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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #60 - Dec 21st, 2022 at 12:20pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 11:22am:
As the date represents the decleration that Australia is now a colony of Mother England, don't you accept that our first Australian's and immigrants from other countries do not feel the date is appropriate....The date is symbolic and means nothing too me!!!

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It is insecure, resentful and mindless wankers who always look to problematise every aspect of life, history, customs, landmarks, red letter days, everything. 

"Oh, it's symbolic!", they say idiotically, as if WANTING TO MOVE IT wasn't just as symbolic, or even more so.  What does MOVING Australia Day symbolise for you, resentful old duffer?  What does your resentment symbolise?   

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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #61 - Dec 21st, 2022 at 12:37pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 12:20pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 11:22am:
As the date represents the decleration that Australia is now a colony of Mother England, don't you accept that our first Australian's and immigrants from other countries do not feel the date is appropriate....The date is symbolic and means nothing too me!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley



It is insecure, resentful and mindless wankers who always look to problematise every aspect of life, history, customs, landmarks, red letter days, everything. 

"Oh, it's symbolic!", they say idiotically, as if WANTING TO MOVE IT wasn't just as symbolic, or even more so.  What does MOVING Australia Day symbolise for you, resentful old duffer?  What does your resentment symbolise?   



I don't care if the date is moved but I can accept the argument made by those who feel the date does not represent them....If history customs and landmarks matter then why should Aboriginal people celebrate English settlement....Out of respect for their ancestors they have a right to object to the date they were invaded....Symbolism matters or you would not object to the date being moved Fwank....Olay!!!

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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #62 - Dec 21st, 2022 at 12:43pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 12:37pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 12:20pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 11:22am:
As the date represents the decleration that Australia is now a colony of Mother England, don't you accept that our first Australian's and immigrants from other countries do not feel the date is appropriate....The date is symbolic and means nothing too me!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley



It is insecure, resentful and mindless wankers who always look to problematise every aspect of life, history, customs, landmarks, red letter days, everything. 

"Oh, it's symbolic!", they say idiotically, as if WANTING TO MOVE IT wasn't just as symbolic, or even more so.  What does MOVING Australia Day symbolise for you, resentful old duffer?  What does your resentment symbolise?   



I don't care if the date is moved but I can accept the argument made by those who feel the date does not represent them....If history customs and landmarks matter then why should Aboriginal people celebrate English settlement....Out of respect for their ancestors they have a right to object to the date they were invaded....Symbolism matters or you would not object to the date being moved Fwank....Olay!!!

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They have (more than) plenty of days/weeks/months that do represent them.  Way more than the rest of us have.   No-one is asking them to celebrate Australia Day but if we want to be honest about it, if the Dutch or Spanish had settled here instead of the Brits they wouldn't even be here to object.

Let them have their days and let the rest of Australia celebrate being Australian.
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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #63 - Dec 21st, 2022 at 12:57pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 12:37pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 12:20pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 11:22am:
As the date represents the decleration that Australia is now a colony of Mother England, don't you accept that our first Australian's and immigrants from other countries do not feel the date is appropriate....The date is symbolic and means nothing too me!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley



It is insecure, resentful and mindless wankers who always look to problematise every aspect of life, history, customs, landmarks, red letter days, everything. 

"Oh, it's symbolic!", they say idiotically, as if WANTING TO MOVE IT wasn't just as symbolic, or even more so.  What does MOVING Australia Day symbolise for you, resentful old duffer?  What does your resentment symbolise?   



I don't care if the date is moved but I can accept the argument made by those who feel the date does not represent them....If history customs and landmarks matter then why should Aboriginal people celebrate English settlement....Out of respect for their ancestors they have a right to object to the date they were invaded....Symbolism matters or you would not object to the date being moved Fwank....Olay!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


It's your mindless point to say symbolism doesn't matter because to you personally it is meaningless. How much more self-centered and narcissistic can you get? And in what way are Aboriginal symbols are any more meaningful for an ignorant egocentric like you?

Are you by any chance Oirish like that other  po-faced duffer from Perth, Tut-tuttin Bbwian?


