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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #120 - Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:41pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:35pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:21pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 6:29pm:
NAIDOC week is 2-9 July 2023.  What is the significance of those dates in the Aboriginal calendar?

Nothing. There is no Aboriginal calendar and with the possible exception of Aborigines in Sydney Cove, 26 January 1788 went COMPLETELY unremarked.

Getting agitated by that date is pure hate and resentment and toxic self pity - even though almost all Aborigines today have significant European settler or other immigrant blood. How do they reconcile their hearts with that immense hate for their own forebears?

It is a toxic stance and it is cultivated by toxic  Europeans with zero Aboriginality, like Thick-as Gino, Tut-tutsie Bbwian, Poison Pill of Perth et al.


I wonder what Pearson's and Price's views (abos - I can't say blacks, because Price looks white -  on opposing sides of the voice debate)  are on such things as the date, and Mt Warning.


Maybe if you've got a seeing eye dog and a white stick ...

https://www.clp.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/jacinta-price.jpg


Priceless ...but wouldn't you feel silly saying she is "black"?
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Reply #121 - Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:45pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 10:09pm:
Then we can all be treated equally, eh?  No more preferential treatment for special interest groups and minorities..... you know who I mean...


certainly, but the huge gap based on skin colour will need to be closed.
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Reply #122 - Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:53pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:39am:
Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:03am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 8:41pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 6:54pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 9:43am:
Belgarion wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 9:14am:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 9:11am:
Belgarion wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 9:00am:
If people want to work on a public holiday then that's entirely up to them. No need to bring the anti-Australian politics of the woke bedwetters  into it.


Explain how wanting to change a symbolic date makes someone anti-Australian....The debate comes up every Jan 26, it won't go away because of your right wing leanings....Put forward a valid argument against changing the date instead of arguing irellivant bullshit???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How about a valid argument as to why it should be changed? But there isn't one, is there?


The main Argument is that having the date celebrate the day the first nations people were colonized and Australia was declared British land....This does not sit well with many Australian's who have no link too British ancesstory....Why not change the date so all Australian's can celebrate if they wish....Patriotism is bullshit anyway IMO???

Here are some reasons if you actually give a crap???

https://www.australianethical.com.au/blog/australia-day-why-we-need-to-change-th...

https://crescentwealth.com.au/articles/8-reasons-why-the-date-for-australia-day-...

https://www.news.com.au/national/why-australia-day-has-to-change-from-january-26...

Now explain how wanting to change a symbolic date makes someone anti-Australian???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Here's where your stupidity comes to the fore..

there never were any nations or a nation of one group here.

You think in a fantasy .. a delusion.


Speaking of stupidity,  wtf has your rant to do with anything? No one said there was a rant. Just more rabid nonsense so you can sprout your stupidity


Spec Savers? the response was to the "first nations" BS.

Much like your BS.


So your purile argument is calling Aboriginal and Torris Straight people "First Nation" is incorrect because Australia was not a nation....Perhaps first inhabitants would be more acceptable to your pathetic criticism....Australia was declared Terra nullius by the British!!!

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Terra nullius is a Latin expression meaning "nobody's land". It was a principle sometimes used in international law to justify claims that territory may be acquired by a state's occupation of it.


Aboriginal people were not even counted in the Census untill after 1967....Typical bullshit no response to the argument from a rabid racist....Aboriginal peole were here first and treated abohrently by the British and Colonials....Australia has nothing to be proud of with it's treatment of it's indiginous population!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



And neither did any colonising/conquering groups or nations throughout the human history of the globe. But those countries grew & changed with the times.

The Indonesians are still committing genocide & oppressing the Melanesians of West Papua.

Aboriginals may have been here first but they had no discernable nation/s or civilization to the British observers at the time. They were scattered tribal groups of people.

They had no notion of "nation" or "ownership".


I'm indigenous to this land dopey .... I was born here.


First Peoples would be OK .... but there are none left ..... just as there are no British Capts, Governors, Troops or convicts left...

just descendants thereof.

You are just a guilt ridden over emotive SJW wanker.
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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #123 - Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:57pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:45pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 10:09pm:
Then we can all be treated equally, eh?  No more preferential treatment for special interest groups and minorities..... you know who I mean...


certainly, but the huge gap based on skin colour will need to be closed.


So my land claim for all that land up north of NSW plus plenty more running all the way down and up into Queensland will succeed?

OK.......

