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Re: Zionism
Reply #840 - Jul 3^rd, 2023 at 6:14pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2023 at 5:46pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2023 at 3:42pm:

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I think PA Fatah Muslims are moderates

I don't think you answered the question.

Funny...coming from you.

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Do you think the Muslims would defeat Israel and set up a liberal democracy in which both Jews and Muslims had more rights than in any of the surrounding Muslim countries and also had an equal say in government?

Note: Israel needs to exit the occupied territories, as required by international law.

As to your ideologically constructed question: moderate Muslims do not plan to "defeat Israel", so why should I tell you what you want me to say about fundamentalist Muslims?
The world's largest Muslim nation, Indonesia, is a functioning democracry (unlike theocracies like Arabia and Iran) - with all the problems of democracies.

Of course the fundamentalist Jewish illegal WB settlers will engender an opposing fundamentalism among Muslims.

Who are these moderate Muslims you are projecting your views onto?

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Re: Zionism
Reply #841 - Jul 4^th, 2023 at 1:11pm

freediver wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2023 at 6:14pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2023 at 5:46pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2023 at 3:42pm:

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I think PA Fatah Muslims are moderates

I don't think you answered the question.

Funny...coming from you.

Quote:

Do you think the Muslims would defeat Israel and set up a liberal democracy in which both Jews and Muslims had more rights than in any of the surrounding Muslim countries and also had an equal say in government?

Note: Israel needs to exit the occupied territories, as required by international law.

As to your ideologically constructed question: moderate Muslims do not plan to "defeat Israel", so why should I tell you what you want me to say about fundamentalist Muslims?
The world's largest Muslim nation, Indonesia, is a functioning democracry (unlike theocracies like Arabia and Iran) - with all the problems of democracies.

Of course the fundamentalist Jewish illegal WB settlers will engender an opposing fundamentalism among Muslims.

Who are these moderate Muslims you are projecting your views onto?

The ones who accept Israel's right to exist.

Unlike fundamentalist settler f**kwits who believe they have a god-given right to the WB.

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Re: Zionism
Reply #842 - Jul 5^th, 2023 at 5:34am

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 4^th, 2023 at 1:11pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2023 at 6:14pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2023 at 5:46pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2023 at 3:42pm:

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I think PA Fatah Muslims are moderates

I don't think you answered the question.

Funny...coming from you.

Quote:

Do you think the Muslims would defeat Israel and set up a liberal democracy in which both Jews and Muslims had more rights than in any of the surrounding Muslim countries and also had an equal say in government?

Note: Israel needs to exit the occupied territories, as required by international law.

As to your ideologically constructed question: moderate Muslims do not plan to "defeat Israel", so why should I tell you what you want me to say about fundamentalist Muslims?
The world's largest Muslim nation, Indonesia, is a functioning democracry (unlike theocracies like Arabia and Iran) - with all the problems of democracies.

Of course the fundamentalist Jewish illegal WB settlers will engender an opposing fundamentalism among Muslims.

Who are these moderate Muslims you are projecting your views onto?

The ones who accept Israel's right to exist.

Unlike fundamentalist settler f**kwits who believe they have a god-given right to the WB.

Have you ever met any?

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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Zionism Reply #843 - Jul 5^th, 2023 at 11:45am The WB Arabs showed their true colours when they cheered the 911 fanatics. No doubt with right publicity they would have cheered the Bali bombers.
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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12978 Gender:	Re: Zionism Reply #844 - Jul 5^th, 2023 at 4:31pm freediver wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 5:34am: Have you ever met any? I saw one on TV the other night, spouting his biblical BS about the 'Promised Land'. No way would I ever be interested in meeting someone like that, willing to kill children for an ideology - just like fundamentalists everywhere.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49085 At my desk.	Re: Zionism Reply #845 - Jul 5^th, 2023 at 5:42pm Why do you keep talking about moderate muslims if you have never met one? Is that like a moderate Nazi?
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Re: Zionism
Reply #846 - Jul 5^th, 2023 at 6:18pm

freediver wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 5:42pm:

Why do you keep talking about moderate muslims if you have never met one? Is that like a moderate Nazi?

I already cited Indonesia, prepared to send its own fundy terrorists to the firing squad:

All the leading perpetrators of the Bali attacks were either executed, killed by police or jailed.