"Now, we have no symbolic life, and we are all badly in need of the symbolic life. Only the symbolic life can express the need of the soul - the daily need of the soul, mind you! And because people have no such thing, they can never step out of this mill - this awful, grinding, banal life in which they are 'nothing but.' ... Everything is banal, everything is 'nothing but'; and that is the reason why people are neurotic. " C.G. JUNG

https://carljungdepthpsychologysite.blog/2020/05/15/carl-jung-on-the-symbolic-li...
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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #64 - Dec 21st, 2022 at 12:58pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 12:37pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 12:20pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 11:22am:
As the date represents the decleration that Australia is now a colony of Mother England, don't you accept that our first Australian's and immigrants from other countries do not feel the date is appropriate....The date is symbolic and means nothing too me!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley



It is insecure, resentful and mindless wankers who always look to problematise every aspect of life, history, customs, landmarks, red letter days, everything. 

"Oh, it's symbolic!", they say idiotically, as if WANTING TO MOVE IT wasn't just as symbolic, or even more so.  What does MOVING Australia Day symbolise for you, resentful old duffer?  What does your resentment symbolise?   



I don't care if the date is moved but I can accept the argument made by those who feel the date does not represent them....If history customs and landmarks matter then why should Aboriginal people celebrate English settlement....Out of respect for their ancestors they have a right to object to the date they were invaded....Symbolism matters or you would not object to the date being moved Fwank....Olay!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


before Cook and for a long time after Aborigines raped murdered and ate children.

they still rape and murder children but as far as I know they have stopped eating them.

So that is some progress.

Now if they would just stop raping and murdering them
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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #65 - Dec 21st, 2022 at 1:14pm
 
Boris wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 12:58pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 12:37pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 12:20pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 11:22am:
As the date represents the decleration that Australia is now a colony of Mother England, don't you accept that our first Australian's and immigrants from other countries do not feel the date is appropriate....The date is symbolic and means nothing too me!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley



It is insecure, resentful and mindless wankers who always look to problematise every aspect of life, history, customs, landmarks, red letter days, everything. 

"Oh, it's symbolic!", they say idiotically, as if WANTING TO MOVE IT wasn't just as symbolic, or even more so.  What does MOVING Australia Day symbolise for you, resentful old duffer?  What does your resentment symbolise?   



I don't care if the date is moved but I can accept the argument made by those who feel the date does not represent them....If history customs and landmarks matter then why should Aboriginal people celebrate English settlement....Out of respect for their ancestors they have a right to object to the date they were invaded....Symbolism matters or you would not object to the date being moved Fwank....Olay!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


before Cook and for a long time after Aborigines raped murdered and ate children.

they still rape and murder children but as far as I know they have stopped eating them.

So that is some progress.

Now if they would just stop raping and murdering them


Do non-indigenous people rape and murder children, Boris?

I'm curious.
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Re: Opportunity To Ditch Australia Day Public Holiday
Reply #66 - Dec 21st, 2022 at 1:25pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 1:14pm:
before Cook and for a long time after Aborigines raped murdered and ate children.

they still rape and murder children but as far as I know they have stopped eating them.

So that is some progress.

Now if they would just stop raping and murdering them


Do non-indigenous people rape and murder children, Boris?

I'm curious. [/quote]

OK curious. They do of course but the statistics are vastly different - but due to your lack of intelligence I doubt if you understand those words.

Have a read and try to learn something - which I doubt is even possible.



Available data indicate that Indigenous people are 15 to 20 times more likely than non-Indigenous people to commit violent offences.

That is 1,500% to 2,000% more likely to commit violent offences.

So this is OK by you?


The consequences of child sexual abuse are horrifying:

Children have sexual diseases. Children under the age of 10 and as young as 4 are diagnosed with sexually transmitted diseases like gonorrhoea, chlamydia, syphilis and trichomoniasis [11].

Early exposure to pornography. Children as young as three have been exposed to pornographic material in their homes [12].

Teenage rape. Teenagers rape children, and older children rape very young children.