There is a gap created by social (mis)behaviour and personal choices such as wanting to do things your own way without 'interference' and living in the Ning Nang Nong...

The statistics show that - as well as showing the reality that some who change their ways succeed mightily and more.... same as everyone else..... some get the run others don't.. and it can never be determined on the basis of sex, colour, language, religion or anything else if you are fair dinkum.... but ONLY on genuine circumstances and needs.

If I choose to live in the Ning Nang Nong and fish all day and fight all night instead of going to school and on and getting into a trade or profession or even moving somewhere where there is real work..... that is my choice.... but you don't believe in personal sovereignty to you?

That only counts when people choose to join a volunteer force to defend your country etc.. without which umbrella you would have no voice whatsoever, same as everyone else.. told ya the Cheers are not Robinson Crusoe's Black Man Friday here... we are all - most of us - some Black Man Friday ..... every man is another man's Ni
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er in some way or another unless he's an ivory tower dweller ..... Free State of Jones - bad movie but hell......
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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #124 - Dec 22nd, 2022 at 1:01pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:41pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:35pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:21pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 6:29pm:
NAIDOC week is 2-9 July 2023.  What is the significance of those dates in the Aboriginal calendar?

Nothing. There is no Aboriginal calendar and with the possible exception of Aborigines in Sydney Cove, 26 January 1788 went COMPLETELY unremarked.

Getting agitated by that date is pure hate and resentment and toxic self pity - even though almost all Aborigines today have significant European settler or other immigrant blood. How do they reconcile their hearts with that immense hate for their own forebears?

It is a toxic stance and it is cultivated by toxic  Europeans with zero Aboriginality, like Thick-as Gino, Tut-tutsie Bbwian, Poison Pill of Perth et al.


I wonder what Pearson's and Price's views (abos - I can't say blacks, because Price looks white -  on opposing sides of the voice debate)  are on such things as the date, and Mt Warning.


Maybe if you've got a seeing eye dog and a white stick ...

https://www.clp.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/jacinta-price.jpg


Priceless ...but wouldn't you feel silly saying she is "black"?




Not at all - she doesn't mind at all... it's her hallmark and credential for speaking out..... along with direct contact with the real victims of crimes there..... why would I feel silly any more than her calling me White?  Wink 

We prefer the term Australian......................................... Wink
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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #125 - Dec 22nd, 2022 at 1:12pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:53pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:39am:
Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:03am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 8:41pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 6:54pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 9:43am:
Belgarion wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 9:14am:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 9:11am:
Belgarion wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 9:00am:
If people want to work on a public holiday then that's entirely up to them. No need to bring the anti-Australian politics of the woke bedwetters  into it.


Explain how wanting to change a symbolic date makes someone anti-Australian....The debate comes up every Jan 26, it won't go away because of your right wing leanings....Put forward a valid argument against changing the date instead of arguing irellivant bullshit???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How about a valid argument as to why it should be changed? But there isn't one, is there?


The main Argument is that having the date celebrate the day the first nations people were colonized and Australia was declared British land....This does not sit well with many Australian's who have no link too British ancesstory....Why not change the date so all Australian's can celebrate if they wish....Patriotism is bullshit anyway IMO???

Here are some reasons if you actually give a crap???

https://www.australianethical.com.au/blog/australia-day-why-we-need-to-change-th...

https://crescentwealth.com.au/articles/8-reasons-why-the-date-for-australia-day-...

https://www.news.com.au/national/why-australia-day-has-to-change-from-january-26...

Now explain how wanting to change a symbolic date makes someone anti-Australian???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Here's where your stupidity comes to the fore..

there never were any nations or a nation of one group here.

You think in a fantasy .. a delusion.


Speaking of stupidity,  wtf has your rant to do with anything? No one said there was a rant. Just more rabid nonsense so you can sprout your stupidity


Spec Savers? the response was to the "first nations" BS.

Much like your BS.


So your purile argument is calling Aboriginal and Torris Straight people "First Nation" is incorrect because Australia was not a nation....Perhaps first inhabitants would be more acceptable to your pathetic criticism....Australia was declared Terra nullius by the British!!!

Quote:
Terra nullius is a Latin expression meaning "nobody's land". It was a principle sometimes used in international law to justify claims that territory may be acquired by a state's occupation of it.


