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Reply #645 - May 7th, 2023 at 5:49pm
 
Maybe that's why TGD is so happy to lie about Muslims. He doesn't actually care why they want to slaughter Jews. he just wants to hurry up an appease them.
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Reply #646 - May 8th, 2023 at 6:49am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 4th, 2023 at 6:18pm:
given the Koran's dictates re "infidels"


For example?
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Reply #647 - May 8th, 2023 at 11:20am
 
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Do we need to be always politically correct.
In the world of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
 
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Reply #648 - May 8th, 2023 at 12:03pm
 
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #649 - May 8th, 2023 at 1:27pm
 
freediver wrote on May 7th, 2023 at 2:33pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 7th, 2023 at 2:08pm:
freediver wrote on May 7th, 2023 at 2:01pm:
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What is the "most obvious" solution to the current unrest?


Cause. Not solution.
 

Can't you see your error there?

The cause is not the solution....




Ah, so you think we should skip straight to the solution and not worry about what the cause of the problem is? So that we can bring peace to the middle east overnight?


You confused 'cause' with 'solution', because your capacity for analysis is crippled (ultimately by blind instinct over-ruling your cortex).


As you said, we need to understand the cause of the problem, to create the solution; yet you can't offer a solution because you have decided the Arabs have no cultural/religious attachment to Palestine post 1947, and should therefore just have accepted  the UN partition plan.

So UN res. 181 and 242 were rejected by both Zionists and Moslems, though now the latter are begging for said UN resolutions,  because they lost the military conflicts.

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Maybe that's why TGD is so happy to lie about Muslims. He doesn't actually care why they want to slaughter Jews. he just wants to hurry up an appease them.


I already explained why Moslems want to slaughter Jews ie for the same 'reason' (ie mad instinct) the Stern gang murdered Moslems who resisted the Jewish  takeover of Palestine.

Sadly there is no solution while international law is ignored by all sides, as a result of FD's delusional "individual rights"/"freedom" ideology.

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For example?


https://www.mdpi.com/2077-1444/10/1/63

According to Islamic religious teachings, some Jews confirmed the authenticity of Muhammad’s prophethood and joined him. Most Jews, however, are condemned for both rejecting the Prophet and failing to live up to their own religious imperatives.

iow, they are "infidels" - I'll let you google the Koranic verses dealing with "infidels" and their punishment. 






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Reply #650 - May 8th, 2023 at 5:46pm
 
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As you said, we need to understand the cause of the problem, to create the solution


Do you disagree with this? It's hard to tell.

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yet you can't offer a solution


I didn't say that.

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because you have decided the Arabs have no cultural/religious attachment to Palestine post 1947


That makes no sense at all.

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I already explained why Moslems want to slaughter Jews ie for the same 'reason' (ie mad instinct)


That was one of the many reasons you flip flopped between. Fast enough, apparently, to avoid actually thinking about any of them.

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According to Islamic religious teachings, some Jews confirmed the authenticity of Muhammad’s prophethood and joined him. Most Jews, however, are condemned for both rejecting the Prophet and failing to live up to their own religious imperatives.


So Islam condemns Jews?
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Reply #651 - May 8th, 2023 at 6:43pm
 
freediver wrote on May 8th, 2023 at 5:46pm:
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As you said, we need to understand the cause of the problem, to create the solution


Do you disagree with this? It's hard to tell.


Of course I agree; the problem is your crippled ability to analzise the causes of conflicts.

Yet you can't offer a solution; I asked for your solution and you made a stupid statement claiming  "the cause is the solution". So can you now tell us your solution? 

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That makes no sense at all.


Not to you, your capacity for analysis is crippled by your delusional "freedom" ideology.   

Once again: the Arab world objected to Israel being carved out of Palestine by the UN partition plan., while Zionists enabled the plan BY FORCE.  That's the cause of the present conflict.

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That was one of the many reasons you flip flopped between. Fast enough, apparently, to avoid actually thinking about any of them.
 

Your false narrative re the course of the debate is to be expected coming from a deluded freedom ideologue.

There are causes, effects and solutions; and so you hide behind false assertion re "flip-flopping".   

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So Islam condemns Jews?


Your comprehension skills incapacitated?

Read the passage again and let me know what you can't  comprehend....