Higher vulnerability to illness later in life. The younger the child and the more frequent the abuse, the more likely they are to manifest physical symptoms later in life that hint at their trauma. It could be pelvic pain, stomach aches, chronic back pain or more-complex conditions such as autoimmune disease, asthma, psoriasis and type 2 diabetes. Experts call this 'somatisation': physical manifestations of psychological trauma. [13]


Selected statistics

15% Percentage of reported sexual offence incidents in Australia which go to court.

12% Reoffending rate for sexual offences. This percentage drops to less than 5% if offenders enter a special program.

30..50% Estimated proportion of sexually abused children in Australia where the perpetrator was 18 years or younger.

7 Times an Aboriginal child in 2009 is more likely to be sexually abused than a non-Aboriginal child. 700%

6 Times an Aboriginal woman in 2012 is more likely to be sexually abused than a non-Aboriginal woman. 600%

14% Proportion of children on South Australian Aṉangu, Pitjantjatjara and Yankunytjatjara (APY) Aboriginal lands who have been sexually abused. Same rate for all of SA population: 0.12%.

42% Proportion of perpetrators of sexual abuse towards Aboriginal women who are non-Aboriginal; who are Aboriginal: 41%; who are both (e.g. pack rapes): 17%

Source: Aboriginal sexual abuse - Creative Spirits, retrieved from https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/health/aboriginal-sexual-abuse
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Reply #67 - Dec 21st, 2022 at 1:29pm
 
Well - Abos kill and rape children and one another at a hugely higher rate than All Others... (note that careful choice of words).. out of one woman a week =52 a year roughly - around 48 are most likely to be Indigenous women... their kids are in care at a massively higher rate.. they occupy prisons at a huge rate.... their hospital and emergency care for injuries from violence are massively higher ......great figures for 3% of the population.

We really don't need to go over that time and time again to suit you dead-end canyon ideologues who want to challenge every figure without offering any ... it's the realities.... and there is not a shred of racism in it other than their objecting to being held to the same standards as everyone else.

Anyway - let's wait for the cry to ditch Australia Day proper now.... let the malcontents go to work for single time on a public holiday... we don't GAF ... as long as there is no demand that everyone abide by their stupidity.... same as all the other 'activist' insanities doing the rounds these days... you know who and what those are ...

Why hasn't Labor Albo jumped in and screamed about 'lowering hard won penalty rates' etc?  Because protection of worker rights is not high on the Labor agenda and falls a long way behind Aboism and Ethnicism and all the other -isms doing the rounds and killing this country, starting with all the lies about women = 'feminism' - that wolf in sheep's clothing devouring sanity in this country using laws and regulations to oppress the Others.

I TOLD YOU SO!!
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Reply #68 - Dec 21st, 2022 at 1:32pm
 
Boris wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 1:25pm:
OK curious. They do of course ...


Ah.
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Reply #69 - Dec 21st, 2022 at 1:34pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 1:29pm:
Well - Abos kill and rape children and one another at a hugely higher rate than All Others... (note that careful choice of words).. out of one woman a week =52 a year roughly - around 48 are most likely to be Indigenous women... their kids are in care at a massively higher rate.. they occupy prisons at a huge rate.... their hospital and emergency care for injuries from violence are massively higher ......great figures for 3% of the population.


Ah, I see.  You're not happy with their figures.

You seem to be fine with non-indigenous figures though.  Never seen you complain about those.

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Reply #70 - Dec 21st, 2022 at 1:47pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 1:34pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 1:29pm:
Well - Abos kill and rape children and one another at a hugely higher rate than All Others... (note that careful choice of words).. out of one woman a week =52 a year roughly - around 48 are most likely to be Indigenous women... their kids are in care at a massively higher rate.. they occupy prisons at a huge rate.... their hospital and emergency care for injuries from violence are massively higher ......great figures for 3% of the population.


Ah, I see.  You're not happy with their figures.

You seem to be fine with non-indigenous figures though.  Never seen you complain about those.


You never will, Greg.  Can you guess why?  Its a single word that begins with a capital "R".  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #71 - Dec 21st, 2022 at 1:52pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 9:26am:
Most Australian's want to change the date..