Aboriginal people were not even counted in the Census untill after 1967....Typical bullshit no response to the argument from a rabid racist....Aboriginal peole were here first and treated abohrently by the British and Colonials....Australia has nothing to be proud of with it's treatment of it's indiginous population!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



And neither did any colonising/conquering groups or nations throughout the human history of the globe. But those countries grew & changed with the times.

The Indonesians are still committing genocide & oppressing the Melanesians of West Papua.

Aboriginals may have been here first but they had no discernable nation/s or civilization to the British observers at the time. They were scattered tribal groups of people.

They had no notion of "nation" or "ownership".


I'm indigenous to this land dopey .... I was born here.


First Peoples would be OK .... but there are none left ..... just as there are no British Capts, Governors, Troops or convicts left...

just descendants thereof.

You are just a guilt ridden over emotive SJW wanker.


You are not a decendant of the "First Nation" people you cock sucker....You are a racist right wing wanker with no credability and no argument....Using the argument that other people were treated worse shows what a racist dickhead you are....If history doesn't matter why do you cling to Mother f@cking England you closet POME bastard???

Huh Huh Huh
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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #126 - Dec 22nd, 2022 at 1:30pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 1:12pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:53pm:
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And neither did any colonising/conquering groups or nations throughout the human history of the globe. But those countries grew & changed with the times.

The Indonesians are still committing genocide & oppressing the Melanesians of West Papua.

Aboriginals may have been here first but they had no discernable nation/s or civilization to the British observers at the time. They were scattered tribal groups of people.

They had no notion of "nation" or "ownership".


I'm indigenous to this land dopey .... I was born here.


First Peoples would be OK .... but there are none left ..... just as there are no British Capts, Governors, Troops or convicts left...

just descendants thereof.

You are just a guilt ridden over emotive SJW wanker.


You are not a decendant of the "First Nation" people you cock sucker....You are a racist right wing wanker with no credability and no argument....Using the argument that other people were treated worse shows what a racist dickhead you are....If history doesn't matter why do you cling to Mother f@cking England you closet POME bastard???

Huh Huh Huh


I'm Indigenous going back to the 1850's.... so were my parents and grandparents Indigenous, and even great-grandparents... all born here...

Where's my Voice and all my land rights and all the rest of it.... as for POME - my DNA says Swedish/Danish/Scottish/Irish/Welsh/Cornish/European Jewish/English........ not much POME in there, lad... and my olive skin, same as my father's, speaks volumes methinks... dash of the tar in there somewhere - I could make a better claim than Pascoe... my grandmother once said to me - when I was playing up - that I was black.... dear god... the trauma ....   Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin ... I identify as a tribe of One.... own language and all - a Nation in truth!!!
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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #127 - Dec 22nd, 2022 at 1:31pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 1:12pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:53pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:39am:
Gnads wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 10:03am:
John Smith wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 8:41pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 6:54pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 9:43am:
Belgarion wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 9:14am:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 9:11am:
Belgarion wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 9:00am:
If people want to work on a public holiday then that's entirely up to them. No need to bring the anti-Australian politics of the woke bedwetters  into it.


Explain how wanting to change a symbolic date makes someone anti-Australian....The debate comes up every Jan 26, it won't go away because of your right wing leanings....Put forward a valid argument against changing the date instead of arguing irellivant bullshit???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How about a valid argument as to why it should be changed? But there isn't one, is there?


The main Argument is that having the date celebrate the day the first nations people were colonized and Australia was declared British land....This does not sit well with many Australian's who have no link too British ancesstory....Why not change the date so all Australian's can celebrate if they wish....Patriotism is bullshit anyway IMO???

Here are some reasons if you actually give a crap???

https://www.australianethical.com.au/blog/australia-day-why-we-need-to-change-th...

https://crescentwealth.com.au/articles/8-reasons-why-the-date-for-australia-day-...

https://www.news.com.au/national/why-australia-day-has-to-change-from-january-26...

Now explain how wanting to change a symbolic date makes someone anti-Australian???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Here's where your stupidity comes to the fore..

there never were any nations or a nation of one group here.

You think in a fantasy .. a delusion.


Speaking of stupidity,  wtf has your rant to do with anything? No one said there was a rant. Just more rabid nonsense so you can sprout your stupidity


Spec Savers? the response was to the "first nations" BS.

Much like your BS.


So your purile argument is calling Aboriginal and Torris Straight people "First Nation" is incorrect because Australia was not a nation....Perhaps first inhabitants would be more acceptable to your pathetic criticism....Australia was declared Terra nullius by the British!!!