Unlike Israel's codding and encouraging its fundy "God- given Land" settler f**kwits rampaging through Muslim homes in the Muslim WB.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49085 At my desk.	Re: Zionism Reply #847 - Jul 5^th, 2023 at 6:24pm Quote: I already cited Indonesia Indonesia is a country.
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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12978 Gender:	Re: Zionism Reply #848 - Jul 5^th, 2023 at 6:35pm freediver wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 6:24pm: Quote: I already cited Indonesia Indonesia is a country. With some moderate Muslims - like Israel has some moderate Jews....
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49085 At my desk.	Re: Zionism Reply #849 - Jul 5^th, 2023 at 6:49pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 6:35pm: freediver wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 6:24pm: Quote: I already cited Indonesia Indonesia is a country. With some moderate Muslims - like Israel has some moderate Jews.... Have you ever met any?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74695 Gender:	Re: Zionism Reply #850 - Jul 5^th, 2023 at 7:09pm Is fd pretending that jewish terrorists are better than Muslim ones? It's the cause, right fd?
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Re: Zionism
Reply #851 - Jul 5^th, 2023 at 7:54pm

issuevoter wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 11:45am:

The WB Arabs showed their true colours when they cheered the 911 fanatics. No doubt with right publicity they would have cheered the Bali bombers.

What about the dancing Jews that were caught videoing and then dancing and celebrating the 9/11 incident as if they had foreknowledge of it?

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12768362.five-israelis-were-seen-filming-as-...

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Five Israelis were seen filming as jet liners ploughed into the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001 ...
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THERE was ruin and terror in Manhattan, but, over the Hudson River in New Jersey, a handful of men were dancing. As the World Trade Centre burned and crumpled, the five men celebrated and filmed the worst atrocity ever committed on American soil as it played out before their eyes.

Who do you think they were? Palestinians? Saudis? Iraqis, even? Al-Qaeda, surely? Wrong on all counts. They were Israelis - and at least two of them were Israeli intelligence agents, working for Mossad, the equivalent of MI6 or the CIA.

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Their discovery and arrest that morning is a matter of indisputable fact. To those who have investigated just what the Israelis were up to that day, the case raises one dreadful possibility: that Israeli intelligence had been shadowing the al-Qaeda hijackers as they moved from the Middle East through Europe and into America where they trained as pilots and prepared to suicide-bomb the symbolic heart of the United States. And the motive? To bind America in blood and mutual suffering to the Israeli cause.

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Re: Zionism
Reply #852 - Jul 6^th, 2023 at 1:07pm

freediver wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 6:49pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 6:35pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 6:24pm:

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I already cited Indonesia

Indonesia is a country.

With some moderate Muslims - like Israel has some moderate Jews....

Have you ever met any?

Will you ever be capable of non-fraudulent debating?

Carry on: the world is getting more amd more pissed off with Israeli atrocities in the illegally occupied WB, while Netanyahu is hoping for Trump's return to the WH....

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Re: Zionism
Reply #853 - Jul 6^th, 2023 at 5:19pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 6^th, 2023 at 1:07pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 6:49pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 6:35pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 6:24pm:

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I already cited Indonesia

Indonesia is a country.

With some moderate Muslims - like Israel has some moderate Jews....

Have you ever met any?

Will you ever be capable of non-fraudulent debating?

Carry on: the world is getting more amd more pissed off with Israeli atrocities in the illegally occupied WB, while Netanyahu is hoping for Trump's return to the WH....

72% of Indonesian Muslims want Shariah law, 48% want people stoned to death for adultery.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/

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Re: Zionism
Reply #854 - Jul 6^th, 2023 at 5:29pm

freediver wrote on Jul 6^th, 2023 at 5:19pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 6^th, 2023 at 1:07pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 6:49pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 6:35pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 6:24pm:

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I already cited Indonesia

Indonesia is a country.

With some moderate Muslims - like Israel has some moderate Jews....

Have you ever met any?

Will you ever be capable of non-fraudulent debating?

Carry on: the world is getting more amd more pissed off with Israeli atrocities in the illegally occupied WB, while Netanyahu is hoping for Trump's return to the WH....

72% of Indonesian Muslims want Shariah law, 48% want people stoned to death for adultery.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/

Don't freedive in Indonesia then. Simple.

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