From your references -

https://councilmagazine.com.au/survey-shows-support-for-changing-australia-day-d
ate-in-melbourne/#:~:text=59.8%20per%20cent%20collectively%20support,the%20next%
20ten%2010%20years

This “survey” does not show how the question was articulated. But it is an inner city council. Wink

https://www.deakin.edu.au/research/research-news-and-publications/articles/60-of-australians-want-to-keep-australia-day-on-january-26,-but-those-under-35-disagree

“Our findings
Overall, 60% of our respondents want to continue celebrating “Australia Day” on January 26.”

https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/nearly-two-thirds-of-australians-65-say-january-26-should-be-known-as-australia-day-up-6-points-on-a-year-ago

“A special Roy Morgan survey into attitudes towards January 26 shows an increasing majority of 65% of Australians now say the date should be known as ‘Australia Day’ – up 6% points from a year ago compared to just over a third, 35% (down 6% points) that say it should be called ‘Invasion Day’ according to a special Roy Morgan SMS Poll conducted with an Australia-wide cross-section of 1,372 Australians aged 18+ on the weekend from Friday January 21 to Monday January 24, 2022.”

https://www.9news.com.au/national/australia-day-date-change-nearly-50-per-cent-of-australians-against-moving-date-from-january-26/97738c6f-7ec8-4f5f-b815-3b8adc73a539

“Nearly 50 per cent of people are opposed to changing the date of Australia Day from January 26.
Just 28 per cent of Australians want the date to be moved, according to a new Ipsos poll for Nine News and The Age/Sydney Morning Herald.”


One should learn to read beyond the headlines.
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Reply #72 - Dec 21st, 2022 at 2:11pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 1:34pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 1:29pm:
Well - Abos kill and rape children and one another at a hugely higher rate than All Others... (note that careful choice of words).. out of one woman a week =52 a year roughly - around 48 are most likely to be Indigenous women... their kids are in care at a massively higher rate.. they occupy prisons at a huge rate.... their hospital and emergency care for injuries from violence are massively higher ......great figures for 3% of the population.


Ah, I see.  You're not happy with their figures.

You seem to be fine with non-indigenous figures though.  Never seen you complain about those.



Yes - Ridiculous..... that's the word.... the issue under discussion here is ABOS and their activities.... not anyone else's ... and if you can't handle the official figures take it up with the relevant authorities, children.

I condemned Tarrant, I condemned the Lebo rape gang etc ... you pair really need to get out of those cellars more.  You're the ones fighting for ridiculous 'rights' for Cheers - I'm fighting for Cheers to do right to one another...... it's a type of cheese formerly known by another name...

Facts and figures don't give a damn what your paint job is....
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Reply #73 - Dec 21st, 2022 at 2:46pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 10:44am:
It's symbolic mate....Some people believe the date does not represent all Australian's and they have a valid argument....I don't give a toss and only care about the public holiday to drink some beer and play some pool with my mates....The argument won't go away because some red necks oppose it for some reason....Why do you want to celebrate the POMS bringing their convicts here??? Huh Huh Huh


So everyone who wants to keep Australia Day on 26 January is a redneck? https://www.mamamia.com.au/jacinta-price-on-australia-day/ And as for why I want to celebrate, my great great etc. grandfather and grandmother were two of those Poms.
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Reply #74 - Dec 21st, 2022 at 3:00pm
 
Belgarion wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 2:46pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 21st, 2022 at 10:44am:
It's symbolic mate....Some people believe the date does not represent all Australian's and they have a valid argument....I don't give a toss and only care about the public holiday to drink some beer and play some pool with my mates....The argument won't go away because some red necks oppose it for some reason....Why do you want to celebrate the POMS bringing their convicts here??? Huh Huh Huh


So everyone who wants to keep Australia Day on 26 January is a redneck? https://www.mamamia.com.au/jacinta-price-on-australia-day/ And as for why I want to celebrate, my great great etc. grandfather and grandmother were two of those Poms.


Good for you....Other people also have their own reasons....Stuff them hey???

Huh Huh Huh
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