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Reply #652 - May 8th, 2023 at 7:24pm
 
Does Islam condemn Jews?
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Reply #653 - May 9th, 2023 at 5:36am
 
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the massacre of more than 110 men, women and children by members of Irgun and Stern Gang Zionist militias in the village of Deir Yassin


Not only did these evil Jewish genocidal maniacs terrorize and slaughter innocent Palestinians but,

British Intel Files Reveal How the Zionist Stern Gang Terrorized London

"In April 1947, two Stern Gang terrorists, a man and a woman, attempted to blow up the Colonial Office in Whitehall in the center of London. They planted a bomb containing 24 sticks of explosives at Dover House, headquarters of the Colonial Office, but it failed to go off because it was not fused correctly...

"In June 1947, two months after the attempted bombing of the Colonial Office, a Stern Gang cell operating in Italy posted 21 letter bombs to senior British politicians and cabinet members including Prime Minister Clement Attlee, Foreign Secretary Ernest Bevin and Chancellor of the Exchequer Stafford, Cripps as well as Winston Churchill. Most of the letter bombs were intercepted, but some reached their intended recipients and failed to go off."


Though most of the article on that site is behind a paywall, it can be viewed in its entirety here
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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

Benjamin Netanyahu, quoted in Ma’ariv, 16 April 2008
 
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Reply #654 - May 9th, 2023 at 1:17pm
 
freediver wrote on May 8th, 2023 at 7:24pm:
Does Islam condemn Jews?


"According to Islamic religious teachings, some Jews confirmed the authenticity of Muhammad’s prophethood and joined him. Most Jews, however, are condemned for both rejecting the Prophet and failing to live up to their own religious imperatives."


Your old 'tried and trusty' (and fraudulent)  "FTW" technique not working, FD?
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Reply #655 - May 9th, 2023 at 3:20pm
 
freediver wrote on May 8th, 2023 at 7:24pm:
Does Islam condemn Jews?


Yes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Islam


Antisemitism in Islam

Antisemitism in Islam refers to scriptural and theological teachings in Islam against Jews and Judaism, and the treatment and persecution of Jews in the Muslim world.

With the rise of Islam in Arabia in the 7th century CE and its subsequent spread during the early Muslim conquests, Jews, alongside many other peoples, became subject to the rule of Islamic polities. The quality of Muslim rule varied considerably in different periods, as did the attitudes of the rulers, government officials, the clergy, and the general population towards various subjugated ethnic and religious groups, ranging from tolerance to open persecution.

Scholars have studied and debated Muslim attitudes towards Jews, as well as the treatment of Jews in Islamic thought and societies throughout the history of Islam.



There is a long read after that with 242 references.
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Reply #656 - May 9th, 2023 at 5:25pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 9th, 2023 at 1:17pm:
freediver wrote on May 8th, 2023 at 7:24pm:
Does Islam condemn Jews?


"According to Islamic religious teachings, some Jews confirmed the authenticity of Muhammad’s prophethood and joined him. Most Jews, however, are condemned for both rejecting the Prophet and failing to live up to their own religious imperatives."


Your old 'tried and trusty' (and fraudulent)  "FTW" technique not working, FD?


Is that a yes?
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Reply #657 - May 9th, 2023 at 9:48pm
 
freediver wrote on May 9th, 2023 at 5:25pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 9th, 2023 at 1:17pm:
freediver wrote on May 8th, 2023 at 7:24pm:
Does Islam condemn Jews?


"According to Islamic religious teachings, some Jews confirmed the authenticity of Muhammad’s prophethood and joined him. Most Jews, however, are condemned for both rejecting the Prophet and failing to live up to their own religious imperatives."


Your old 'tried and trusty' (and fraudulent)  "FTW" technique not working, FD?


Is that a yes?


Is "most Jews" a yes?

Including those Jews who failed to follow the ancient Jewish prophets, also prophets of Islam. 


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Reply #658 - May 10th, 2023 at 6:42am
 
Do you think Muslims might use stronger wording than that in condemning Jews?
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Reply #659 - May 10th, 2023 at 12:13pm
 
freediver wrote on May 10th, 2023 at 6:42am:
Do you think Muslims might use stronger wording than that in condemning Jews?

 
All Moslems?
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