to invent yet another theory to explain why Muslims hate Jews?

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 13057 Gender:	Re: Zionism Reply #592 - May 2^nd, 2023 at 5:57pm freediver wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 5:47pm: thegreatdivide wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 11:04am: [quote author=freediver link=1671444180/589#589 date=1682973199] [quote]No, but all ideologues follow the leader.... What leader? Irrational instinct....
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49266 At my desk.	Re: Zionism Reply #593 - May 2^nd, 2023 at 6:01pm So your theory is that Muslims were following their instinct in trying to slaughter Jews, except they weren't following their instinct because that would be complete BS, they were actually following the leader of the country the Jews stole, and that leader is their instinct?
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Reply #594 - May 2^nd, 2023 at 6:03pm

freediver wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 5:47pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 11:04am:

freediver wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 6:33am:

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No, but all ideologues follow the leader....

What leader?

And what nation?

In short, your desperate thesis that the instinct for self-preservation is different in effect to the instinct for possession of what is perceived to be one's own land is exposed for the nonsense it is.

What leader?

And what nation?

Would you like to invent yet another theory to explain why Muslims hate Jews?

I can't explain it.
Islam is an Abrahamic religion - so is Christianity.

Judaism. In Jewish tradition, Abraham is called Avraham Avinu (אברהם אבינו), "our father Abraham,"
signifying that he is both the biological progenitor of the Jews and the father of Judaism, the first Jew.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49266 At my desk.	Re: Zionism Reply #595 - May 2^nd, 2023 at 6:17pm Maybe TGD is just afraid to admit he doesn't know why.
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Reply #596 - May 2^nd, 2023 at 6:23pm

freediver wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 6:17pm:

Maybe TGD is just afraid to admit he doesn't know why.

Hi FD,
little known fact -
long ago -
there were many churches in the Middle East where
all 3 branches of the Abrahamic religion went for weekly services to the same place!

the Muslims on Friday,
the Jews on Saturday &
the Christians on Sunday -

they all worshiped the same Abrahamic God without fighting - go figure?

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Reply #597 - May 2^nd, 2023 at 6:27pm

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 6:23pm:

freediver wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 6:17pm:

Maybe TGD is just afraid to admit he doesn't know why.

Hi FD,
little known fact -
long ago -
there were many churches in the Middle East where
all 3 branches of the Abrahamic religion went for weekly services to the same place!

the Muslims on Friday,
the Jews on Saturday &
the Christians on Sunday -

they all worshiped the same Abrahamic God without fighting - go figure?

Poverty is a great equaliser.

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Reply #598 - May 2^nd, 2023 at 6:30pm

freediver wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 6:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 6:23pm:

freediver wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 6:17pm:

Maybe TGD is just afraid to admit he doesn't know why.

Hi FD,
little known fact -
long ago -
there were many churches in the Middle East where
all 3 branches of the Abrahamic religion went for weekly services to the same place!

the Muslims on Friday,
the Jews on Saturday &
the Christians on Sunday -

they all worshiped the same Abrahamic God without fighting - go figure?

Poverty is a great equaliser.

Yes when the Muslims had enough money to build their golden domed mosque
over the top of the temple Mount - that caused a problem.

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Reply #599 - May 3^rd, 2023 at 12:43pm

freediver wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 6:01pm:

So your theory is that Muslims were following their instinct in trying to slaughter Jews,

No, they were following their instincts to possess what they considered to be their land (before the UN decided to partition Palestine).

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except they weren't following their instinct because that would be complete BS,

er... we all follow our instincts, unless/until our cortex tells us it's not a good idea....

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they were actually following the leader of the country the Jews stole,

Well, the Mufti of Jerusalem - an influential Moslem leader - certainly had his views about Jewish occupation of Palestine....

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and that leader is their instinct?

I feel embarrassed to even have to point out your error, can you see it without my assistance?

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