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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #150 - Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 5:28pm

"The obsolete concept of 'national sovereignty' prevented the 'establishment of rules accepted by all'.

Rogue states - perhaps then it is time for Intervention ...... the only thing that prevents Intervention is the very concept of national sovereignty..... and yet you say the Abos are going to the UN to demand all the land.... a perfect argument for rejecting this ridiculous ''voice' ....

There will be no voice and no land grab..... but if your kind keep it up, there may well be that civil war I predicted pre-Albo.... and the blood will be on your hands for promoting this insanity.

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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #151 - Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 6:44pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 4:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 4:39pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 9:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 8:50pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 8:44pm:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2008/02/26/how-to-start-your-own-country-in-four-easy-...

"You must have a defined territory.
They changed territory every time they won or lost a fight.

You must have a permanent population.
They wandered from place to place.

You must have a government.
There was no government.

Your government must be capable of interacting with other states.
They did - with nulla-nullas and spears... until the White Man put a stop to it on Civilisation Day.
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Who's rules are they crappler? White Man's?
You moron Cheesy

No - international rules accepted by all... even the mindless WOPs with the engine roaring and the blown clutch and gearbox in the brain... engine's running but the wheels aren't spinning... you know the type...

so white mans rules Roll Eyes

The UN ain't majority White.... these were promulgated in around 1936 and then accepted later by the UN... had to put a stop to Musso you see...

The UN is a figure head for the wishes of white man

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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85220 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday Reply #152 - Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 7:22pm You no loike-a da day foh Australia, myte - you pack-a da bags! Take-a da bloodeh whingin' Pakis an' stuff with ya ... plenty room on-a dat reverse-a boats ... whassa madda you? It's a nice-a place!!
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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #153 - Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 7:29pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 7:22pm:

You no loike-a da day foh Australia, myte - you pack-a da bags! Take-a da bloodeh whingin' Pakis an' stuff with ya ... plenty room on-a dat reverse-a boats ... whassa madda you? It's a nice-a place!!

Still the old white male victim ehhh Roll Eyes

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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #154 - Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 9:04pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 6:44pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 4:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 4:39pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 9:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 8:50pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 8:44pm:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2008/02/26/how-to-start-your-own-country-in-four-easy-...

"You must have a defined territory.
They changed territory every time they won or lost a fight.

You must have a permanent population.
They wandered from place to place.

You must have a government.
There was no government.

Your government must be capable of interacting with other states.
They did - with nulla-nullas and spears... until the White Man put a stop to it on Civilisation Day.
"

Who's rules are they crappler? White Man's?
You moron Cheesy

No - international rules accepted by all... even the mindless WOPs with the engine roaring and the blown clutch and gearbox in the brain... engine's running but the wheels aren't spinning... you know the type...

so white mans rules Roll Eyes

The UN ain't majority White.... these were promulgated in around 1936 and then accepted later by the UN... had to put a stop to Musso you see...

The UN is a figure head for the wishes of white man

You are a white man, dicko.
Are you denouncing yourself, moron??

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59186 Here Gender:	Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday Reply #155 - Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 9:59pm Workers should understand that things like this undermine the public holiday. If workers want to prove that it isn't really a public holiday the next step will be to remove it.
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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #156 - Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 10:27pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 9:59pm:

Workers should understand that things like this undermine the public holiday.

If workers want to prove that it isn't really a public holiday the next step will be to remove it.

Right on, Bro - it's all well and good to get on board with some fantasy idea of changing society to suit some purported wrong - it's another to see that used as the avenue to create a further wrong.

As Rastus Xavier said - "I am more than happy for my society to give me my rights .... but under no circumstances am I prepared to trade some rights for wrongs as decreed by those in power."

**(Rastus Xavier is one of my pseudonyms or noms-de-plume ....having survived the Haitian tsunami disaster by eating rats, and then having become a professor in the United States.... you'll get there one day).... ye of limited experience in life....love yez all - now let us all strive for the best good together....

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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #157 - Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 10:56pm

The "additional" public holidays that replace Christmas days and
New Year's day that fall on Saturdays and/or Sundays need to be
abolished.

Leading Australian economist Stephen Koukoulas estimates that
each of these additional days off cost Australia's economy close
to $2 billion in lost productivity.

During a period of economic downturn, can we really afford this
relative luxury?

And as a lifelong atheist, I have to ask why is it that a religious
celebration will stop me shopping on Sunday 25th December or
Good Friday 7th April next year? Conversely, why is it that
there's no public holiday in order for atheists to celebrate?

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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #158 - Dec 24^th, 2022 at 12:28am

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 10:56pm:

The "additional" public holidays that replace Christmas days and
New Year's day that fall on Saturdays and/or Sundays need to be
abolished.

Leading Australian economist Stephen Koukoulas estimates that
each of these additional days off cost Australia's economy close
to $2 billion in lost productivity.

During a period of economic downturn, can we really afford this
relative luxury?

And as a lifelong atheist, I have to ask why is it that a religious
celebration will stop me shopping on Sunday 25th December or
Good Friday 7th April next year? Conversely, why is it that
there's no public holiday in order for atheists to celebrate?

Stephen WHO? It's a normal cost of doing business HERE - Twerp - if you can't handle it - there's the door.... but we're not going to be subjugated down to the same level as your surname indicates in this world - economically or otherwise.... Greek peasants begging for a day's work.

Not In MY Country!