Quote:
Terra nullius is a Latin expression meaning "nobody's land". It was a principle sometimes used in international law to justify claims that territory may be acquired by a state's occupation of it.


Aboriginal people were not even counted in the Census untill after 1967....Typical bullshit no response to the argument from a rabid racist....Aboriginal peole were here first and treated abohrently by the British and Colonials....Australia has nothing to be proud of with it's treatment of it's indiginous population!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



And neither did any colonising/conquering groups or nations throughout the human history of the globe. But those countries grew & changed with the times.

The Indonesians are still committing genocide & oppressing the Melanesians of West Papua.

Aboriginals may have been here first but they had no discernable nation/s or civilization to the British observers at the time. They were scattered tribal groups of people.

They had no notion of "nation" or "ownership".


I'm indigenous to this land dopey .... I was born here.


First Peoples would be OK .... but there are none left ..... just as there are no British Capts, Governors, Troops or convicts left...

just descendants thereof.

You are just a guilt ridden over emotive SJW wanker.


You are not a decendant of the "First Nation" people you cock sucker....You are a racist right wing wanker with no credability and no argument....Using the argument that other people were treated worse shows what a racist dickhead you are....If history doesn't matter why do you cling to Mother f@cking England you closet POME bastard???

Huh Huh Huh


How the phukk would you know shyte for brains?

rabbit, rabbit, rabbit BS that's all you do ...

who's clinging to Mother England dickwad?

History shows that ever since man walked out of Africa they have been taking over, colonising others country & expanding across the globe.

Do you think the Australian continent should have been left in isolation?

That no one would have taken possession of it had the British not?

Pull ya head in ya sand groper nong.
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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #128 - Dec 22nd, 2022 at 1:33pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:35pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:21pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 6:29pm:
NAIDOC week is 2-9 July 2023.  What is the significance of those dates in the Aboriginal calendar?

Nothing. There is no Aboriginal calendar and with the possible exception of Aborigines in Sydney Cove, 26 January 1788 went COMPLETELY unremarked.

Getting agitated by that date is pure hate and resentment and toxic self pity - even though almost all Aborigines today have significant European settler or other immigrant blood. How do they reconcile their hearts with that immense hate for their own forebears?

It is a toxic stance and it is cultivated by toxic  Europeans with zero Aboriginality, like Thick-as Gino, Tut-tutsie Bbwian, Poison Pill of Perth et al.


I wonder what Pearson's and Price's views (abos - I can't say blacks, because Price looks white -  on opposing sides of the voice debate)  are on such things as the date, and Mt Warning.


Maybe if you've got a seeing eye dog and a white stick ...

https://www.clp.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/jacinta-price.jpg



Beat me to it Graps

Pearson is a creamy too.
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Reply #129 - Dec 22nd, 2022 at 1:36pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:41pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:35pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:21pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 6:29pm:
NAIDOC week is 2-9 July 2023.  What is the significance of those dates in the Aboriginal calendar?

Nothing. There is no Aboriginal calendar and with the possible exception of Aborigines in Sydney Cove, 26 January 1788 went COMPLETELY unremarked.

Getting agitated by that date is pure hate and resentment and toxic self pity - even though almost all Aborigines today have significant European settler or other immigrant blood. How do they reconcile their hearts with that immense hate for their own forebears?

It is a toxic stance and it is cultivated by toxic  Europeans with zero Aboriginality, like Thick-as Gino, Tut-tutsie Bbwian, Poison Pill of Perth et al.


I wonder what Pearson's and Price's views (abos - I can't say blacks, because Price looks white -  on opposing sides of the voice debate)  are on such things as the date, and Mt Warning.


Maybe if you've got a seeing eye dog and a white stick ...

https://www.clp.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/jacinta-price.jpg


Priceless ...but wouldn't you feel silly saying she is "black"?



There are white aboriginals without a feature of Aboriginality that say they are black.

Price has a better chance by a country mile.

Here she is with her mother Bess.
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Reply #130 - Dec 22nd, 2022 at 1:38pm
 
"You are not a decendant of the "First Nation" people you cock sucker....You are a racist right wing wanker with no credability and no argument....Using the argument that other people were treated worse shows what a racist dickhead you are....If history doesn't matter why do you cling to Mother f@cking England you closet POME bastard???"