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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #159 - Dec 24^th, 2022 at 8:58am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 5:28pm:

"The obsolete concept of 'national sovereignty' prevented the 'establishment of rules accepted by all'.

Rogue states - perhaps then it is time for Intervention ...... the only thing that prevents Intervention is the very concept of national sovereignty.....

"Rogue states" exist because there is no effective international law, and hence states with rogue governments like Iran, Myanmar, and Afghanistan exist because national sovereignty is supreme, and they are beyond the reach of international law supported by the UN.

But now you are going to use the idea of "intervention", to argue against intervention by the Oz government to close the gap in Oz. Let's read on:

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and yet you say the Abos are going to the UN to demand all the land.... a perfect argument for rejecting this ridiculous ''voice' ....

I'm not in favour of abos going to the UN to demand land, legal scholars like Megan Davis have misled them into that course of action; though I would be in favour of them going to the UN to sue the Oz government for not guaranteeing employment for all Australians (as in Article 23, UNUDHR).

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There will be no voice and no land grab..... but if your kind keep it up, there may well be that civil war I predicted pre-Albo.... and the blood will be on your hands for promoting this insanity.

My kind?

Unlike you, I believe in effective international law, to protect the "rights" delineated in the UNUDHR - including the right to work with secure, adequate income.

And people like Megan Davis, with delusional ideas re "rights" to land - and IPA goon Price, with delusional ideas about free markets being the path to collective prosperity - are part of the problem.

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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #160 - Dec 24^th, 2022 at 11:13am

Frank wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 9:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 6:44pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 4:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 4:39pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 9:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 8:50pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 8:44pm:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2008/02/26/how-to-start-your-own-country-in-four-easy-...

"You must have a defined territory.
They changed territory every time they won or lost a fight.

You must have a permanent population.
They wandered from place to place.

You must have a government.
There was no government.

Your government must be capable of interacting with other states.
They did - with nulla-nullas and spears... until the White Man put a stop to it on Civilisation Day.
"

Who's rules are they crappler? White Man's?
You moron Cheesy

No - international rules accepted by all... even the mindless WOPs with the engine roaring and the blown clutch and gearbox in the brain... engine's running but the wheels aren't spinning... you know the type...

so white mans rules Roll Eyes

The UN ain't majority White.... these were promulgated in around 1936 and then accepted later by the UN... had to put a stop to Musso you see...

The UN is a figure head for the wishes of white man

You are a white man, dicko.
Are you denouncing yourself, moron??

So my being white means I have to play dumb? Cheesy

No thanks, I'll leave that to you.

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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #161 - Dec 24^th, 2022 at 11:15am

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 10:56pm:

The "additional" public holidays that replace Christmas days and
New Year's day that fall on Saturdays and/or Sundays need to be
abolished.

Leading Australian economist Stephen Koukoulas estimates that
each of these additional days off cost Australia's economy close
to $2 billion in lost productivity.

During a period of economic downturn, can we really afford this
relative luxury?

And as a lifelong atheist, I have to ask why is it that a religious
celebration will stop me shopping on Sunday 25th December or
Good Friday 7th April next year? Conversely, why is it that
there's no public holiday in order for atheists to celebrate?

To most people these days Christmas isn't about religion any more, it's about family.
No need to ban the holiday, no one is making you go to church. You can make the 25th your atheist day instead

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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #162 - Dec 24^th, 2022 at 11:37am

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 10:56pm:

The "additional" public holidays that replace Christmas days and
New Year's day that fall on Saturdays and/or Sundays need to be
abolished.

Leading Australian economist Stephen Koukoulas estimates that
each of these additional days off cost Australia's economy close
to $2 billion in lost productivity.

During a period of economic downturn, can we really afford this
relative luxury?

And as a lifelong atheist, I have to ask why is it that a religious
celebration will stop me shopping on Sunday 25th December or
Good Friday 7th April next year? Conversely, why is it that
there's no public holiday in order for atheists to celebrate?

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Leading Australian economist Stephen Koukoulas estimates that
each of these additional days off cost Australia's economy close
to $2 billion in lost productivity.

The easy answer is BS.

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Leading Australian economist Stephen Koukoulas

Also most likely more BS.

We likely have a few hundred who claim this position and most are very likely not in the top 5,000.

Seems he has a background including giving poor advice to a former prime Minister.

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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #163 - Dec 24^th, 2022 at 11:42am

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2022 at 10:56pm:

The "additional" public holidays that replace Christmas days and
New Year's day that fall on Saturdays and/or Sundays need to be
abolished.

Leading Australian economist Stephen Koukoulas estimates that
each of these additional days off cost Australia's economy close
to $2 billion in lost productivity.

During a period of economic downturn, can we really afford this
relative luxury?

And as a lifelong atheist, I have to ask why is it that a religious
celebration will stop me shopping on Sunday 25th December or
Good Friday 7th April next year? Conversely, why is it that
there's no public holiday in order for atheists to celebrate?

Your atheism is a pose against Christianity, which is a lot older than your atheism and has formed your culture, including your atheism.
It is something shared for millennia and its red letter days allow pause to savour that shared humanity, age-old continuity of culture.

You can shop and be petty any other day.

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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #164 - Dec 24^th, 2022 at 11:45am

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Conversely, why is it that there's no public holiday in order for atheists to celebrate?

They all take the allotted Public holidays and celebrate it as they wish according to their belief or lack of. Feel free to celebrate Mabon the Autumn equinox for the pagans at Easter but remember to set some traps for those pesky rabbits with the chocolate eggs.

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