Popcorn,Igor - a little early for the beer... but this space needs watching... he's losing it severely... you can always tell when they've lost the argument... like explaining to a crowd of Cheers that they are not Owners of that land up there but can carry out traditional things on non-FREEHOLD (nobody owns it)land ... they'd soon resort to violence... just the way they are...

Bet if they were under siege from them pesky Indonesians in a Genocide like West Papuans, they'd be cheering to see the Australian flag.... bloody hypocrites..... line up for the freebies any time....

Downe at Ye Olde Dole Office:-

"Aren't you Ngunnawalda Sugarson?"

"Nah - that's me cousin Gunnawalda Sugarson.. different, ye know..."

"OK - next!  Hey - aren't you Mohamed Alkabar?"

"Nah - that's me cousin, Mohammed Albakar - we're different....."

"OK - NEXT!!  Hey - aren't you John Smith?"

"Nah - that's me cousin John Smith..... we're different... look the same though."

"Get outta here, Smith!  That's ten times this week.... NEXT....."
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Prior to 1888, 26 January was very much a New South Wales affair, as each of the colonies had its own commemoration for its founding. In Tasmania, Regatta Day occurred initially in December to mark the anniversary of the landing of Abel Tasman.[34] South Australia celebrated Proclamation Day on 28 December. Western Australia had its own Foundation Day (now Western Australia Day) on 1 June.[25]

The decision to mark the occasion of the First Fleet’s arrival in 1788 at Sydney Cove and Captain Arthur Phillip’s proclamation of British sovereignty over the eastern continent on 26 January was first made outside NSW by the Australian Natives' Association (ANA), a group of white "native-born" middle-class men formed in Victoria in 1871.[35] They dubbed the day "ANA Day".[5]

In 1888, all colonial capitals except Adelaide celebrated "Anniversary Day". In 1910, South Australia adopted 26 January as "Foundation Day",[25] to replace another holiday known as Accession Day, which had been held on 22 January to mark the accession to the throne of King Edward VII, who died in May 1910.[36]

The first Australia Day was established in response to Australia's involvement in World War I. In 1915, Ellen "Ellie" Wharton Kirke MBE, née Clements, mother of four servicemen, thought up the idea of a national day, with the specific aim of raising funds for wounded soldiers,[37] and the term was coined to stir up patriotic feelings.[38][36] In 1915 a committee to celebrate Australia Day was formed, and the date chosen was 30 July,[39] on which many fund-raising efforts were run to support the war effort.[40] It was also held in July in subsequent years of World War I: on 28 July 1916,[40] 27 July 1917,[41] and 26 July 1918.[42]

The idea of a national day to be celebrated on 26 January was slow to catch on, partly because of competition with Anzac Day.[43] Victoria adopted 26 January as Australia Day in 1931,[28] and by 1935, all states of Australia were celebrating 26 January as Australia Day (although it was still known as Anniversary Day in New South Wales).[25] The name "Foundation Day" persisted in local usage.[44]


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1936–1960s
Sesquicentenary parade in Sydney, 26 January 1938

The 150th anniversary of British settlement in Australia in 1938 was widely celebrated. Preparations began in 1936 with the formation of a Celebrations Council. In that year, New South Wales was the only state to abandon the traditional long weekend, and the annual Anniversary Day public holiday was held on the anniversary day – Wednesday 26 January.[25]

The Commonwealth and state governments agreed to unify the celebrations on 26 January as "Australia Day" in 1946,[45] although the public holiday was instead taken on the Monday closest to the anniversary.[46]

Historian Ken Inglis wrote in 1967 that Australia Day was not celebrated publicly in Canberra at that time.[43]

1988: Bicentenary

In 1988, the celebration of 200 years since the arrival of the First Fleet was organised on a large scale as the Australian Bicentenary, with many significant events taking place in all major cities.[25] Over 2.5 million people attended the event in Sydney.[28] These included street parties, concerts, including performances on the steps and forecourt of the Sydney Opera House and at many other public venues, art and literary competitions, historic re-enactments, and the opening of the Powerhouse Museum at its new location. A re-enactment of the arrival of the First Fleet took place in Sydney Harbour, with ships that had sailed from Portsmouth a year earlier taking part.[25][28]

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Everybody likes to talk about Australia Day as if it has always been set in stone.  It hasn't.  It has only existed as a National Holiday since 1988.  How about we talk realistically about it, instead of all the emotional appeals to national pride we have seen, or is that too hard for some here?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Prior to 1888, 26 January was very much a New South Wales affair, as each of the colonies had its own commemoration for its founding. In Tasmania, Regatta Day occurred initially in December to mark the anniversary of the landing of Abel Tasman.[34] South Australia celebrated Proclamation Day on 28 December. Western Australia had its own Foundation Day (now Western Australia Day) on 1 June.[25]

The decision to mark the occasion of the First Fleet’s arrival in 1788 at Sydney Cove and Captain Arthur Phillip’s proclamation of British sovereignty over the eastern continent on 26 January was first made outside NSW by the Australian Natives' Association (ANA), a group of white "native-born" middle-class men formed in Victoria in 1871.[35] They dubbed the day "ANA Day".[5]

In 1888, all colonial capitals except Adelaide celebrated "Anniversary Day". In 1910, South Australia adopted 26 January as "Foundation Day",[25] to replace another holiday known as Accession Day, which had been held on 22 January to mark the accession to the throne of King Edward VII, who died in May 1910.[36]

The first Australia Day was established in response to Australia's involvement in World War I. In 1915, Ellen "Ellie" Wharton Kirke MBE, née Clements, mother of four servicemen, thought up the idea of a national day, with the specific aim of raising funds for wounded soldiers,[37] and the term was coined to stir up patriotic feelings.[38][36] In 1915 a committee to celebrate Australia Day was formed, and the date chosen was 30 July,[39] on which many fund-raising efforts were run to support the war effort.[40] It was also held in July in subsequent years of World War I: on 28 July 1916,[40] 27 July 1917,[41] and 26 July 1918.[42]

The idea of a national day to be celebrated on 26 January was slow to catch on, partly because of competition with Anzac Day.[43] Victoria adopted 26 January as Australia Day in 1931,[28] and by 1935, all states of Australia were celebrating 26 January as Australia Day (although it was still known as Anniversary Day in New South Wales).[25] The name "Foundation Day" persisted in local usage.[44]


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Sesquicentenary parade in Sydney, 26 January 1938

The 150th anniversary of British settlement in Australia in 1938 was widely celebrated. Preparations began in 1936 with the formation of a Celebrations Council. In that year, New South Wales was the only state to abandon the traditional long weekend, and the annual Anniversary Day public holiday was held on the anniversary day – Wednesday 26 January.[25]

The Commonwealth and state governments agreed to unify the celebrations on 26 January as "Australia Day" in 1946,[45] although the public holiday was instead taken on the Monday closest to the anniversary.[46]

Historian Ken Inglis wrote in 1967 that Australia Day was not celebrated publicly in Canberra at that time.[43]

1988: Bicentenary

In 1988, the celebration of 200 years since the arrival of the First Fleet was organised on a large scale as the Australian Bicentenary, with many significant events taking place in all major cities.[25] Over 2.5 million people attended the event in Sydney.[28] These included street parties, concerts, including performances on the steps and forecourt of the Sydney Opera House and at many other public venues, art and literary competitions, historic re-enactments, and the opening of the Powerhouse Museum at its new location. A re-enactment of the arrival of the First Fleet took place in Sydney Harbour, with ships that had sailed from Portsmouth a year earlier taking part.[25][28]

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Everybody likes to talk about Australia Day as if it has always been set in stone.  It hasn't.  It has only existed as a National Holiday since 1988.  How about we talk realistically about it, instead of all the emotional appears to national pride we have seen, or is that too hard for some here?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



It's a national day for all Australians to celebrate our country first & foremost.

It's not a sorry day or an Invasion day.

Its a national holiday.
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Brian Ross wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 1:45pm:
Everybody likes to talk about Australia Day as if it has always been set in stone.  It hasn't.  It has only existed as a National Holiday since 1988.  How about we talk realistically about it, instead of all the emotional appears to national pride we have seen, or is that too hard for some here?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Well - that don't mean nothin' - it's been around long enough to become ..... (rolling thunder in the distance)..... TRADITIONAL............  you want your culcha respected - you respect our Culture... that of the majority now - or those that want to hate on it can pack their bags...
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thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 22nd, 2022 at 12:45pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 10:09pm:
Then we can all be treated equally, eh?  No more preferential treatment for special interest groups and minorities..... you know who I mean...


certainly, but the huge gap based on skin colour will need to be closed.


There is no gap "based" on skin colour.

creating another myth?
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